South Africa

Even by the minitrue Australias colonization was not a genocide.

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Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part. The hybrid word "genocide" is a combination of the Greek word génos ("race, people") and the Latin suffix -cide ("act of killing").[1] The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".[2][3]

The term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe;[4][5] it has been applied to the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide and many other mass killings including the genocide of indigenous peoples in the Americas, the Greek genocide, the Indonesian killings of 1965–66, the Assyrian genocide, the Serbian genocide, the Holodomor, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, the Guatemalan genocide, and, more recently, the Bosnian genocide, the Kurdish genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.[a]

True fact: Aboriginal genocide has zero results when you search it on Google. Try. So it obviously isn't a thing.

Boydster was saying that because some people (communists) incorrectly call it a genocide on goolag then it has to be a genocide.

Again, the logical fallacy is "appeal to emotion."

It would make sense if they were overrepresented. They were overrepresented at trade, and trade included slaves too. That doesn't really say anything.

Quote from: disputeone on February 22, 2018, 02:27:48 PM

Even by the minitrue Australias colonization was not a genocide.

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Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part. The hybrid word "genocide" is a combination of the Greek word génos ("race, people") and the Latin suffix -cide ("act of killing").[1] The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".[2][3]

The term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe;[4][5] it has been applied to the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide and many other mass killings including the genocide of indigenous peoples in the Americas, the Greek genocide, the Indonesian killings of 1965–66, the Assyrian genocide, the Serbian genocide, the Holodomor, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, the Guatemalan genocide, and, more recently, the Bosnian genocide, the Kurdish genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.

It doesn't mention aboriginals.

Where else is this happening currently?
Oh
Only in South Africa.

>Links to article citing massacres.
>Claims it cites genocide.
>Mfw Rayzor.

Quote from: disputeone on February 22, 2018, 09:01:13 PM

Where else is this happening currently?
Oh
Only in South Africa.

No, that's wrong. But who cares? They "only want their land". If they don't want to be second class citizens in an African country, they can go back to Europe. Your logic.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on February 22, 2018, 09:31:50 PM

Quote from: disputeone on February 22, 2018, 02:27:48 PM

Even by the minitrue Australias colonization was not a genocide.

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Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part. The hybrid word "genocide" is a combination of the Greek word génos ("race, people") and the Latin suffix -cide ("act of killing").[1] The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".[2][3]

The term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe;[4][5] it has been applied to the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide and many other mass killings including the genocide of indigenous peoples in the Americas, the Greek genocide, the Indonesian killings of 1965–66, the Assyrian genocide, the Serbian genocide, the Holodomor, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, the Guatemalan genocide, and, more recently, the Bosnian genocide, the Kurdish genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.

It doesn't mention aboriginals.

Exactly. In the minitrues list of genocides Australian colonisation is not listed. Most likely because they can't apply the term Genocide to Australain colonisation.

That doesnt stop people screaming genocide at Australians. I'm very proud of the great country we've built in less than three hundred years. I do agree that killing is wrong but as stated in Rayzors links it was war. People die in wars.

Unfortunately when a more technologically advanced race wages a war on a less technologically advanced race the result is usually a very high casualty rate on only one side.

Like the war on terror for example, At what point do we call the war on terror a genocide?

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394

It was a war for territory.
As I said before wars used to be fought for territory and not international bankers. It's hard to get your head around these days.

Quote from: boydster on February 22, 2018, 08:22:14 PM

True fact: Aboriginal genocide has zero results when you search it on Google. Try. So it obviously isn't a thing.

It does, actually.

According to Lemkin, colonization was in itself "intrinsically genocidal". He saw this genocide as a two-stage process, the first being the destruction of the indigenous population's way of life. In the second stage, the newcomers impose their way of life on the indigenous group.

I never said they did no wrong. I said it was wrong to call it genocide. It is wrong to call it genocide because the definition of genocide doesn't apply.

From your link.

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According to Lemkin, colonization was in itself "intrinsically genocidal". He saw this genocide as a two-stage process, the first being the destruction of the indigenous population's way of life. In the second stage, the newcomers impose their way of life on the indigenous group.

This is semantics. If this is true then whites becoming a smaller and smaller minority in western countries is genocide. I know you don't believe that.

colonization was in itself "intrinsically genocidal". He saw this genocide as a two-stage process, the first being the destruction of the indigenous population's way of life. In the second stage, the newcomers impose their way of life on the indigenous group.

Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part.

Where else is this happening currently?
Oh
Only in South Africa.

Quote from: disputeone on February 22, 2018, 09:01:13 PM

Where else is this happening currently?
Oh
Only in South Africa.

What?!?

Literally millions of people are forcibly displaced from their land ever year.  It's a particular problem in South America.   India and China aren't so good either.  Just a random selection.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3233710/Soaring-suicide-rates-murder-forced-live-roadside-scraps-one-Amazon-s-oldest-tribes-faces-wiped-ranchers-scaring-land-silent-genocide.html
http://crowdvoice.org/evictionsindia
http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2052476/forced-evictions-are-destroying-society-china-and-elsewhere

not white. Doesn't count.

If we use the first definition that's fine, all mass migration from a different race or religion is genocide. Australias colonization certainly counts.

I disagree with that interpretation of genocide however.

Quote from: FalseProphet on February 23, 2018, 01:08:59 AM

Quote from: disputeone on February 22, 2018, 09:01:13 PM

Where else is this happening currently?
Oh
Only in South Africa.

No, that's wrong. But who cares? They "only want their land". If they don't want to be second class citizens in an African country, they can go back to Europe. Your logic.

I said that in the OP. We can resettle the Boer in western countries if South Africa wants to kick out all the whites.

I'm 100% sure it will be a unparalelled paradise within 200 years without white opression holding them back.