New & Curious

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New & Curious
« on: August 27, 2016, 06:04:38 AM »
I'm new here & curious about flat Earth believers.

I've read some things & seen a lot of youtube videos, but I have never seen a scientific paper in a peer reviewed journal describing evidence that contradicts the globe Earth heliocentric model & supports a flat Earth theory.

Can anyone point me towards such a paper or papers? If not can any flat Earth believer explain why they believe in a flat Earth in the complete absence of any scientific evidence that supports their belief. 

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2016, 06:26:05 AM »
90% here dont believe in flat earth.

The few that do are either trolls or retarded, you cannot discuss with them.
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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 06:48:00 AM »
 No scientific papers but they have special board on this forum Flat Earth Information Repository
 And of course "Earth Not a Globe"
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2016, 12:07:28 PM »
If you follow the discussions on this forum you will notice that flat earthers reject any and all evidence that disproves their hypothosis. Including their own eyes.

They operate from the assumption that they are right about the earth beying flat, and that therefor 'logically'  everything that does not support their view is inacutate.

This makes any and all debate futile if you want to convince anyone with reason.

But the upside is that by arguing against their increasingly lunatic views ('innertia does not exist', 'gravity is caused by air', 'pinguins are man-made') you do learn more about thr actual real science of it all.

Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 12:58:39 PM »
If you follow the discussions on this forum you will notice that flat earthers reject any and all evidence that disproves their hypothosis. Including their own eyes.

They operate from the assumption that they are right about the earth beying flat, and that therefor 'logically'  everything that does not support their view is inacutate.

This makes any and all debate futile if you want to convince anyone with reason.

But the upside is that by arguing against their increasingly lunatic views ('innertia does not exist', 'gravity is caused by air', 'pinguins are man-made') you do learn more about thr actual real science of it all.

I'd add that being here gives you a good laugh every now and then.
Plus, it's an intellectual challenge to prove round earth and disprove flat earth. If you hear about flat earth for the first time, you might think "wow those guys do have some points". But thinking about it a little bit further makes it easy to disprove it.

Additionally, I find it psychologically interesting why and what people do believe in a flat earth.
Also its kind of a "strech of your boundarys" to try to imagine completely different views of our world and try to understand those.

Last but not least: You can satisfy your need of trolling ;)


If you try to seriously argue with flat earther, you'll quickly see: It doesn't work.
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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 03:13:36 PM »
New here just wanted to ask a question.
We live in a 3 dimensional universe. Easy to confirm u can walk forwards. Left and right. And also jump up and down. You can also dig down into the earth. So if the earth is flat and 2 dimensional. What makes the earth so special to be an exception to the mathematical princle of our 3 dimensional universe? Imagine a square (which is 2 dimensional). If you 'blow it up' it will become a circle. Now imagine a cube (which is 3 dimensional) and 'blow it up' it becomes a sphere. If anyone has any facts or opinions to dispute this simple math. Please reply and provide me with any flat earth supportive information please as i am curious.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 03:22:39 PM »
I assume that when FEers say the Earth is flat they mean that it is not round, that all the known continents and oceans are on the same flat plane.   But not necessarily that the flat earth is shallow.  It might all be a flat plane but it might be on a land formation that is ten or a hundred or maybe a thousand miles deep.  They're sort of unclear of what's below the surface and how far down the ground goes.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 04:02:11 PM »
I assume that when FEers say the Earth is flat they mean that it is not round, that all the known continents and oceans are on the same flat plane.   But not necessarily that the flat earth is shallow.  It might all be a flat plane but it might be on a land formation that is ten or a hundred or maybe a thousand miles deep.  They're sort of unclear of what's below the surface and how far down the ground goes.

Turtles.  All the way down.
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 04:21:51 PM »
New here just wanted to ask a question.
We live in a 3 dimensional universe. Easy to confirm u can walk forwards. Left and right. And also jump up and down. You can also dig down into the earth. So if the earth is flat and 2 dimensional. What makes the earth so special to be an exception to the mathematical princle of our 3 dimensional universe? Imagine a square (which is 2 dimensional). If you 'blow it up' it will become a circle. Now imagine a cube (which is 3 dimensional) and 'blow it up' it becomes a sphere. If anyone has any facts or opinions to dispute this simple math. Please reply and provide me with any flat earth supportive information please as i am curious.

The earth isn't two dimensional. It's an infinite plane on the surface, but it has depth.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 04:38:29 PM »
Shalom and welcome to the forum.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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Re: New & Curious
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 05:53:42 PM »
Imagine a square (which is 2 dimensional). If you 'blow it up' it will become a circle.

In a two-dimensional universe it would never be seen as anything other than a continuous curve.


Now imagine a cube (which is 3 dimensional) and 'blow it up' it becomes a sphere.

If you "blow up" a dog turd you get a spherical turd.
If you step on it you get a flat turd.


If anyone has any facts or opinions to dispute this simple math.

You have not presented any math.