Looking to buy a new computer

Quiet PC are now stocking the cpu that you want. $386
http://www.quietpc.com/products/heatsinkacc

Could be yours tomorrow. 

^ Your components would all fit in that. Looks awesome I think.

Jesus fuck, you have horrible taste.

In fact, the only case you posted that looks even remotely as good as Parsifal's initial choice is this:

And even that has a ridiculous window thing in it. The rest of the cases you posted are riddled with retarded aesthetic choices.

I don't know what he likes pillock. I posted loads of different types. I can't believe though that his first choice is a $50 plastic case.


This monstrosity is £5700! Five thousand, seven hundred pounds sterling! For a the bottom of a plumbers bag.

I can't believe though that his first choice is a $50 plastic case.

Why not? I'm sure a $50 plastic case get's the job done. No need to waste money on a case with fancy but pointless aesthetic shit.

Quiet PC are now stocking the cpu that you want. $386
http://www.quietpc.com/products/heatsinkacc

Could be yours tomorrow. 

No they aren't. They only have the 3770K and the 3770S. I want the 3770.

Be a boss and don't get a case at all. Get a PC bench.

Be a boss and don't get a case at all. Get a PC bench.

I don't know if Thork has mislead you, but my case is not open for discussion. I like what I have selected. There are many other components that I could actually benefit from selecting something else, which I would be happy to accept suggestions for.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on April 29, 2012, 02:46:27 PM

Be a boss and don't get a case at all. Get a PC bench.

I don't know if Thork has mislead you, but my case is not open for discussion. I like what I have selected. There are many other components that I could actually benefit from selecting something else, which I would be happy to accept suggestions for.

I would say don't get a $300 mini oven processor, but for some reason I doubt you would take such a suggestion.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on April 29, 2012, 02:46:27 PM

Be a boss and don't get a case at all. Get a PC bench.

I don't know if Thork has mislead you, but my case is not open for discussion. I like what I have selected. There are many other components that I could actually benefit from selecting something else, which I would be happy to accept suggestions for.

This is absolute horseshit. You won't consider any processor other than the i7 3770.

No they aren't. They only have the 3770K and the 3770S. I want the 3770.

You have decided you want the ocz ssd 128b. You won't consider a smaller one or a different brand.
You are only interested in a 650W psu. You refuse to have anything less and have already chosen the one you want.
You insist you must have 16 gb of ram. 1600 CL9. You won't overclock so there is no point in getting faster than 1600. You won't have less than 16gb and no one does low latency for such large amounts.
The case is not up for discussion.
The video card will be the 560.
You already picked the blu-ray player.
You have already decided you want 2tb of disk space and 2tb of back up. This is also non-negotiable as I found out.
To top it off you won't buy from anyone other than pc gear.com so its not like there is a wide range of components to discuss.

so with all of that

There are many other components that I could actually benefit from selecting something else, which I would be happy to accept suggestions for.

this is complete and utter bollocks.

Quote from: Parsifal on April 29, 2012, 02:48:41 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on April 29, 2012, 02:46:27 PM

Be a boss and don't get a case at all. Get a PC bench.

I don't know if Thork has mislead you, but my case is not open for discussion. I like what I have selected. There are many other components that I could actually benefit from selecting something else, which I would be happy to accept suggestions for.

I would say don't get a $300 mini oven processor, but for some reason I doubt you would take such a suggestion.

You sir, are wasting your time.

Little disappointed in the pricing, the Microcenter prices are $10 higher than Sandy at launch, and Newegg's are 20-30 higher, even though MSRP is lower for all of this line. All this while (allegedly) using lower quality thermal products is a bummer. Still the best buy if you're going with a completely new system though.

Little disappointed in the pricing, the Microcenter prices are $10 higher than Sandy at launch, and Newegg's are 20-30 higher, even though MSRP is lower for all of this line. All this while (allegedly) using lower quality thermal products is a bummer. Still the best buy if you're going with a completely new system though.

I saw the i7 3820 for less than the price of a 2600k.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-391-IN
This seems remarkably good value being as it benchmarks just higher than a 2700k.
Is this a pricing error or are they just looking to get shot of it?

This is absolute horseshit. You won't consider any processor other than the i7 3770.

Calm down, Thork.  First of all, he didn't say that the case was the only component not open for discussion.  Secondly, just because he is asking for advice, that does not obligate him to take that advice if he doesn't feel like it.

This is page 12 Markjo. We have succeeded in changing his mind about nothing and yet he is inviting people to make suggestions. It is tantamount to trolling at this stage.

He changed his mind about the amount of RAM.

Quote from: General Disarray on April 29, 2012, 03:21:53 PM

Little disappointed in the pricing, the Microcenter prices are $10 higher than Sandy at launch, and Newegg's are 20-30 higher, even though MSRP is lower for all of this line. All this while (allegedly) using lower quality thermal products is a bummer. Still the best buy if you're going with a completely new system though.

I saw the i7 3820 for less than the price of a 2600k.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-391-IN
This seems remarkably good value being as it benchmarks just higher than a 2700k.
Is this a pricing error or are they just looking to get shot of it?

Yeah the 3820 is usually a bit cheaper than the 2700k, but you more than make up the difference in motherboard prices, 2011 tends to be a more expensive socket.

I prefer the added flexibility the integrated graphics allows you. You can easily hook up more monitors without overtaxing your graphics card, and you have a way to troubleshoot if your card dies on you.

At this point the only real competition Intel's products have is Intel's other products, which explains why Ivy Bridge's release did absolutely nothing to Sandy Bridge's price range. If you need a comparison, look at nVidia's product line. They recently released the GTX 680, which dropped the average price of a brand new GTX 580 by $200.

He changed his mind about the amount of RAM.

Then changed it back again. Do pay attention.

At this point the only real competition Intel's products have is Intel's other products, which explains why Ivy Bridge's release did absolutely nothing to Sandy Bridge's price range. If you need a comparison, look at nVidia's product line. They recently released the GTX 680, which dropped the average price of a brand new GTX 580 by $200.

Which is why (despite all rationality) I'm still interesting in seeing results from Piledriver, even after Bulldozer's flop. A monopoly in the CPU industry would be bad, and it's probably why Intel didn't push Ivy further this generation. There's no need to.

Quote from: Thork on April 29, 2012, 03:26:14 PM

Quote from: General Disarray on April 29, 2012, 03:21:53 PM

Little disappointed in the pricing, the Microcenter prices are $10 higher than Sandy at launch, and Newegg's are 20-30 higher, even though MSRP is lower for all of this line. All this while (allegedly) using lower quality thermal products is a bummer. Still the best buy if you're going with a completely new system though.

I saw the i7 3820 for less than the price of a 2600k.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-391-IN
This seems remarkably good value being as it benchmarks just higher than a 2700k.
Is this a pricing error or are they just looking to get shot of it?

Yeah the 3820 is usually a bit cheaper than the 2700k, but you more than make up the difference in motherboard prices, 2011 tends to be a more expensive socket.

I prefer the added flexibility the integrated graphics allows you. You can easily hook up more monitors without overtaxing your graphics card, and you have a way to troubleshoot if your card dies on you.

Its the 130W required to run it that would turn me off. that's a lot of heat to deal with. With the ivy bridge at 77W .... I'm never going to be interested in the extreme models. They just aren't aimed at me.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on April 29, 2012, 03:34:46 PM

At this point the only real competition Intel's products have is Intel's other products, which explains why Ivy Bridge's release did absolutely nothing to Sandy Bridge's price range. If you need a comparison, look at nVidia's product line. They recently released the GTX 680, which dropped the average price of a brand new GTX 580 by $200.

Which is why (despite all rationality) I'm still interesting in seeing results from Piledriver, even after Bulldozer's flop. A monopoly in the CPU industry would be bad, and it's probably why Intel didn't push Ivy further this generation. There's no need to.

Its going to get worse. All their future efforts are going into the atom processor. Its going to skip 2 generations to be 14nm at the same time as haswell. They see ARM and the phone market as their new challenge. They will likely take the piss with PCs for a while now.

I have no faith in AMD though. Piledriver is only 15% better than bulldozer. Its about 3 years late.

By the time AMD gets it's shit together and makes an Ivy Bridge equivalent, Intel (assuming they continue R&D at full steam ahead) will be shipping out their quantum flux crystal cell processors. One of these processors could calculate Pi in less than a second. By Pi I mean all of it, yes, all of it.

Having slept on the matter, I must say that I am still happy with my list of selected parts. However, I intend to purchase some other items to complement this new rig.

Keyboard and mouse: Logitech MK120 Desktop Keyboard Mouse Pack
I've bought nothing but Logitech keyboard and mouse products for the past five years, and they haven't failed me yet.

Ethernet over power adapter: Netcomm NP504 500Mbps Powerline Adapter Twin Pack

Gigabit switch: TP-Link SG1008D 8 Port Gigabit Desktop Switch
This is to connect my end of the Ethernet-over-power link to.

Cat6 network cables:
Cat6 Network Cable 0.5m
To link up the remote end of the Ethernet-over-power link, which is right next to the power.
Cat6 Network Cable 2m
Perhaps five or so of these, to connect my switch to stuff.

Headphone amp: Burson HA-160D Headphone Amplifier with DAC and Pre-Amp
If there's one thing worth spending over $1000 on, it's decent audio.

Headphones: Sennheiser HD 800
I can't get this from PC Case Gear, so I will be looking elsewhere once all this stuff is ordered.

I think that's everything. The above (except headphones) totals another $1311.50, pushing my PC Case Gear order total to over $3000. The HD 800 headphones will be another $1500 or so. I think that's a reasonable price to pay for out-of-this-world audio fidelity.

Quote from: markjo on April 29, 2012, 03:31:53 PM

He changed his mind about the amount of RAM.

Then changed it back again. Do pay attention.

Incorrect. I am now getting 16 GiB of RAM instead of 32 GiB.

Quote from: General Disarray on April 29, 2012, 03:35:52 PM

Quote from: markjo on April 29, 2012, 03:31:53 PM

He changed his mind about the amount of RAM.

Then changed it back again. Do pay attention.

Incorrect. I am now getting 16 GiB of RAM instead of 32 GiB.

My bad.

Headphone amp: Burson HA-160D Headphone Amplifier with DAC and Pre-Amp

Oh, well at least we know hes trollin' now.

Quote from: Parsifal on April 29, 2012, 04:44:46 PM

Headphone amp: Burson HA-160D Headphone Amplifier with DAC and Pre-Amp

Oh, well at least we know hes trollin' now.

You should look up how much the HD 800s cost.

You should look up how much the HD 800s cost.

No need, he posted that little gem just below the headphone amp. I just didn't bother to include it in the original quote because I value posting space.

I have now purchased a pair of Sennheiser HD 800 headphones, for $1448.63 (including shipping). All that's left is the order from PC Case Gear.

One concern I do have is whether sufficient cabling will come with all the parts I'm ordering to piece everything together. For instance, will a power cord typically come with a PSU? Are there any non-obvious gaps I'll need to buy cables for separately?

I have now purchased a pair of Sennheiser HD 800 headphones

You're going to regret that.