If all of the satellites are only a NASA conspiracy

How could Google Earth catch every single detail on Earth (with a precision of less than one meter) ? We clearly see these are satellites views. Same for the GPS : without satellites, gravitation and general relativity, how could this fucking work

How ?

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

Same for the GPS : without satellites, gravitation and general relativity, how could this fucking work

Easy: the transmitters are held up high in the sky by weather balloons and held down by cables. 

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 10:34:58 AM

Same for the GPS : without satellites, gravitation and general relativity, how could this fucking work

Easy: the transmitters are held up high in the sky by weather balloons and held down by cables.

You have to be fucking kidding me...

In any case, there's a great thread somewhere here that disproves the theory that satellites are not where they're supposed to be.

Also, all of this is rendered irrelevant, because I've seen the shape of the ISS with my telescope, and you can also see many, many other satellites with the naked eye crossing the sky, but they look like dots.

You have to be fucking kidding me...

...but only in your wildest dreams. 

In reality, somebody else clearly is doing that to you.  You do not even believe the crap you are spewing.  Sad shill. 

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 10:34:58 AM

Same for the GPS : without satellites, gravitation and general relativity, how could this fucking work

Easy: the transmitters are held up high in the sky by weather balloons and held down by cables.

Really?  There are quite a few of the GPS transmitters spread throughout the world. Funny how there isn't one photograph of these so-called GPS balloons being 'held down by cables'. If there is a picture somewhere on the internet, please provide the link.

Here we have another classic example of a FEer just making shit up.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 12:47:27 PM

You have to be fucking kidding me...

...but only in your wildest dreams. 

In reality, somebody else clearly is doing that to you.  You do not even believe the crap you are spewing.  Sad shill.

Idiot... Why don't you do some research? I know somebody on this site recorded the raw data that indicated where the transmitter was... Surprise surprise. In space.

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 12:47:27 PM

You have to be fucking kidding me...

...but only in your wildest dreams. 

In reality, somebody else clearly is doing that to you.  You do not even believe the crap you are spewing.  Sad shill.

How appropriate that your avatar depicts an upside down head. This certainly typifies your whole way of thinking - upside down.

If anybody is sad, it is you.  There is a whole world and universe out there, but sadly you are stuck in your own little FE fantasy world, devoid of facts and proven observations.

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

I didn't realize that. Why do we need jet engines, why not just use rockets on planes?

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Lol, now you're trying to compare a car's exhaust with a rocket engine?

As I stated in my previous post, the Apollo Saturn V rocket engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second.
And you're actually expecting that the ejected fuel from a car's engine should aid in its propulsion over the ground? Would you like to guess what the mass of ejected burnt fuel (gases) is that is being ejected out of a car's exhaust pipe every second? It would be much less than even one gram, and the speed of this coming coming out the exhaust would be pathetic.
Considering what this tiny mass would be, how could you ever expect this to actually help with the propulsion of a car, that might weigh in excess of 2000 kg?

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

So why did we could see the launch of the rockets, and see them going to space, if they can't go to space ?

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Oh, I've seen we're in a section named "Flat Earth Debate", not "Flath Earth Affirmations". So... 

Until then, f**k off.

"Debate"

Quote from: Master_Evar on September 05, 2015, 01:49:16 PM

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

I didn't realize that. Why do we need jet engines, why not just use rockets on planes?

Oh my god, you actually don't know much about anything do you?

The fuel used in an aircraft's jet engine is a derivative of petroleum, is cheap and plentiful and can be contained easily within the fuel tanks of an aircraft. These tanks do not need to be pressurised either.

The fuel used by rockets on the other hand, is extremely expensive to manufacture, highly volatile and requires constant pressurisation, and normally involves 2 types of fuel (liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen) that must be contained separately until they are mixed in the combustion chamber.

The fact that you would even ask the question as to why rockets are not used on jet aircraft is a sad joke.

There have of course been aircraft that have used rocket engines, but these were only experimental. The X-1 and X-15 being examples.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

It does push it forward, but the force is so tiny that it can't overcome the forces of friction.

Quote from: Master_Evar on September 05, 2015, 01:49:16 PM

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

I didn't realize that. Why do we need jet engines, why not just use rockets on planes?

Because rockets, although they are more powerful, are terribly inefficient, impractical, and really expensive compared to jet engines.

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

Quote from: Master_Evar on September 05, 2015, 01:49:16 PM

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

I didn't realize that. Why do we need jet engines, why not just use rockets on planes?

Actually, we have fucking rocket reactors on a car. Yes, on a CAR. The Bloodhound SSC, who will in 2016 go at 1000 mph.

And for the rockets, they can go in space. Just go to Kourou or Cape Canaveral Air Force Station during a rocket launch and you will have the proof. You will see a thing like this : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:53:19 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on September 05, 2015, 01:49:16 PM

Quote from: Yendor on September 05, 2015, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

'Neither rockets - nor anything else man made can get into space......'?    Really?

The documented and observed evidence plainly shows that ROCKETS CAN GET INTO SPACE. Why wouldn't they?  If your answer is going to be something along the lines that rockets need an atmosphere to push off, then sadly your knowledge of physics is virtually non-existent. The Apollo Saturn V rocket's 1st stage engines ejected 15 tons of burnt fuel every second, at a speed of over 4 km/second. Newton's 3rd law of motion states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. A rocket engine is reactionary. In other words, the action of the huge mass of burnt fuel travelling at hypersonic speed going in one direction causes the rocket to be propelled in the opposite direction. If anything, the atmosphere actually impedes a rocket's progress due to drag, until it reaches higher altitudes, where the rocket engine becomes much more efficient due to a lack of atmosphere.

Why doesn't a car's exhaust push it forward. It may not go as fast as a rocket, but surely it should move a little.

Exhaust does push a car forwards. By an amount so small it's incomprehensible for the human brain, that it's practically zero.

I didn't realize that. Why do we need jet engines, why not just use rockets on planes?

Oh my god, you actually don't know much about anything do you?

The fuel used in an aircraft's jet engine is a derivative of petroleum, is cheap and plentiful and can be contained easily within the fuel tanks of an aircraft. These tanks do not need to be pressurised either.

The fuel used by rockets on the other hand, is extremely expensive to manufacture, highly volatile and requires constant pressurisation, and normally involves 2 types of fuel (liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen) that must be contained separately until they are mixed in the combustion chamber.

The fact that you would even ask the question as to why rockets are not used on jet aircraft is a sad joke.

There have of course been aircraft that have used rocket engines, but these were only experimental. The X-1 and X-15 being examples.

Below is an example of an air-breathing rocket plane that is both a rocket and a jet.

From Wikipedia
SABRE (Synergistic Air-Breathing Rocket Engine)[1] is a concept under development by Reaction Engines Limited for a hypersonic precooled hybrid air breathing rocket engine.[5][6] The engine has been designed to achieve single-stage-to-orbit capability, propelling the proposed Skylon launch vehicle. SABRE is an evolution of Alan Bond's series of liquid air cycle engine (LACE) and LACE-like designs that started in the early/mid-1980s for the HOTOL project.

The design comprises a single combined cycle rocket engine with two modes of operation.[4] The air breathing mode combines a turbo-compressor with a lightweight air precooler positioned just behind the inlet cone. At high speeds this precooler cools the hot, ram-compressed air leading to an unusually high pressure ratio within the engine. The compressed air is subsequently fed into the rocket combustion chamber where it is ignited with stored liquid hydrogen. The high pressure ratio allows the engine to continue to provide high thrust at very high speeds and altitudes. The low temperature of the air permits light alloy construction to be employed which gives a very lightweight engine—essential for reaching orbit. In addition, unlike the LACE concept, SABRE’s precooler does not liquefy the air letting it run more efficiently.[3]

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

Do you seriously think that making enormous holographic projections in the sky that are visible from everywhere and always appear solid and extremely bright is possible?

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 03:06:25 PM

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

Do you seriously think that making enormous holographic projections in the sky that are visible from everywhere and always appear solid and extremely bright is possible?

Government technology is decades ahead of what most people believe to be possible today.

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

It's not believing. It's only constating the observable time of the ISS is different for each town, wich would not be possible on a flat Earth.

Even with the best projections of the world, it wouldn't be possible at all on a flat Earth.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 03:06:25 PM

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

Do you seriously think that making enormous holographic projections in the sky that are visible from everywhere and always appear solid and extremely bright is possible?

Government technology is decades ahead of what most people believe to be possible today.

There is no way in hell someone could ever make such a hologram. No way. It's impossible. Plus the ray from the laser shining onto it would probably be visible. Also, if you think that government technology is decades ahead of what we believe (although it would probably have to be a couple centuries ahead), then I guess that it was like that back in 1998, when the ISS was first put into orbit. Or as far back as 1986, when the Mir space station was put into orbit (fun fact: it wasn't even by NASA). Or as far back as the 70s, when the first satellites that could be seen from Earth were put in orbit. Wait. Holograms were only first invented in 1971, and back then, they weren't really much at all. They were kinda shitty. Very shitty actually.

Have you ever observed the ISS? It's easy to see with the naked eye. Sometimes, if sunlight bounces directly off of its solar panels, it gets extremely bright, much brighter than Venus even. There is no way that could be done with a hologram.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

You see, this is all that you Flat Earth fantasists have as a counter-argument - perhaps all the rocket launches were just holographic projections, lol.  But on the other hand, some of you also think that this is all the moon is, some sort of holographic projection?  You people are so full of shit, I can smell you from my study.

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 10:34:58 AM

Same for the GPS : without satellites, gravitation and general relativity, how could this fucking work

Easy: the transmitters are held up high in the sky by weather balloons and held down by cables.

Then how do low orbit satellites fly over us at 17,000 miles per hour?  Last I checked, balloons don't do that.

Quote from: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 05, 2015, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 05, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

Neither rockets - nor anything else man-made - can get into space, so it must be some other technology.

Think about it, then return with Answers rather than Questions & maybe we'll give you the time of day...

Until then, f**k off.

Only I can see satellites and the ISS with my telescope, so... Yeah. I think you get the idea.

How can you be certain that what you are seeing is not just holographic projections set up by NASA? They seemed to convince a lot of people that they landed on the moon in the past using smoke and mirror theatrics.

If these were holographic projections on a flat earth, they would be visible nearly at the same time everywhere. It's not the case, NASA give the observable time for each city, and we are clearly able to observe that these are the true observable times. So it's not an hologram, or the Earth isn't flat.

You believe in an organization that supposedly has the technology to send people into space, and you seriously doubt their ability to make a convincing projection?

That's an interesting comment you've just made. Apparently you're very confident that all of NASA's rockets are actually just holographic projections, based on your contention that because they 'have the technology to send people into space', therefore they also have the 'ability to make a convincing projection'?

But if it's your opinion that all of NASA's rockets never went into space at all, due to the impossibility of space travel, then why would you propose that they had the technology to make a convincing projection, when in fact they actually didn't even have the technology to get into space?