South Africa

It's actually more about how our cameras work on reflected light.

Just filter out reflected light. Problem solved.

Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can't be racists?

Are you randomly making up stuff now?

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 12, 2018, 02:46:30 PM

Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can't be racists?

Are you randomly making up stuff now?

No I was asking for clarification for what you said.  I honestly didn't understand it.

Quote from: User324 on March 12, 2018, 10:48:17 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 12, 2018, 02:46:30 PM

Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can't be racists?

Are you randomly making up stuff now?

No I was asking for clarification for what you said.  I honestly didn't understand it.

That's how it should be:
Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can be racists?

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 13, 2018, 05:04:16 AM

Quote from: User324 on March 12, 2018, 10:48:17 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 12, 2018, 02:46:30 PM

Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can't be racists?

Are you randomly making up stuff now?

No I was asking for clarification for what you said.  I honestly didn't understand it.

That's how it should be:
Africans didnt know other races so they can't be racists.  Nazis did know them and hated them so they can be racists?

Ok, if that's what your point was then fine.  It just didn't read that way to me in your earlier posts.  That's all.

Ok no problem.

Quote from: Master_Evar on March 12, 2018, 01:24:26 PM

Quote from: User324 on March 12, 2018, 01:06:56 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on March 12, 2018, 12:45:09 PM

The nazis very much thought they were, so this is what counts.

Yeah I disagree, I don't think what nazis think matters in any case.

If racism is discrimination based on perceived racial identities, and nazis discriminated against slavics and jews because they believed those people belonged to an inferior race, then how were nazis not racists?

If I think your mom is her own race and also I think she's ugly as hell, am I a racist? Or just a stupid retard?

You are both. They are not mutually exclusive, in fact I'd say that they are correlated

Quote from: User324 on March 12, 2018, 02:19:20 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on March 12, 2018, 01:24:26 PM

Quote from: User324 on March 12, 2018, 01:06:56 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on March 12, 2018, 12:45:09 PM

The nazis very much thought they were, so this is what counts.

Yeah I disagree, I don't think what nazis think matters in any case.

If racism is discrimination based on perceived racial identities, and nazis discriminated against slavics and jews because they believed those people belonged to an inferior race, then how were nazis not racists?

If I think your mom is her own race and also I think she's ugly as hell, am I a racist? Or just a stupid retard?

You are both. They are not mutually exclusive, in fact I'd say that they are correlated

I think the keyword was the 'just'.

I think the keyword was the 'just'.

Then you are not both racist and just a stupid retard, since that would be contradictory. You are both racist and a stupid retard, if you think that my mom is a separate race, and that she is ugly as hell because of that reason.

Quote from: User324 on March 14, 2018, 02:57:32 AM

I think the keyword was the 'just'.

Then you are not both racist and just a stupid retard, since that would be contradictory. You are both racist and a stupid retard, if you think that my mom is a separate race, and that she is ugly as hell because of that reason.

If you think calling one specific person a race is racism, you're dumb as fuck.

If you think calling one specific person a race is racism, you're dumb as fuck.

Well, when the word first appeared it was used to describe anyone that believes in the existence of human races. Given that human races do not exist (although obviously there are substantial genetic groups) one can still use the word that way. However, I was clear how I defined the word at the beginning of our discussion: discrimination based on perceived racial belonging, which I think most of us can agree on. If you're calling one specific person a race, and as a result of that starts treating them as a lesser human being, then you are racist.

Quote from: User324 on March 14, 2018, 10:11:03 AM

If you think calling one specific person a race is racism, you're dumb as fuck.

Well, when the word first appeared it was used to describe anyone that believes in the existence of human races. Given that human races do not exist (although obviously there are substantial genetic groups) one can still use the word that way. However, I was clear how I defined the word at the beginning of our discussion: discrimination based on perceived racial belonging, which I think most of us can agree on. If you're calling one specific person a race, and as a result of that starts treating them as a lesser human being, then you are racist.

Even if we are all the same colour, you will still have discrimination. You will still have gangs and tribes. I'm sure Africans, before they knew white people existed, used to shit on their 'own' people all the time. 'Oh, he belongs to 'x' tribe? Kill him!'

It's human nature.

Even if we are all the same colour, you will still have discrimination. You will still have gangs and tribes. I'm sure Africans, before they knew white people existed, used to shit on their 'own' people all the time. 'Oh, he belongs to 'x' tribe? Kill him!'

It's human nature.

Yeah. On the grand scale of things it's all down to xenophobia, fear and hatred towards other groups of people. How the groups are defined mostly don't matter, it's all quite bad.

Quote from: Master_Evar on March 14, 2018, 02:32:39 PM

Quote from: User324 on March 14, 2018, 10:11:03 AM

If you think calling one specific person a race is racism, you're dumb as fuck.

Well, when the word first appeared it was used to describe anyone that believes in the existence of human races. Given that human races do not exist (although obviously there are substantial genetic groups) one can still use the word that way. However, I was clear how I defined the word at the beginning of our discussion: discrimination based on perceived racial belonging, which I think most of us can agree on. If you're calling one specific person a race, and as a result of that starts treating them as a lesser human being, then you are racist.

Even if we are all the same colour, you will still have discrimination. You will still have gangs and tribes. I'm sure Africans, before they knew white people existed, used to shit on their 'own' people all the time. 'Oh, he belongs to 'x' tribe? Kill him!'

It's human nature.

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

The Rwanda genocide was a genocode of Africans by Africans.

Also Australia NO!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/14/dutton-considers-fast-track-visas-for-white-south-african-farmers

Lol good work cobber.

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

Almost no one is.

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

Almost no one is.

I think I am.

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 16, 2018, 01:37:32 PM

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

Almost no one is.

I think I am.

I wouldn't know, but I was thinking more in terms of cultures.

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 01:39:55 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on March 16, 2018, 01:37:32 PM

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

Almost no one is.

I think I am.

I wouldn't know, but I was thinking more in terms of cultures.

I identify as my own culture tho.

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

We've been through this already. All the largest financers, profit takers and slave ship owners in the trans atlantic slave trade were ethnically Jewish.

People see this fact as anti-semitic somehow.

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

We've been through this already. All the largest financers, profit takers and slave ship owners in the trans atlantic slave trade were ethnically Jewish.

People see this fact as anti-semitic somehow.

Not true,  the Jews were not over represented in financing/running  the slave trade any more than anyone else.  We settled this already.  Don't keep repeating rubbish.

Wrong.

The percentage of jews in the slave trade made the most profit and owned the most ships.

I am sorry you find it upsetting.

Let's quickly check Jewish views on slavery. I am sure they are totally against it.

Oh-oh my.



Well, at least I am sure the Talmud doesnt support this view.

Oh-oh no...

Wrong.

The percentage of jews in the slave trade made the most profit and owned the most ships.

I am sorry you find it upsetting.

Citation from a reputable source is what's required, not repeating unfounded assertions.  You should know better.

I have factual citations, you call me an anti semite and make an appeal to emotion.

A stalemate it seems...

Name Of Slave Ships And Their Owners:
 
The 'Abigail-Caracoa' - Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy, Jacob Crown
Isaac Levy and Nathan Simpson
 
The'Nassau' - Moses Levy
 
The 'Four Sisters' - Moses Levy
 
The 'Anne' & The 'Eliza' - Justus Bosch and John Abrams
 
The 'Prudent Betty' - Henry Cruger and Jacob Phoenix
 
The 'Hester' - Mordecai and David Gomez
 
The 'Elizabeth' - Mordecai and David Gomez
 
The 'Antigua' - Nathan Marston and Abram Lyell
 
The 'Betsy' - Wm. De Woolf
 
The 'Polly' - James De Woolf
 
The 'White Horse' - Jan de Sweevts
 
The 'Expedition' - John and Jacob Roosevelt
 
The 'Charlotte' - Moses and Sam Levy and Jacob Franks
 
The 'Franks' - Moses and Sam Levy

Name Of Slave Ships And Their Owners:
 
The 'Abigail-Caracoa' - Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy, Jacob Crown
Isaac Levy and Nathan Simpson
 
The'Nassau' - Moses Levy
 
The 'Four Sisters' - Moses Levy
 
The 'Anne' & The 'Eliza' - Justus Bosch and John Abrams
 
The 'Prudent Betty' - Henry Cruger and Jacob Phoenix
 
The 'Hester' - Mordecai and David Gomez
 
The 'Elizabeth' - Mordecai and David Gomez
 
The 'Antigua' - Nathan Marston and Abram Lyell
 
The 'Betsy' - Wm. De Woolf
 
The 'Polly' - James De Woolf
 
The 'White Horse' - Jan de Sweevts
 
The 'Expedition' - John and Jacob Roosevelt
 
The 'Charlotte' - Moses and Sam Levy and Jacob Franks
 
The 'Franks' - Moses and Sam Levy

A list of ships and owners is not a citation,  if you want to make a claim you need documentation, 

In any event you made a few mistakes,  the De Woolf's are episcopalian not Jewish,  not only that but the Atlantic slave trade involved around 16,000 ships,  I'd hardly regard a dozen ships as a significant number. 

Quote from: User324 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: disputeone on March 16, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

The slave industry was alive and well in Africa before white men ever landed on it's shores.

Oh nice so white men are innocent. Good.

We've been through this already. All the largest financers, profit takers and slave ship owners in the trans atlantic slave trade were ethnically Jewish.

People see this fact as anti-semitic somehow.

No.  Some were, but not all.  Trying to claim so is anti-Semitic.

>The largest.
Not everyone.

Lol.

Let me try a quick question for lulz, well two.

Are jews over represented in international finance?

Is it anti-semitic to ask?