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Suggestions & Concerns / Sad to see.

« on: October 16, 2024, 01:45:53 PM »

It saddens me that I have noted many snide/sarcastic/out right nasty replies to most of the posted statements and/or questions on this site. Disagreement should lead to debate not name calling, as this does not show anything but the inability of respondents to demonstrate their self control and ability to show their side of a discussion.
In truth, almost all learning and knowledge comes to us second hand from teachers, politicians, scientists, etc. There is only one fact that you can actually know and that is one which you have personally experienced. I see grass, I can touch grass, I "know" grass exists. I can see the sky and the stars at night but having not been "up there" I can not say that they absolutely exist. Therefore, fighting and name calling over abstracts seems wasteful. Disagree with me, as you will, but please keep it civil. Thank You.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Are Stars real?

« on: October 15, 2024, 06:48:50 AM »

Wise, I found the answer to my question on another post by DataOverFlow 2022, he/she showed photos of clouds.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Yes, curvature can be measured and modeled as proven by Blackpool Photo

« on: October 15, 2024, 06:45:05 AM »

Idea: Take a laser that they supposedly use to bounce off the Moon and place it on the New Jersey Shore atop a ten foot above sea level tower. Go to Europe and place a target on another ten foot above sea level tower on that first shore line on the same latitude. If the Earth is curved the laser will miss the mark by miles high. If the Earth is flat, but using the Flat Earth Map, the light should hit the Antarctic wall at a ten foot height missing all land masses since latitude lines follow a round Earth. Just a thought.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: They've lied to the world about the stars

« on: October 14, 2024, 06:22:12 PM »

Now, I am by no means a “Flat Earther” but, that said, I have been considering a strange observation.
As we stand on the Earth and look at our Sun, it appears about the size of a golf ball held at arm’s length, while being some 93 million miles distant and about some 864,000 miles across. If we do the same from Mars, the Sun appears smaller than the size of a ping pong ball at arm’s length and from Jupiter, it is about the size of a pea.
The supposedly largest Star presently known is UY Scuti, which, if placed in our solar system, would fill the inner solar system out to about the orbit of Jupiter. Therefore, its diameter is approximately 1,000,000,000 (one billion) miles.
Now, using the above idea/sample, if the Sun (diameter 840,000 miles) looks like a pea from 142,000,000 miles (Mars) then we can postulate that UY Scuti would look approximately the size of a basketball from Pluto, some 3,186,000,000 (3 billion one hundred and eighty six million) miles distant.
We look at the night sky and we see a blanket of Stars, some large, some small, some close and some very distant, but we see them with the naked eye.
Noting the above, we would not be able to see our own Sun from Pluto but we can see stars of relatively the same size from ones, tens, hundreds or thousands of light years away.
A “pix” taken by Voyager shows all planets and the Sun. These are greatly magnified pix and still the Sun is only barely visible from the approximate 4 billion mile distance. This assumes that there actually were Voyager space crafts.
However, if “they” wanted to prove that other stars were real why show our own star almost invisible from a mere 4 billion miles but the Universe full of equal sized stars being easily visible with the naked eye?
Just throwing it out there.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Are Stars real?

« on: October 14, 2024, 04:26:02 AM »

Dear Wise, Thank you for the feedback. I happened on some "Flat Earth" posts and, while my brain is old it still (Thankfully) questions inconsistencies.

Here is a thought on how to possibly answer the “Flat Earth” theory. The Sun/Moon/etc. are all constantly above the Flat Earth. Their size varies by their distance from the observer (one point perspective), this was posted by someone explaining why the Sun does not set but simply goes out of sight at a distance. Now, from the sea shore looking East over the open ocean at just before Sunrise please note if the top or the bottom of the most distant cloud is darker than the opposite side of the cloud. Since the Sun on a “Flat Earth” is always above the cloud layer then the bottom of the cloud should always be dark but if there is a “Globe” Earth then the underside of the cloud should be illuminated as the Sun comes around the globe. Your thoughts?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Are Stars real?

« on: October 13, 2024, 06:03:04 AM »

Now, I am by no means a “Flat Earther” but, that said, I have been considering a strange observation.
As we stand on the Earth and look at our Sun, it appears about the size of a golf ball held at arm’s length, while being some 93 million miles distant and about some 864,000 miles across. If we do the same from Mars, the Sun appears smaller than the size of a ping pong ball at arm’s length and from Jupiter, it is about the size of a pea.
The supposedly largest Star presently known is UY Scuti, which, if placed in our solar system, would fill the inner solar system out to about the orbit of Jupiter. Therefore, its diameter is approximately 1,000,000,000 (one billion) miles.
Now, using the above idea/sample, if the Sun (diameter 840,000 miles) looks like a pea from 142,000,000 miles (Mars) then we can postulate that UY Scuti would look approximately the size of a basketball from Pluto, some 3,186,000,000 (3 billion one hundred and eighty six million) miles distant.
We look at the night sky and we see a blanket of Stars, some large, some small, some close and some very distant, but we see them with the naked eye.
Noting the above, we would not be able to see our own Sun from Pluto but we can see stars of relatively the same size from ones, tens, hundreds or thousands of light years away.
A “pix” taken by Voyager shows all planets and the Sun. These are greatly magnified pix and still the Sun is only barely visible from the approximate 4 billion mile distance. This assumes that there actually were Voyager space crafts.
However, if “they” wanted to prove that other stars were real why show our own star almost invisible from a mere 4 billion miles but the Universe full of equal sized stars being easily visible with the naked eye?
Just throwing it out there.