Katy Perry in space

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Katy Perry in space
« on: April 17, 2025, 11:43:13 AM »


We literally don't see any spinning ball, only impulsive and hallucinated globers are thinking this proves the spinning wet globe, and only ignorant flat earthers are denying that it is real.


Katy Perry said the Earth is flat:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIjfIgbpvCA/?igsh=NzM5dWlqdXhzMm1j

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2025, 12:38:12 PM »

We literally don't see any spinning ball,

Were they in a position over earth for more than 24 hours?  You do know it takes the earth 24 hours to “spin” once?

Anyway..

Again.  The FE model is useless at predicting the path of the sun.  Draw it out. The sun circling over the earth would have to rise and set in other directions than east and west for various locations.  The sun should travel north / south over Japan for flat earth.  Yet, on the equinox the sun rises due east and sets due west for Japan.  The flat earth is useless at reliable predictions regarding the sun.

I was able to take a few good pictures of a comet last year. 

One of the better pictures that shows up well in most threads.



The heliocentric model is useful for things like predicting comets.

By all means, explain how flat earth is better at modeling and predictions regarding comets, and how it would be more useful to me than the heliocentric reality. 

And explain why humankind can’t follow in the paths of comets. 

So.  Stress about stars all you want while I actually look and document the world around me, and the phenomena of space.  Katy Perry is as useless to me as flat earth. 

 
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2025, 01:08:11 PM »
I find it doubtful Katy Perry is a flat earther. That said, this is just the ruling class parading about to make us believe in their myths. Might as well call her the Sun King in his prime.
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2025, 01:22:58 PM »
We literally don't see any spinning ball, only impulsive and hallucinated globers are thinking this proves the spinning wet globe, and only ignorant flat earthers are denying that it is real.
No, only people like you straw manning think that.
Just what are you expecting to see for a spinning globe, when you are mostly moving with it and it is rotating so slowly.

But it is certainly 100% consistent with a rotating round Earth, and inconsistent with a FE.
Care to explain the horizon in that footage?

Katy Perry said the Earth is flat:
Got a better source for that, rather than pretty much taking only a tiny fraction of a sentense?

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2025, 02:00:02 PM »
We literally don't see any spinning ball, only impulsive and hallucinated globers are thinking this proves the spinning wet globe, and only ignorant flat earthers are denying that it is real.
One shouldn't expect to see a spinning ball from such a brief jaunt.  However, one could expect to se a curved horizon.
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2025, 10:06:12 AM »
I thought a spaceship full of woman would lead to a crash

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2025, 10:07:14 AM »
Yet again the space ship was full of woman

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2025, 10:18:20 AM »
Flipside Webcomic demonstrates what a plant is.






So when Katy Perry or Jeran or whoever else claims loudly that they are Flat Earthers (I would even include Eric Dubay, if I thought he were likely to do it), then volunteers to go to space or to Antarctica or to Mars, and suddenly they're a believer. And we're supposed to be convinced by their conversion. Sorry, but I've seen something like that in a cult that I attended by accident. Rather than convince me, it disgusted me. I left not long after.

This is why I tell you that I understand these FE teachings, but no, I am not anyone's follower. Because it is far too easy for these teachers to decide one day to betray us with a kiss.

Don't bother lying to me. It's a waste of time.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2025, 12:52:08 PM »
yet again the space ship was controlled by men

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2025, 02:13:12 PM »

 I am not anyone's follower.

Eric, Eric, Eric, Eric….


So?  Your really Eric Dubay





Where does Eric end and you begin?

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2025, 02:23:18 PM »
yet again the space ship was controlled by men
Actually, it was mostly controlled by computers.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2025, 02:25:46 PM »
Flipside Webcomic demonstrates what a plant is.
You mean you yet again appeal to your delusional fantasy.
You have nothing to indicate they are plants rather than being honest.

This is why I tell you that I understand these FE teachings
Yet you also tell us you defer your thinking to them, as if you don't understand at all, and are just playing follow the leader.

What is for certain is that you can't justify these FE teachings.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2025, 08:53:19 PM »
What?

You think that Katy Perry, having never been particularly outspoken about being a flat Earth while she was singing Hot and Cold, California Girls, I'm Wide Awake, or I Kissed A Girl, all of a sudden speaks up about it... just in time to win a free trip to space.

Doesn't the timing of that seem at all convenient to you?

This is not about someone who has for years said that, and me suddenly disowning them. This is about them suddenly speaking up about it, and just as suddenly having someone arrange a trip in order to prove them wrong. 

Tell you what. Just for today I'm gonna decide I'm a Round Earther, and Billy the Flat Earth Sailor is going to show me how Earth is 70% water, and since water is pretty much zero elevation, that clinches it. Omg, I'm a flat Earther again.

Do you accept my sudden conversion to Round Earth? No, because it's total crap.

Actually, there are alot of reasons that I'm a flat Earther.

And one of them has to do with you guys aggressively trying to "de-brainwash" me from FE. In the US, where Judaism is a minority, Jews leave people alone. In Israel, where defecting from Judaism is a threat, Jews who become Messianic are considered fake Jews, and heavy levels of guilt ensue. In atheistic households, becoming religious is a threat, and they talk them out of it. When you encounter that sort of resistance, it's the cult trying to bring you back in. That's a pretty strong tell that you're being persuaded to believe nonsense. Death threats would be another.

Likewise, from my stint in an actual cult, members who leave are disowned. But there's a distinct difference from "I never knew you" after four years, and the first I've ever heard of it Katy Perry claiming to be flat Earther and immediately getting put on a special trip. I am fairly certain that I would never get such a trip. But even if I were sure she wasn't a shill, that's basically like saying "you're too high profile to believe such a thing. NASA won't allow that."

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2025, 09:02:20 PM »
... from my stint in an actual cult, members who leave are disowned. But there's a distinct difference from "I never knew you" after four years, and the first I've ever heard of it Katy Perry claiming to be flat Earther and immediately getting put on a special trip. I am fairly certain that I would never get such a trip. But even if I were sure she wasn't a shill, that's basically like saying "you're too high profile to believe such a thing. NASA won't allow that."
If I may ask, what was your experience in that cult, and how did u get out?
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2025, 11:24:49 PM »
What?



How about you read my first post in this thread.


We literally don't see any spinning ball,

Were they in a position over earth for more than 24 hours?  You do know it takes the earth 24 hours to “spin” once?

Anyway..

Again.  The FE model is useless at predicting the path of the sun.  Draw it out. The sun circling over the earth would have to rise and set in other directions than east and west for various locations.  The sun should travel north / south over Japan for flat earth.  Yet, on the equinox the sun rises due east and sets due west for Japan.  The flat earth is useless at reliable predictions regarding the sun.

I was able to take a few good pictures of a comet last year. 

One of the better pictures that shows up well in most threads.



The heliocentric model is useful for things like predicting comets.

By all means, explain how flat earth is better at modeling and predictions regarding comets, and how it would be more useful to me than the heliocentric reality. 

And explain why humankind can’t follow in the paths of comets. 

So.  Stress about stars all you want while I actually look and document the world around me, and the phenomena of space.  Katy Perry is as useless to me as flat earth. 

 
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I don't stand a chance
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I might as well enjoy my life
And watch the stars play

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2025, 05:20:36 AM »
... from my stint in an actual cult, members who leave are disowned. But there's a distinct difference from "I never knew you" after four years, and the first I've ever heard of it Katy Perry claiming to be flat Earther and immediately getting put on a special trip. I am fairly certain that I would never get such a trip. But even if I were sure she wasn't a shill, that's basically like saying "you're too high profile to believe such a thing. NASA won't allow that."
If I may ask, what was your experience in that cult, and how did u get out?

I moved away from home to be independent (I later decided that was nonsense, as it is actually harder today to be independent than in my grandfather's day, and they often lived with their parents). Having no particular town in mind to settle, I kept driving and driving until I was near where my sister was at the time. But Arizona wasn't a great place for a job if you didn't know what you were doing. I didn't speak enough Spanish to really manage. So after I was forced to leave my apartment, I did work for the Worldwide Organization of Organic Farming (WWOOF). Basically, you volunteer farm for a small stipend, and I used this to travel. One of the places was called Morning Star Ranch at Valley Center, CA. Had I read the info carefully, I would have noticed "Oh, this is a cult." But I just wanted a place to go to. They were run by Twelve Tribes, which was a Messianic Jewish cult based around some of the Jehovah's Witness or whatever thought.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities
They had some leaflets talking about the second death, it was intense stuff. They also believed in stuff like weddings that are "pre-enacted" and that only reciting the "correct" name of Jesus (Yah Shua) can you be considered a true Christian, so all others were fake. So anyway, I was just there to work, right? And they were laying piping to grow avocados, and eating weird bread, and they had certain people (the totally brainwashed ones) running the store outside the community while the rest did the milking of the animals or collecting eggs or helping the farm work. The people were sorta friendly but rude (example: this girl was talking to me, then I saved her seat, and these other two just kinda ignored it while she was coming back to tell me all about Yah Shua), and one of the people I sorta connected with was this older guy there for his son, who abruptly had this vocal conversion about how he now accepted Yah Shua. This is what I mean, when you can't connect the line of thought to a coherent idea, you decide maybe someone's will has been tampered with. "Today, I have decided to follow the Golden Snake God" immediately should prompt the question, "what brought this on?" And another guy threw himself into the water to be baptized. And still another, who was a talented artist, heard that the elders didn't want his work, and tossed it into the fire. Anyway, it was Passover week, and they were talking about "removing the leaven from your life" and how if you don't hate your parents and leave them, you're not worthy of God.
I was sensing a pattern of sorta people getting tooled around, and during a particularly long service (I had decided to attend the stuff in addition to working at the farm), a kid opened the door to announce that food was ready. I started packing. So some guy who reminded me of an old dorky classmate from elementary school followed me and was like "You going? Blah blah blah, I left once but I came back." Yeah whatever kid, I'm not coming back if I can help it. Kept packing. Out comes one of the elders, asking me questions. He finds out that I miss my family, and he says "Your parents are going to second death." I gave him my best "Another word, and I will hurt you" look, finished packing, asked him if the gates were open. I dealt with some disorientation leaving the cult where I could immediately remember which way out, then drove up the coast as far and as fast as I could. I went  to a Presbyterian church where the lady talked about sacrificial offerings in Judaism. Then she paused, and said, "We don't have to do that anymore." And in light of the time in the cult where they were obsessed with sacrifice, that sermon hit me like a ton of bricks.

So excuse me if I'm not interested in your RE cult. You never gave me a choice whether to join, you just started preaching this nonsense when I was old enough for school.  And now that I no longer care, you're wanting me back. Well sorry, returns to a cult they left tend to eat dog food. No thanks.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2025, 05:22:56 AM »
yet again the space ship was controlled by men
Actually, it was mostly controlled by computers.
somewhat like you, I guess.
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2025, 03:28:42 PM »

 I am not anyone's follower.

Eric, Eric, Eric, Eric….


So?  Your really Eric Dubay





Where does Eric end and you begin?

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Well, let's see.

I'm not a vegan. (He is)
I believe in God and Jesus. (He thinks the Bible is a silly book, and tends to put more stock in world religions)
I don't do rap. (He does, to great effect)
I have only posted two videos about FE (three if you count a solar eclipse video), and they are all on BitChute. The rest of my videos on BitChute are about my roleplaying adventures, or crappy songs I made, or the like. (practically all of his are conspiracy theory videos)
I live in Virginia. (I want to say that he lives in Maine or somewhere up north?)

Yeah sorry, different person.

What I mean is that unlike RE ppl who sit at the feet of Neil Tyson and "isn't he a genius", I happen to know the guy has been off. I'm pretty sure the measurement of 100 miles to Chicago may have come from mishearing one of his videos. The reason that I listen is not because I expect the man to be perfect (any more than I expect Trump to be a decent person), but because "close enough" is good enough for me, when the alternative is totally opposed.


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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2025, 03:51:21 PM »
You think that Katy Perry, having never been particularly outspoken about being a flat Earth while she was singing Hot and Cold, California Girls, I'm Wide Awake, or I Kissed A Girl, all of a sudden speaks up about it... just in time to win a free trip to space.
No. I don't think she ever was, instead I think someone is trying to misrepresent her.

Just who is trying to suggest she is a flat Earther?

She went on a feminist BS trip.

Actually, there are alot of reasons that I'm a flat Earther.
Yet none are actually based upon reason.

And in fact, it is so horribly delusional, that you see people calling out your BS as further "evidence" that your BS is true.
Do you know the kind of people that would believe that? People heavily brainwashed into a cult.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2025, 04:46:31 AM »
I think Username suggested she might not be?

So it occurred to me that the assumption was that she admitted she was, and they sent her on a Final Experiment to help her see the light.

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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2025, 12:59:53 PM »
I think Username suggested she might not be?

So it occurred to me that the assumption was that she admitted she was, and they sent her on a Final Experiment to help her see the light.
And I see nothing to support that assumption.
To me, it seems far more likely she is a famous woman that went on this PR stunt.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2025, 01:12:41 PM »
They didn't even go all the way around! Elon Musk is a filthy piece of shit, but at least his rockets go all the way around. Jeff Bezos's space penis barely even qualifies to have "space" in its name.

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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2025, 01:24:44 PM »
They didn't even go all the way around! Elon Musk is a filthy piece of shit, but at least his rockets go all the way around. Jeff Bezos's space penis barely even qualifies to have "space" in its name.
His space penis is about going for a joy-ride to space, not going into orbit.
And at least his space penis doesn't destroy the launch pad or blow up and scatter debris over a large area.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2025, 02:42:49 PM »
They didn't even go all the way around! Elon Musk is a filthy piece of shit, but at least his rockets go all the way around. Jeff Bezos's space penis barely even qualifies to have "space" in its name.
His space penis is about going for a joy-ride to space, not going into orbit.
And at least his space penis doesn't destroy the launch pad or blow up and scatter debris over a large area.

The value of the "manned" space program is questionable. But if there is any value in, for example, the ISS, SpaceX reliably sends people to and returns them from, the ISS at a vastly lower cost than NASA, with a better safety record (so far). SpaceX provides launch and return services for programs that are generally considered legitimate.

Bezos does nothing but space tourism, and as noted, doesn't even go into orbit. The space penis barely even makes it into space.

In my opinion, people should not be going into space at all. Microgravity has serious consequences on the human body, and if the Artemis program continues forward, the astronauts will be exposed to high levels of cosmic radiation that will take further tolls on their bodies. But the space penis is nothing but a publicity stunt with zero actual usefulness.

FWIW, I think it would be cool to have a ride in a stratospheric balloon. Not going to spend $130,000 on it. But it would be cool. And MUCH safer than a rocket to the bare edge of space.

On an only tangentially-related note, I climbed to the top of Humphrey's Peak, in Arizona (near Flagstaff) which is 12,633 feet above sea level, and even at that elevation the curvature of the Earth is manifest. You don't need to go into orbit to clearly see the rotundity of the Earth. There are mountains that require no special mountaineering skills to climb (Humphrey's Peak is a walk-up with a trail all the way) from which you can see that the Earth is round.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2025, 03:18:41 PM »


Well, let's see.

I'm not a vegan. (He is)
I believe in God and Jesus. (He thinks the Bible is a silly book, and tends to put more stock in world religions)
I don't do rap. (He does, to great effect)
I have only posted two videos about FE (three if you count a solar eclipse video), and they are all on BitChute. The rest of my videos on BitChute are about my roleplaying adventures, or crappy songs I made, or the like. (practically all of his are conspiracy theory videos)
I live in Virginia. (I want to say that he lives in Maine or somewhere up north?)



So?  Just an obsessed stalker? 

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2025, 06:12:11 PM »
Not even that!

I mainly just look at his videos when I'm on here. Or I'm bored.

I do alot more gaming. And writing. And writing games.

If I were a stalker, I'd go to his house or something. That's how proper stalkers behave. At best, I'm a fan. Not a follower (in either sense of the word, I haven't even liked or subscribed him), and definitely not a stalker.

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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2025, 03:14:23 PM »
What?

You think that Katy Perry, having never been particularly outspoken about being a flat Earth while she was singing Hot and Cold, California Girls, I'm Wide Awake, or I Kissed A Girl, all of a sudden speaks up about it... just in time to win a free trip to space.

Doesn't the timing of that seem at all convenient to you?

This is not about someone who has for years said that, and me suddenly disowning them. This is about them suddenly speaking up about it, and just as suddenly having someone arrange a trip in order to prove them wrong. 

Tell you what. Just for today I'm gonna decide I'm a Round Earther, and Billy the Flat Earth Sailor is going to show me how Earth is 70% water, and since water is pretty much zero elevation, that clinches it. Omg, I'm a flat Earther again.

Do you accept my sudden conversion to Round Earth? No, because it's total crap.

Actually, there are alot of reasons that I'm a flat Earther.

And one of them has to do with you guys aggressively trying to "de-brainwash" me from FE. In the US, where Judaism is a minority, Jews leave people alone. In Israel, where defecting from Judaism is a threat, Jews who become Messianic are considered fake Jews, and heavy levels of guilt ensue. In atheistic households, becoming religious is a threat, and they talk them out of it. When you encounter that sort of resistance, it's the cult trying to bring you back in. That's a pretty strong tell that you're being persuaded to believe nonsense. Death threats would be another.

Likewise, from my stint in an actual cult, members who leave are disowned. But there's a distinct difference from "I never knew you" after four years, and the first I've ever heard of it Katy Perry claiming to be flat Earther and immediately getting put on a special trip. I am fairly certain that I would never get such a trip. But even if I were sure she wasn't a shill, that's basically like saying "you're too high profile to believe such a thing. NASA won't allow that."

You can hear that shes on tiktok reading a live feed. "Someone said 'the earth is flat?' Wow."

We have plenty of bullet proof arguments the earth is flat as well as celebrity support. We don't need to manufacture it.
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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2025, 02:48:52 AM »
If you're interested.

My favorite part is where they talking about the door opening blooper.



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Re: Katy Perry in space
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2025, 04:04:37 PM »
We have plenty of bullet proof arguments the earth is flat as well as celebrity support. We don't need to manufacture it.
Celebrity support is worthless. What matters is evidence and arguments.
While you claim to have them, no one seems to want to provide them.

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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2025, 10:47:04 AM »
When we agree, Jack Black, it deserves a high five.

Celebrity support, for or against FE, is worthless.