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Jackal

Hello
« on: January 26, 2008, 08:26:01 PM »
I just found the forums and I'm am glad to finally see some fellow FE'rs.  The reason I'm a FE is because I myself have tested for the convexity of the oceans but have seen them to be perfectly flat.  I do not know everything about the FE and how it works just that it is flat.  I'm sure many of us FE'rs are ridiculed here but if thats what it takes to spread the truth I am fine with it.  I hope to gain knowledge in the FE so I can spread the truth.  One of my questions that I don't understand is that the Sun and Moon are above us and very small (the sun is 32 miles in diameter I think?) but in the RE model everything is centered around the sun.  So my question is what do the other planets revolve around or do we know.

Glad to be here.  Cheers.

Jackal

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Bushido

Re: Hello
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 08:35:26 PM »
Now, I know what you are thinking:

"Did they buy my story or not?"

But, being this a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world that can blow your head clean off, you have to ask yourself one question:

"Do I feel lucky?"

Well, do you?










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Jackal

Re: Hello
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 08:38:21 PM »
Ok that was random.

A troll?

Re: Hello
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 08:43:54 PM »
He's saying he doesn't really believe you're a flat earther. I don't think it's that relevant anyway, though, because it's a valid enough question. Might be answered somewhere else in the forum, but i'm not sure -- have a search just in case.

A troll is someone that tries to start arguments online, I think, more or less.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 08:51:59 PM »
If you don't understand something you're meant to blame the conspiracy, or make "I have no idea" sound more credible, something like "The mechanism is not known as of yet".

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Re: Hello
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 03:31:29 AM »
If you don't understand something you're meant to blame the conspiracy, or make "I have no idea" sound more credible, something like "The mechanism is not known as of yet".
Or email a request to the Tom Bishop, it will generate a post in the thread to explain the issue.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 12:08:03 PM »
I just found the forums and I'm am glad to finally see some fellow FE'rs.  The reason I'm a FE is because I myself have tested for the convexity of the oceans but have seen them to be perfectly flat.  I do not know everything about the FE and how it works just that it is flat.  I'm sure many of us FE'rs are ridiculed here but if thats what it takes to spread the truth I am fine with it.  I hope to gain knowledge in the FE so I can spread the truth.  One of my questions that I don't understand is that the Sun and Moon are above us and very small (the sun is 32 miles in diameter I think?) but in the RE model everything is centered around the sun.  So my question is what do the other planets revolve around or do we know.

Glad to be here.  Cheers.

Jackal

Hi, Tom.  ::)
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Hello
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 12:19:07 PM »
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So my question is what do the other planets revolve around or do we know.

The planets revolve around the sun.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 12:21:04 PM »
lol, like a dog he is.  ;D
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Hello
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 01:03:13 PM »
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So my question is what do the other planets revolve around or do we know.

The planets revolve around the sun.

the sun that is thousands of times smaller than the earth

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Re: Hello
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 01:13:46 PM »
What does the sun revolve around? That goes round in a circle as well

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Hello
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 02:08:37 PM »
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the sun that is thousands of times smaller than the earth

The planets are also pretty small.

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What does the sun revolve around? That goes round in a circle as well

The sun is caught in the celestial multiple system which the stars and moon are caught in.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 02:13:52 PM »
The measured diameter of Jupiter is 142984km (+-8km).  That's pretty big.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 08:01:53 PM »
The measured diameter of Jupiter is 142984km (+-8km).  That's pretty big.

Who made that measurement and how did they do it?

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 08:12:36 PM »
Who made that measurement and how did they do it?
How about we change things around a little bit. Why don't you prove it ISN'T 142984km diameter?

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Re: Hello
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 09:24:11 PM »
Who made that measurement and how did they do it?
How about we change things around a little bit. Why don't you prove it ISN'T 142984km diameter?
So he has to disprove something you say?

I say that i see all colors in the negative. Disprove it.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 09:41:48 PM »
you can't prove a negative.

He would have to actually go to Jupiter to prove that.

Re: Hello
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2008, 03:34:28 PM »
I don't see that Horatio has done anything wrong in asking Tom to disprove the figure he gave. Tom's statement that "the planets are pretty small" holds an implicit invitation to disprove, as well, since he probably knew the majority of people on this forum would disagree with that statement.

How did you measure the planets as "pretty small", Tom?

Also, what is "pretty small"? I guess even Horatio's figure for Jupiter's diameter is pretty small when compared to the size of the universe.


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Raist

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Re: Hello
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2008, 06:08:53 PM »
Well i'd like him to prove his figures. Does he know how NASA obtained them? Could he prove these figures correct? One person's findings in science is never enough. Others must verify them.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2008, 06:16:30 PM »
You're right. What I should've said is it was no worse than Tom just throwing out his assertion that the planets are "pretty small" :) What's fair for the goose should be fair for the gander.

They should both give some evidence and proof - Horatio shouldn't be any more (or less) bound to do so than Tom.

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divito the truthist

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Re: Hello
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2008, 05:25:55 AM »
Burden of Proof please.
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Raist

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Re: Hello
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2008, 05:53:16 AM »
I like saying things that are uninteresting and don't help the argument.


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divito the truthist

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Re: Hello
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2008, 06:04:11 AM »
More like, if people followed the BoP, they wouldn't have to argue over what to prove vs. all the other crap that's been spewed. I find that more uninteresting and useless in an argument than something established. Not that I expect anyone to use their brain though.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 07:02:31 AM »
Not that I expect anyone to use their brain though.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 04:05:56 PM »
More like, if people followed the BoP, they wouldn't have to argue over what to prove vs. all the other crap that's been spewed. I find that more uninteresting and useless in an argument than something established. Not that I expect anyone to use their brain though.
This isn't really an official debate or even a forum of scientific discussion. Burden of proof could be demanded of a FE'er for a figure he pulled out of his ass, or for a RE'er to make him realize he is blindly accepting a number he was told.


Sometimes a question gives an answer.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 07:15:37 PM »

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Re: Hello
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2008, 01:31:48 PM »
Tom Bishop is incapable of proof. Especially now he's been hacked by the conspiracy.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2008, 05:23:58 PM »
Wow, I wish you wouldn't do that.

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Re: Hello
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2008, 03:24:30 AM »
Lol it is my job. But seriously he is not fully working.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2008, 04:31:02 AM »
This isn't really an official debate or even a forum of scientific discussion.

Science isn't discussed here?
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