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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bill Gates Conspiracy
« on: June 30, 2023, 02:15:03 PM »
Since I do not know the number of the vaccine given to you, it would not be right for me to comment. only God knows the real secrets. According to the head nurse's statements, there are one of the 3 different numbers on the vaccine bottles.

1 placebo (empty)
2 mrna
3  mRNA+cancer (within 2 years)...

In this case, there is a 1/3 probability that nothing will happen.

We don't know what will happen with 1/3 probability

There is a 1/3 chance that you will get cancer within 2 years and some other cases still may happen like sudden hearth attack.
...it's not possible to get cancer from a vaccine. I'm not saying "But the vaccine company good!" I'm saying that you can't inject cancer into someone. if you injected a carcinogen it MIGHT work, but even asbestos wasn't sure shot. And what would be the point anyways? Kill you so they can't sell your data? What's the upshot?

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The Lounge / Re: Goodbye
« on: June 29, 2023, 07:59:19 AM »
I interpret the quote as life has no meaning.
Life doesn't have a meaning, so there's nothing you're meant to do. You can do anything you want, and you're not wrong just because the TVA says you were supposed to do something else (you might be wrong on a societal and moral level, just not an existential level.)

Everything dies, so live a good life. Pack it full, and be happy.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: What is a woman?
« on: June 28, 2023, 01:59:47 AM »
Why can't they just be happy with casual representation? Media is getting more and more diverse in sexuality and in sexual orientation, and parents can't exactly keep their kids in a bubble of media from before the gays invaded. Do they not get that it takes years to make anything, so results are delayed?

All I want is to have gay/asexual/whatever characters in media without that being their entire personality, and without creators trying to buy retroactive woke points.* That's it. We don't need to swaddle the kids in trans flags and make them watch a perfect balance of all possible people in the LGBTQIAWHATEVERTHEFUCK because who fucking cares. As long as the option is available and they aren't forced one way or the other, it shouldn't matter.

*See: Ed from Cowboy Bebop, every fucking Harry Potter character

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Covid-19 is caused a strain of SARS (caps for acronym, not for emphasis,) dubbed SARS-COV-2. That's the novel part. We've treated good ol' SARS for years, but a new strain has new complications and effects that we had to figure out in real time.

That's what you keep ignoring; Covid didn't hit like a truck because we had never seen anything like it, it hit like a truck because it spread quickly and we didn't quite know what the hell we were trying to fix. Doctors had to try imprecise methods to help patients, to narrow down the helpful ones, because it was better than doing nothing.

The original strain of SARS, hitting in 2003, had a death rate of 9%. The only reason it didn't cause a global shut down was that it wasn't nearly as good at spreading as the recent strain did.

Also, what is your deal with Fauci? Okay, yeah, he's a shitty dude. But he was essentially just a politician during COVID. A politician with a doctorate, but still a politician. Fauci didn't cause the pandemic, because if he did, it would've started in America, where he holds actual power.



About germs: Yeah. Not getting proper vitamins and nutrition makes your immune system weaker. But your immune system is a defense system, not a maintenance system. It doesn't matter how weak it is, you need to actually interact with germs. You use the example of isolating for a year, and say you'd still get sick. That's not true, as evidenced by immunocompromised people who live in sterile isolation. These are people with literally no immune system. By your logic, they should be getting violently ill constantly. But if the clean room is properly maintained, they don't.

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The Lounge / Re: Goodbye
« on: June 27, 2023, 04:25:07 PM »
How many topics are you going to post about this?
This is the second, third if you count Kill Me in AR.

Alexei, as someone who almost got hospitalized for having a sh*t ton of suicidal thoughts, I can tell you now that there's help. But no one can help you if you only tell the people on the internet who don't know enough about you TO help.

Why not skip the self harm and just go straight to the getting help stage? The odds of a successful suicide are low, and the odds a failed one scars are pretty high.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Measles Scam
« on: June 27, 2023, 10:45:42 AM »
Oh god, its Andrew Wakefield all over again.

Diseases mutate. There's a reason kids get a flu shot every year.

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What world’s Navy has s tactical advantage, can get ships on station faster, have better targeting and radar systems, is more efficient in the use of fuel because they treat the world as flat?

You really don't want to get into that one with me, because then you'd have to explain this:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2032069#msg2032069
Sorry, but what is a torsion field? That term isn't something I can find on the internet, so I want to hear your definition. (OK, I could find it, but only derogatorily. What's the point of only reading the opposition's sources?) Given it's the foundation of your issue with the equations and theories you present, I don't want to rebut without being fully informed.

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A mask is a muzzle? In what way? A muzzle prevents a dog from opening it's mouth. A mask doesn't do that, and it doesn't reduce the oxygen flow to your brain. It blocks particles, including germs. That's it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: June 24, 2023, 08:42:44 AM »
Here's the map that this site's library provides:

Thing is, the true map of FE is a divisive topic. South pole centered, North pole centered, bi pole, if the Earth is a disc with a dome whirling through space or a small region of an infinite plane, it's messy. So everyone has their own map, with little tweaks and adjustments to make it seem more plausible to them.

I personally would go with something akin to a bipole model. The idea that Antarctica is a giant ice wall just seems excessive to me, especially since it's not a very good wall, given that it meets the ocean at a shore.

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Sorry, WHO is stopping people from filming rockets? Like, how? They can't require an NDA, and it can't be security, because you can just watch and film rocket launches from far away. Where in the Atlantic do you think they're sending these rockets? If you know where, then anyone can get in a boat and head there during a rocket launch. They can't actually stop you, only advise you to leave the area.

And it's absolutely dangerous for planes. Whether or not you think rockets go to space, they at the very least are going as high as planes. But again, they don't have control circuitry to manually steer planes away. You could absolutely take a private plane up and right into the airspace, before or after the launch. You'll definitely be taken in by some kind of national force when you land, but you CAN fly above a rocket, or try to fly under it as it goes to find where (or if) it lands.

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The Lounge / Re: werepenguin time? WEREPENGUIN TIME!
« on: June 22, 2023, 07:17:38 PM »
I'm down for starting now or later.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: do you know why the earth is round ?
« on: June 22, 2023, 05:55:48 AM »
Cobra, please choose your words more carefully. Circle and sphere are not interchangeable, and this whole thread has a very different context knowing that by circle you meant sphere.

As for your actual argument, an infinite plane with a finite depth doesn't need to worry about any of that. It has infinite surface area to dissipate infinite heat. Your conclusion is one that has been made and rejected over and over again both here and on the other site. In fact, it's like the ONLY argument on the only site. You're not clever.

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Cobra, Einstein was a patent clerk. Does that mean he's a dense dumb boy who couldn't bash to rocks together to make fire without being told to?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: do you know why the earth is round ?
« on: June 21, 2023, 07:05:50 AM »
No, this is not the correct answer. Here is a hint : among all possible shapes the circle has a unique geometric property that no other shape has.
If you know the answer, just say it ffs. Name the unique geometric property and let everyone get on with actually debating instead of trying to read your mind.

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Flat Earth General / Re: flat earth economy
« on: June 20, 2023, 05:03:55 AM »
Wh-what? Almost all of these technologies work on a flat earth. A car works on a flat earth. Flat Earthers hold all kinds of jobs. If I recall correctly, someone on the other site is a pilot. The military is a government operation, so the higher ups are probably in on the inevitable FE conspiracy, and a lot of these things are just... things. Something isn't RE exclusive because it was built by someone who believes in RE. The economy wouldn't be any bigger or smaller on a Flat Earth.

Why are you making this argument again? This thread is the same as the last one you posted.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« on: June 19, 2023, 09:53:40 AM »
Looking at your paper's intro, you make a lot of incorrect assertions. The human mouth can only make a finite number of sounds, and so only a finite number of arrangements can exist. Additionally, the English language doesn't have infinite words. It COULD have many more than it does, but it's definitely not infinite. An infinite number of stars would absolutely wash out the sky; why wouldn't it? It's as if you have a sphere of stars around the earth, and more layers of stars behind it. The paper is full of stuff like this.
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...an infinite number of finite visible numbers have been humanly created, and that each one of these humanly created visible finite numbers could contain an infinite number of visible finite fractions and decimals.
Yeah. That's literally the first definition of Infinity in the Britannica definition you cite. You can place an infinite number of numbers on a number line. Decimals and fractions are numbers, and thus included in that definition.

But then I hit parts like this, and I just can't figure out what you mean.
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...infinite number of visible lawyers have so far been able to publish an infinite number of visible Federal, state, and local law books.
What does this even mean? There is a finite number of books printed. There is a finite number of lawyers registered or that have been registered. This quote doesn't make any sense.

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...there are no visible fixed points anywhere in a visible infinity.
This is just false. Get a graphing calculator program, and zoom out. Move left, move right. You'll never hit the edge. And yet, each point in that infinite grid is defined and fixed. (180028, 171) will always be at that same location.

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...according to the physicists, matter and empty space emerged simultaneously from out of the big bang explosion (Linde et al., 1994) that supposedly occurred 13.75 light years ago from today, give or take a billion or so light years either way: why could the first man and woman not have emerged simultaneously?
Because the big bang was a massive explosion of protons and neutrons and molecules and atoms. They wouldn't have emerged simultaneously because why would they? Why would the mess of protons and neutrons magically align to bring a human into existence? Even if they did, they'd immediately choke and die, or they'd instantly vaporize due to the pressure and heat.

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But they completely overlooked the fact that there was no empty space anywhere in the infinite visible Universe.
There is absolutely empty space in the universe. When you attach a vacuum pump to a closed cylinder and turn it on, what happens inside? The space empties. It is empty. In outer space, the space is more empty than on Earth. even if it's not truly empty, there's nothing between the molecules. Well, there IS something between them. Dark matter. So in a way you're right, but right after this you say dark matter doesn't exist. So what, then, is between the atoms and molecules?

I just skipped over the section about the Earth's infinite rotations which are infinitely unique due the infinite time they take. I cannot parse that section for the life of me. Infinity does not mean uncertainty, which I THINK is what you use it to mean. If that's the case, then I guess everything here is technically correct, but doesn't exactly equate to a flat earth. The bit about circular eyeballs is an interesting one, because it means that you're basing all of this off of... what? Speculation? You don't really have any proof for your claims other than what is obvious (to you, anyways.)


I think my thoughts on this paper can best be summed up by reading this line:
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If the earth were totally flat, it would be invisible and incapable of sustaining any visible form of life.
Like, what does this mean? A perfectly flat object wouldn't be invisible, it would be a mirror. And why does being flat make something incapable of supporting life? Everything before this is a paragraph about how visible things are visible?

Some of this is just accurate. The bit about how there's no way to precisely measure time is true; time is always approximate.

The conclusion just states "Everything is visible and unique. The universe is infinite, and also everyone is in their own." Which again, kind of, but not really, makes sense. What's the point here? What is your actual claim here?


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« on: June 19, 2023, 09:20:34 AM »
My essay PHILOSOPHICAL VISIBLE INFINITY, proves that the visible surface of the Earth is infinitely flat, and the visible Universe is not expanding and has never expanded, can be read at https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx...
Hey, you forgot to link to the actual paper. That's just the container website. Here, I got you.
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=124886

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Hey, so have you heard of Zoom? Skype? SMS? Discord? Slack? Twitter? Facebook? Reddit? Email? Any of the dozens of ways people kept in contact with loved ones? Fauci asked us to stay in a box with the door unlocked and a way to talk to anybody, anywhere, at pretty much anytime.

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The woke left have tried to erase photosynthesis, because it is inconvenient to the climate change "carbon dioxide is bad" narrative. They are lying about this too. Carbon dioxide is extremely good, and plants have loved that we burn things for centuries.

It is carbon monoxide that is bad. Most cars now have proper filters. But climate change crap is not about fixing problems but social control. Make actual engines convert CO -> CO2? Allow plants to have all the carbon dioxide they could want? Global warming! The planet is doomed! We need to mine rare earth minerals and make electric cars, even though they are less clean, less practical, and less green.
Yeah. Electric cars are a climate scam and we should all invest in public transit, but that's just my opinion.

As for the plants thing, plants aren't constantly doing photosynthesis. It's a method of storing energy, and a planet cell can just be full up, or not have the water, or something else along those lines. Even if they were, it's not an endless torrent of CO2 in. Plants can only use up CO2 so fast.

Except, that's irrelevant, because the thing that everyone forgets is that plants absorb CO2, but they also emit it. To get the energy back out of the glucose, they have to do cellular respiration, which dumps the CO2 back out into the atmosphere. That's why we exhale carbon dioxide. The reason plants aren't carbon neutral is that they get eaten by caterpillars and insects and humans and animals and then those organisms all do cellular respiration using the energy they got from eating the plant. The CO2 is still just cycling around.

I agree that the "woke left" is overzealous and out of their minds. They just say CO2 bad, and move on. The problem isn't that CO2 bad, it's that humans love destroying the plants that we then claim are fixing the issue. The Amazon is getting wiped off the face of the earth, and those trees aren't just popping back up somewhere. CO2 is certainly more manageable than CO, but that's only true if we don't keep, sometimes literally, burning all the management.

You can't bail out the ship if Jim throws the bucket overboard.

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The Lounge / Re: My eyes are broken
« on: June 16, 2023, 10:14:41 AM »
You have a RE mindset. That's why your eyes can't see objects flat. The computer screen is flat. If you force yourself to think it like a sphere, then you will inevitably have eye problems because of eye-brain mismatch.
That's not my point. The problem is that without glasses, my vision is a blurry mess (near and far, astigmatism.) So, any flat object has a hazy outline that kind of looks like it could be round or flat. I can feel the computer screen, but I can't feel the horizon.

With glasses on, the world distorts. And trust me, it can distort pretty heavily. 16:9 is approaching 4:3 for me, and objects get shifted toward the center of my vision. I can't trust that vision either, because round objects get distorted as they're pulled towards the center to look flat, and vice versa.

My mindset isn't RE. I do believe in RE, but I could absolutely be swayed. Just not by my own perceptions. Which is a problem, because the whole idea is to trust only my own research and my own perception. I love hiking. I've climbed up a bunch of mountains in my area, and the horizon looks rounded with my glasses on from the top. I can't really make it out without them.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Photos of a spherical Earth
« on: June 16, 2023, 10:08:50 AM »
I skimmed this video, and the camera never moved. While it could be a still camera from the shuttle, seriously what proof have we that it did not take place in a studio? All shots were at a single frame!
What proof do we have that it did? All we have is proof that it COULD have been filmed in a studio. There's no reason for the camera to move; there's no wind or animals or anything to move it.

As for proof it wasn't, we have the moon mirrors. We can look at parts of the solar system, and gain info about the moon itself, by bouncing lasers off a little mirror on the moon.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2020/laser-beams-reflected-between-earth-and-moon-boost-science/

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The Lounge / Re: My eyes are broken
« on: June 15, 2023, 05:58:55 AM »
Oh, now it's clear why you see the world curooked.
I mean, that is a genuine flaw with the FE mindset for me; I'm supposed to trust my perception, but my perceptions are either heavily distorted or heavily blurred at all times. How can I trust anything I see?

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The Lounge / My eyes are broken
« on: June 15, 2023, 04:52:26 AM »
Hey, so remember that tech support thread I made because I misread the bottom? And how I accidentally debated in Q&A because I thought I was in Debate?

I went to the optometrist yesterday, turns out my sphere was off by like 0.5 on both eyes. I'm getting new lenses next week. Do y'all have any eye-based woes?


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Technical Support / Re: The forum stats on the main page are broken
« on: June 14, 2023, 02:46:27 PM »
I think I need to update my eye prescription. Sorry!

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Technical Support / The forum stats on the main page are broken
« on: June 14, 2023, 09:09:04 AM »
Earlier, I made a post, and went back out to the main page. I wanted to check some forum stats, so I went down and saw this:

That's the thread I had just posted in! So, I click the link, and it brings me back to my own post, with nothing beneath it.

Weird. I went back to the forum stats several minutes later, and the same username was there. Clicking it brought me to a profile with 0 posts, despite the bottom of the page claiming they had just posted.

It looks like this issue is currently affecting all posts. Here's another one, with the post actually being from DataOverflow:

I'm not sure if it's malicious or random though. The one that got Data's post looks like another one of the hacker profiles that pops up in general , but stormtrooper is just a blank profile, registered yesterday. They have no links on their profile or anything.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Sacred Bibles or harmless prank?
« on: June 14, 2023, 07:44:08 AM »
I get what she did and why, but the fact that her defense is "it's just a prank bro" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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(And yes, I know you denounce gravity. I'm giving the full RE explanation here, so bear with me.)
Your RE explanation is not in line with the Q&A format. Only FE explanation should be made here. That's why your post has been reported.
Ah, my bad! I'll delete it myself. I thought I'd clicked on Debate, not Q&A.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« on: June 13, 2023, 11:47:19 PM »
Hey Scepti, please stop with the word-fuckery. Here's one of the dictionary definitions of vacuum:
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: a space absolutely devoid of matter
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: a space partially exhausted (as to the highest degree possible) by artificial means (such as an air pump)
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: a degree of rarefaction below atmospheric pressure
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vacuum
The second definition is the one being used by almost everyone here. I know you like redefining words for Denpressure, but redefining the word for an effect you say doesn't exist either way just seems petty.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: What is a woman?
« on: June 12, 2023, 02:49:34 AM »
Or a man fighting a woman.
That is an incredibly sexist view, based upon the sexist idea of all men being stronger than all women.
No. That's not what anyone here is saying. Here's what we're saying:
If you took a man and a woman, on average, the man would be stronger. The woman can be and often is stronger then the man, but the man is stronger then the woman more often then not. If you got the strongest man and woman on the planet, the man would be stronger.

We aren't claiming all woman are weaker then all men. Stop acting like we are.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« on: June 11, 2023, 12:17:24 AM »
Scepti, I've got a question: if vacuums don't exist, how do incandescent light bulbs work?

To recap: Current passes through a thin tungsten filament, making it so hot it glows. Under normal circumstances, it would instantly ignite (if you want proof, smash a light bulb open and turn it on.) However, the inside of a light bulb is a vacuum, so there's no oxygen or other gas to ignite with.

How does this work if there's no vacuum?

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