So, for those who are unaware, FlatEarthDenial is a dishonest FE-er who constantly breaks the rules. I am arguing that he should be banned. Here are some oh his posts (and he has only 57 posts, so this is not negligible):
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But to be honest, even I sometimes think about castrating myself. If it weren't so painful, I think I would actually do it. I mean, sexuality gives us more suffering than pleasure. I mean, I have never been in love, but when my peers talk about love, they always talk only about how much it hurts. I just wanted to know what other males think about it.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1763180#msg1763180This is simply trouble making, right?
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Wow! I must say I expected to see this argument sooner.
First of all, plants you eat don't try to defend themselves. I mean, nobody eats nettles or roses, right?
Also, a meat-eater kills far more plants than a vegan. Animals we eat also have to be fed.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1762619#msg1762619Isn't this trolling? I mean, it is pretty obvious that he is misrepresenting veganism.
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You know what, I have better things to do than to debate with idiots whether it is OK to demand killing of about 5000 innocent animals in your lifetime. If you are so misled to think that you have an excuse to do so, you are simply willfully ignorant You have so many vegans on the Internet debunking all of your claims, yet you evidently choose not to even hear what they have to say. You just choose to perpetuate the same bullshit you've always been and fail to accept the burden of proof. I understand why we have to debate about the shape of the Earth on this forum. That's because there are still open questions about it. But you haven't opened any question about veganism. I simply think that I am wasting my time and that nothing could ever change your mind.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1762828#msg1762828This is emotionally abusing meat-eaters, and nothing else. He made no rational argument.
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Celestial objects near the horizon are apparently magnified by the atmosphere, if that is what you ask. That's not unfeasible as it might seem at first. It happens every time you see a mirage. The light goes through multiple refractions caused by the different air density and different temperatures. And the different light rays go at a slightly different angle, but after lots of refractions, they can make the object appear much bigger than it actually is, but preserving the shape. The constant speed of the Sun can be explained in the same way.
But such things really sometimes make me doubt the FET myself. You should notice that it is impossible to predict those paths of light rays, yet they should somehow always cancel the perspective effect of celestial objects very far from us getting smaller and smaller. Why doesn't it make the things look even smaller? I mean, the light rays from those celestial bodies sometimes enter the atmosphere from a very different angle (some constellations are very big), so shouldn't we expect them to go at the very different paths (sometimes getting closer instead of farther from each other)? Why does it seem to preserve the shapes of the Sun, the Moon, and even the constellations (when other mirages mostly don't preserve the shapes)?
This is similar to the RE-ers claiming that the Sun and the Moon appear exactly the same size because of an enormous coincidence.
But I guess there might be some law of nature we haven't discovered yet that makes it so.
Also, this theory is falsifiable. Take a high altitude photograph with an exposure time long enough that we can see the shapes of constellations. If they are the same as if looked from the ground, you've falsified the FET. And if they are different, you've proven the FET.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58309.msg1760981#msg1760981This is simply an ingenuine response. I mean, come on, it could be reformulated as: "Constellations we see are simply mirages of the actual constellations." How is that different from saying: "We don't believe there is a Moon."?
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But they do. Orion, for example, is upside down if you are in Australia.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58309.msg1760667#msg1760667He simply hesitated in responding. I know he knew what Erdland meant, but just decided to pretend not to.
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http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58309.msg1756140#msg1756140This is the most obvious low-content posting and it wouldn't be tolerated on any serious forum. I mean, he made a half-page long post consisting only of dishonest rhetorics. I am pretty sure he knows why Pascals Wager and Galileo's Gambit are wrong, but he simply pretends not to!
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And, in my geography textbook, the largest RE apologetic I've ever read, is a picture showing that the Moon's orbit around the Earth is at the same angle as the Earth's orbit around the Sun. Based on that, you could conclude that you never see a full moon, but a lunar eclipse instead. So, my hypothesis is way closer to the truth than that one.
This makes it very obvious that he is dishonest. I mean, how could he know that if he had ever been mistaken about the actual RE theory?
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And about GPS? Well I already made a thread about what I think about it, so I am going to link to it, because I really hate to repeat myself. You have to repeat yourself because more often you tell a lie, more likely people are to believe that. I don't think we have to do that.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58309.msg1756140#msg1756140Self promotion!
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Again, Ad hominem arguments don't count here. I've presented the arguments, and you, I guess, haven't even tried to think of a sensical response to them. Also, I live in Croatia, and I am an excellent student. There are fourteen subjects in our school and last year, I had an A in all subjects except the art. This year, I go on competitions in physics, mathematics, biology, Latin and ICT. In every single of them, I was the best in my school and had enough points to attain the next level! So, you can't claim that I am not well educated! And even if I were, again, it wouldn't matter. I've made the arguments, and you weren't able to refute them.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1758162#msg1758162Again, self promotion!
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1) Look, you don't care about your dick. If you did, you wouldn't have had it circumcised, right? So, why do you care about mine? AH, YEAH! You do actually believe it's good for a dick to be circumcised because your family told you so, regardless of what the common sense and the people educated about that issue think! OK, so, if you ever reconsider what happens to your future male children, do some research on Wikipedia.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1760482#msg1760482Insulting people because of their religion.
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Also, I don't think you were misled, I think that your intention was mockery.
You might think that you are funny, but you aren't. You are arguing for killing thousands of innocent sentient animals. What's even worse is that our government actually allows you to do it!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65849.msg1762828#msg1762828Terrorism advocation!
12) His avatar. I mean, it contains an argument that I guess has been refuted countless times, but he just ignores that.
Seriously, he should really be stopped! And I only looked at two threads he poisoned! I am pretty sure you can find even more if you look at his posts!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=690259But, yeah, there is jroa on this forum, so I guess he was just learning from the best.