WHY?

What is the benefit to whoever it shall be of maintaining the pretence that the earth is a globe? How do people make money out of it?, how do people gain power by it?

Money is clearly a valid motivation

Money is clearly a valid motivation

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on February 11, 2020, 09:04:10 PM

Money is clearly a valid motivation

It might be if you could tell us, what money.
Show us the money trail - the Global space industry was worth almost $USD 350 billion and NASA, the usual target only gets a paltry $USD 20 billion or so.

That $USD 350 billion is largely for services provided, such as TV satellites - no TV satellite no money.

Mostly the money used

HEHEHE MOONSHRIMP

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on February 11, 2020, 09:45:22 PM

Mostly the money used

Rab, I dont think Moonshrimp guy is gonna give you the well thought out argument that your looking for.

I must warn you, please do not resort to slurs

Money is clearly a valid motivation

They are wrong: simply said, we are wrong about the shape of the earth, and there is no conspiracy. This describes why the earth might look round from far away: https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/blog/einsteins-relativity-proves-earth-flat

• The title "EINSTEIN'S RELATIVITY PROVES THE EARTH IS FLAT" is simply incorrect.
  Einstein's General Relativity does not "curve space" in such a way that the shape appears to change. All the curvature of spacetime does is to make the Earth appear a few cm larger than the physical size.
  Nor does it claim that the mass of the Earth bends light by enough to be measurable let alone making a flat Earth look curved of spherical!
  
  
• Your "Ferrari Effect" is simply a reference to an obviously spoof video.
  
  Dr. Leo Charles Ferrar introduces the Ferrari Effect, though, undoubtedly because of his modesty , he never called it that.
  
  And the main feature, proving the reality of the Ferrari Effect :
  
  AMAZING! Dr. Leo Charles Ferrari PROVES FLAT EARTH...
  See more in AMAZING! Dr. Leo Charles Ferrari PROVES FLAT EARTH, These are clearly men of science, they can't be wrong - right? (The link to the video is broken in that reference but it was the video above.)
  And in case anyone doubts that the video is tongue-in-cheek, take particular note of:
  • "light curved by mass makes the earth look a sphere from space" from 14:00.
    Sure, mass curves light but "If a beam of light were to pass right over Earth surface, it would be bent by 0.0006 arc-seconds."
    In other words, the whole premise behind the so-called "Ferrari Effect" is hogwash!
    
    
  • Day and night explained by "Instead of spinning around . .  it goes up and down . . . "  at 19:55
    
    
  • "Space/non-Space  " from 20:30. Then at 21:00 "and you can move through 'non-space' in no time"  .
    
    
  • "Cows in Antarctica" at 22:38 - Duh!
  "IN SEARCH OF THE EDGE: An Inquiry into the Shape of the Earth and the Disappearance of Andrea Barns" STUDY GUIDE
  Reading the STUDY GUIDE leaves no doubt as to the purpose of "In Search of the Edge".
  
  But, enjoy the video for what it was intended to be!
  
  You have seen the completely "fantastic" flat earth model presented in the video.
  The Earth moving up and down causing night and day. 
  If anyone takes that "model" seriously,
  
  This might enlighten people to the "Ferrari Effect".

Yes Rab, I named it after him as he gave me the idea to look into it. It could be better named perhaps, but it is named as such to help bolster folks clicking the link.

Attempting to poison the well, perhaps?

What is the benefit to whoever it shall be of maintaining the pretence that the earth is a globe? How do people make money out of it?, how do people gain power by it?

Attempting to poison the well, perhaps?

There are five common explanations for this, but in the end without toppling the Planar Conspiracy there is no real way to know. Different people believe different explanations, or even ones not mentioned here.

To Control Information: In a similar way to 1984, control of information is control of everything. The flat earth is even mentioned in the book itself.

They are wrong: simply said, we are wrong about the shape of the earth, and there is no conspiracy. This describes why the earth might look round from far away: https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/blog/einsteins-relativity-proves-earth-flat

To Maintain Legitimacy: During the Cold War we faked the moon landing. Shortly after they realized the reason they could not reach the moon was due to the flatness of the Earth. They were stuck in a lie, and had to continue it or lose legitimacy of our governments. Even today we would still hold onto this lie due to role Science plays in our ruling government.

To hide the truth of the Bible.

To Gain Power and Money: By siphoning off the space budgets and denying the world the resources of the Antarctic they gain a considerable amount of power and wealth.

Unless you live under a rock, you will realize that few countries agree on anything.

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on February 16, 2020, 11:00:43 PM

Unless you live under a rock, you will realize that few countries agree on anything.

That's what THEY want you to think.
By convincing people that these countries hate each other and would happily blow each other's cover it makes the lie more convincing.

Maybe the real reason Qasem Soleimani was killed was that he was tired of all the lies?

I think guys like Gaddafi, Stalin, Hitler, Saddam Hussein realised that those where real bombs coming their way at some point.

"Hey guys, its still a joke right . . . . guys . . . "

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on February 16, 2020, 11:09:39 PM

I think guys like Gaddafi, Stalin, Hitler, Saddam Hussein realised that those where real bombs coming their way at some point.

"Hey guys, its still a joke right . . . . guys . . . "

Hitler killed himself, with his body pretty much destroyed beyond recognition before it was found. So did he really die? There are already conspiracy theories about his escape from Germany.
Stalin died from cerebral hemorrhage, not a bomb.

And with what is shown in movies these days, were the other deaths real either?
Hussein's execution was carried out in a military compound, and his body was either taken from the tomb, or was "destroyed" with the tomb.
Gaddafi allegedly died in transit. His body was buried without an autopsy.

The way they died was not the point. They all died with their backs to the wall and had less than zero reason to keep any conspiracy alive. In fact, if there was a conspiracy it would have greatly benefited them to blow it wide open to weaken their opposition.
The question remains, why would they keep a conspiracy that would have helped them if they blew it wide open. Yet none of them even mentioned the idea of a Flat World.

I wasn't focusing on how they died, but if they really died at all? (With the exception of Stalin, who like I said died of a hemorrhage, I don't see how telling everyone Earth is flat would have helped with that).
If there was a conspiracy and they blew it open then they could have died for real, without it helping them at all.

Well, either way, Hitler is dead today one way or other.
Yeah, but when your backed in a corner, you will use what ever you have to get out.
If keeping the secret was such a big deal, it would also obviously hurt your opposition. Otherwise they would not need the big secret in the first place.
For Hitler, Stalin, Gaddaffi and Saddam, the USA was an opponent. To not use an obvious tool at your disposal would make no sense. Even if they where not backed up against a corner, it still makes sense to use what ever you have against your opponent. This still applies today, what incentive does Iran, Vietnam, North Korea, most African countries, China or India have to not use "the secret" as a massive bargaining chip against the USA.
The bigger the secret, the weaker you are to bribery. Especially considering that any nation with any surveying ability would have access to this information.

You aren't getting what I am saying.
I'm suggesting that they weren't opponents.
That WWII and the like were all for show (at least to those in charge).
That in "reality" the leaders actually get along and are all in on the conspiracy.
That they "pretend" to hate each other to make the lies more believable.