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Why do you support donald trump

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23940 on: February 14, 2025, 06:55:33 AM »
Oh good, trite aphorisms.

Homogeneity is conformity. There is no reason that people should be like granules of milk.

But it figures a sheeple would believe that all of a certain grouping need to act the same.

I like Mariah Carey. She's hot and her music is pretty good. I also like anime. We don't eat "white people food". I don't have to think or act like someone tells me.

Btw, homogenous culture is the problem here. These blacks often come from broken homes where they are raised by a grandma because their mom is on drugs, and their dad is in prison. If you thinks homogeneity (conformity) is the solution, the reason for the crime is that as adults, they tend to repeat the cycle.
It would actually benefit lowering of crime if a few black men stopped acting like that, went to church, worked hard, and created responsible families. Blaming your bad choices on your ethnicity is no way to go through life.

This is why Biden sucked, and the idiots who follow him are the worst sort of dupes. I received in the mail a letter saying that because I was trans, I should be voting for Kamala. Sorry, but even if Trump is less than sympathetic, I would rather not live my life as a grouping.

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Is he the result of  multigenerational inbreeding?

On the contrary, I am capable of thinking for myself, unlike people here who are dumb as posts, and need to have simple concepts re-explained.

 "Because you're... you should think this." What nonsense!

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That's literally what you are doing right now, with this post. Why don't you ask the actual Norwegian in this thread?

Possibly because true to the topic of this post, you and the group of people who bandwagoned me all think the same.

I will wager that you failed history class, and think your own country is socialist, having not been explained otherwise by more learned people.

 I happen to know my country isn't as capitalist as articles like the above seemed to think. How do I know this? Because I have been to China in around 2005 or so. And you know? They had street stalls all over the place. They were communist maybe in terms of government, but they wisely understood that they should be economically capitalist, and not disrupt the markets with senseless licenses.
You? You believe lies about your country. No, it doesn't matter what your nationality is. That would be like saying "Because you are not black, you can never understand what it is like to be black." Following up with expecting me to apologize for thinking that I as a white person could ever know black history. Sorry, that's horseshit. You can read in a book about what happened to blacks. You can also observe by working with them what their home lives are like. Same with women, treating being female as a sort of impenetrable mystique. Yeah no. I've waited in women's bathroom lines. I've worn women's clothes. There is not that I couldn't understand, having seen the same behavior from women as women. Human beings possess empathy. But living even a few moments like another person, they can understand them.

Everyone of English descent has some Viking ancestry. I have Germanic and English ancestors. Yeah, if we're going by the fallacious nothing that all people of an ethnicity should think a certain way, then I have as much Norwegian in my blood as anyone, and I am qualified to say that it's not a socialist country.

But that's a stupid and racist way of thinking.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23941 on: February 14, 2025, 07:32:04 AM »
https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07&ref=404media.co

Doge has really bad security.  And we're trusting them with America's transaction data?
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23942 on: February 14, 2025, 11:00:56 AM »
"Meet the U.S. Government
Trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy."

I dunno about you, but when I hear the word bureaucracy, I get an immediate connotation of extreme inefficiency and disorganization. So this page made me laugh.

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23943 on: February 14, 2025, 02:14:51 PM »
"Meet the U.S. Government
Trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy."

I dunno about you, but when I hear the word bureaucracy, I get an immediate connotation of extreme inefficiency and disorganization. So this page made me laugh.

Inefficient and disorganized is kinda the point.
The bigger the demographic, the more checks, balances, and red tape you need to satisfy the various groups.
Plus,a government that does things quickly and efficiently is likely a dictatorship ruling with an iron fist.
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WISHTOLAUGH

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23944 on: February 14, 2025, 09:50:00 PM »
LD prefers his beast to be slow and heavy of foot.

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23945 on: February 14, 2025, 10:18:44 PM »
LD prefers his beast to be slow and heavy of foot.
If you have to run, you're not powerful.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23946 on: February 16, 2025, 06:25:05 PM »
"Meet the U.S. Government
Trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy."

I dunno about you, but when I hear the word bureaucracy, I get an immediate connotation of extreme inefficiency and disorganization. So this page made me laugh.

Inefficient and disorganized is kinda the point.
The bigger the demographic, the more checks, balances, and red tape you need to satisfy the various groups.
Plus,a government that does things quickly and efficiently is likely a dictatorship ruling with an iron fist.

This is where you're wrong.

Dictatorships are highly inefficient.

Why? Well...


Think of music like analogy (I know you guys have trouble with analogy, but please try). Popular music to tyrannize the masses with the likes of Taylor Swift and Katy Perry, must take few risks.  Meanwhile, the music of the 50s and 80s had very few restrictions to experimentation, which is why they had some pretty weird stuff. The less rules, the more progress and invention, and the more you can do with less.
Dictatorships are not just one person seizing power. Rather, one dictator typically has to answer to the fifteen people who rigged elections to get them in power. They don't get their money, they stop telling the news that their president is not senile, and in more democratic countries they are simply voted out, where in less democratic countries... well like Mussolini.  So, they don't take risks. They go for the least inventive and most direct way to rule and make money. Unfortunately for them, this tends to make it obvious that people are being oppressed, and those being ruled tend to dig in their heels.


Here's an example of quickly and efficiently. The overpacked Big Agro factory chickens are now sick, resulting in raised price for eggs. What would be a quick and efficient way to solve this problem? Simple! Have small farmers raise chickens.  These chickens will supply local areas with eggs, resulting in greatly reduced prices, instead of depending on one or two people to ship across the country or whatever. No tyranny required, just good old fashioned return to farming.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23947 on: February 16, 2025, 07:03:40 PM »
LD prefers his beast to be slow and heavy of foot.
If you have to run, you're not powerful.

Bears are powerful and can run speed a human



However
The better analogy should be hvac hunting swings:

The reaction time between the thermostat and the furnace should be slow.
Because theres a slug of air that is still in transport.
A sustem that reacts too fast will have wild swings and never maintain stabilty.

That said, an inherent flaw will resilt in a maintained discomfort temperature that requires review and analysis - not turn off the system wih no overhaul plan.

Because then people end up dying.

You cant run a country like a business.
Because people die when you stop services.
There are no "stock buy backs" and you cant layoff whole cities.
It doesnt exist.

Govt exists to service the majority and rights exist to protect the minority.



Libertarian morons.

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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23948 on: February 16, 2025, 07:38:54 PM »
If you have to run, you're not powerful.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23949 on: February 17, 2025, 07:35:06 AM »
LD prefers his beast to be slow and heavy of foot.
If you have to run, you're not powerful.

Bears are powerful and can run speed a human



However
The better analogy should be hvac hunting swings:

The reaction time between the thermostat and the furnace should be slow.
Because theres a slug of air that is still in transport.
A sustem that reacts too fast will have wild swings and never maintain stabilty.

That said, an inherent flaw will resilt in a maintained discomfort temperature that requires review and analysis - not turn off the system wih no overhaul plan.

Because then people end up dying.

You cant run a country like a business.
Because people die when you stop services.
There are no "stock buy backs" and you cant layoff whole cities.
It doesnt exist.

Govt exists to service the majority and rights exist to protect the minority.



Libertarian morons.

Omg, you SUPPORT the lumbering hulking bureaucracy that cost many Americans their freedom and massively inflated the economy.

Inflation is not a good thing. It doesn't mean you make more money, idiot. When you are paid $15 an hour but crap bread costs $4, this means for an hour of your life, you can buy a loaf of bad bread, processed cheese, some milk, and processed meat. When hotel prices inflate, $35 to stay at a hotel for a night becomes $105, and even working 8 hrs, you're struggling not to be homeless or having to decide between shelter and food.

This is the reality for people living in small towns. The people in the cities have jobs like these.

Now, I like Finnster, but he (I'm not misgendering him, he  goes by male pronouns) makes sometimes hundreds or thousands a minute, while people down the block from me probably work two jobs.

So when it takes six weeks for them to process my passport, and this is with each government employee they have hired being paid to drag their feet, this is a bad thing. When there is an entire department focused on ensuring "equity" this is a bad thing (for another thing, we need EQUALITY not equity).

I draw your attention to the upper right, and lower left pictures. Equity in reality doesn't help anyone any better than just doing nothing (upper left). It would far easier and cheaper to just abolish the laws creating a barrier. For example, if you asked Supreme Court if dress codes were constitutional, and found out that poor people and minorities tend to get the shaft,

and that the right to free expression is covered under the 1st Amendment, suddenly, they can set a loose uniform, but cannot enforce penalties. This means, if the uniform was long navy slacks and a white button-up shirt for males and female have a white blouse and navy plaid skirt with white knee-highs and penny loafers, people too poor to afford the uniform can wear the Wal-Mart vert (white tee shirt and black sweatpants or jeans or whatever), crossdressers or LGBT ppl can decide the women's uniform is quite snazzy but the men's is drab. People who are too tall or fat can't be penalized if their uniform doesn't quite work. Could you still claim certain styles of dress are disruptive or dangerous? Maybe. If someone came in looking like a pimp, had a green outfit and a sword tied to their back and answered questions with "Haaaah! Yah!" or if someone showed waaaay too much skin. But you've removed the barrier, meaning you've upheld their right WITHOUT creating an inefficient department to do it. This means tax savings that go back into the public's pocket. They in turn can maybe spend on better food and clothes on their kids.

All this bureaucracy made people poor and in some towns homeless. They try to send their kids to better schools, hoping for a better life, but in fact, the all of the system screwed everyone over.

Here's a politician that I stand behind. And she happens to be one of our Senate members in my state.  Danica Roem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Roem

A heavy metal musician, openly transgender, and she doesn't do identity politics but insists "identity shouldn't be a big deal." If I have a dungeon in my basement, or I'm bisexual and polygamous, or like to wear animal costumes... in what way do we need laws for or against this?

I was told at a Pridefest that "no such thing" for me to be trans and Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Scott
Lauren Scott won the Republican nomination for Nevada in June 2014. Althea Garrison won for Massachusetts House (though she was not openly trans at the time). In New Jersey, Jennifer Williams serves as councilwoman. Jordan Evans serves as Board of Trustees of the Public Library. None of these identify as Democrats. There are more Democrats than Republicans as such, but this is because Democrats have convinced them they have to be.  "Stay on the plantation. We're the only ones that can take care of you," says the abuser. No thanks, I'll look after myself.

Government rules best when it ISN'T a massive beast, a Leviathan that runs people's lives. You are defending tyranny, not freedom.

Freedom requires that someone actually do some pruning of all the tangled vines of government. And if you think they are a tyrant because of that, this says more about you than them. I support Trump (Republican) and Roem (Democrat). What I don't support is statism. Mencius, an ancient Chinese philosopher was once called upon to look upon a park that a ruler built. He quickly realized it was an attractive nuisance, for meant that the forests where the homeless slept and hunted were gone, replaced by an attractive nuisance, where the poor were punished if they stayed too long.

Less laws, not more. Less taxes, not more.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23950 on: February 17, 2025, 12:50:20 PM »
No

I dont

Read it again where the temperature is off and a maintained discomfort is present aka 20yrs of stagnated min wsge, predatory "legal" industries etcetc...


Oh wait
Im talking tot he king of misunderstanding....



Moron.




What freedoms is MAGA giving you?
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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23951 on: February 17, 2025, 02:11:59 PM »
Omg, you SUPPORT the lumbering hulking bureaucracy that cost many Americans their freedom and massively inflated the economy.
A hulking bureaucracy may be a bad thing, but blindly hacking and slashing at it to the point that you're unwittingly cutting vital services isn't the way to tackle it.  By the way, when did Congress establish DOGE, confirm Musk as its head and authorize it to make such drastic cuts to programs and personnel?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23952 on: February 17, 2025, 03:14:31 PM »
"Meet the U.S. Government
Trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy."

I dunno about you, but when I hear the word bureaucracy, I get an immediate connotation of extreme inefficiency and disorganization. So this page made me laugh.

Inefficient and disorganized is kinda the point.
The bigger the demographic, the more checks, balances, and red tape you need to satisfy the various groups.
Plus,a government that does things quickly and efficiently is likely a dictatorship ruling with an iron fist.

This is where you're wrong.

Dictatorships are highly inefficient.

Why? Well...
[Video no one watched]

Think of music like analogy (I know you guys have trouble with analogy, but please try). Popular music to tyrannize the masses with the likes of Taylor Swift and Katy Perry, must take few risks.  Meanwhile, the music of the 50s and 80s had very few restrictions to experimentation, which is why they had some pretty weird stuff. The less rules, the more progress and invention, and the more you can do with less.
The 50s?  The invention of The Devil's music? Really?  You seem to have an odd idea of restrictions.  It was heavily restricted and often times blocked for being evil. It was the sheer volume of the youth that pushed it through.  Hell, Elvis's dancing was too sexualized for the times.  What you had wasn't less restrictions, it was a drive for change.  Which happens every generation.
The others are marketing.  Give the masses what they want in the same way the last popular thing was.  This is just marketing assholes with too much data.

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Dictatorships are not just one person seizing power. Rather, one dictator typically has to answer to the fifteen people who rigged elections to get them in power. They don't get their money, they stop telling the news that their president is not senile, and in more democratic countries they are simply voted out, where in less democratic countries... well like Mussolini.  So, they don't take risks. They go for the least inventive and most direct way to rule and make money. Unfortunately for them, this tends to make it obvious that people are being oppressed, and those being ruled tend to dig in their heels.
You seem to totally ignore loyalty.   You think the Jan. 6 folks were all paid to storm the capital?  No.  Loyalty. Power.  All stuff. 
Kim Jong Un wants something done?  It's done.  Quick.  Easy.  And if someone says no, they die.  How i
s North Korea?  Have they revolted yet after... What... 50 years? You do not need an analogy when literal real world examples exist.


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Here's an example of quickly and efficiently. The overpacked Big Agro factory chickens are now sick, resulting in raised price for eggs. What would be a quick and efficient way to solve this problem? Simple! Have small farmers raise chickens.  These chickens will supply local areas with eggs, resulting in greatly reduced prices, instead of depending on one or two people to ship across the country or whatever. No tyranny required, just good old fashioned return to farming.
... So quick and efficient is to organize thousands of small farms, convince them to raise chickens, which requires land, a coop, different feed, egg harvesting routines... Then coordinate all those small farms to sell at a competitive price to local areas while ignoring any place that doesn't have farm land. 

You're a moron.  That is not quick.  It's the opposite of quick. And since setting up a new livestock takes money, any eggs are gonna be .ore expensive than ones from a place already setup.  The quick solution is to buy more chickens.  Or consolidate factory farms.  Not build whole new infrastructure in thousands of locations.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23953 on: February 19, 2025, 10:01:30 AM »
More of Trump being a dictator!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/trump-executive-order-sec-ftc-fcc.html

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946465910703656972/1341787376577679402/Screenshot_20250219-072549.png?ex=67b7445f&is=67b5f2df&hm=38fcee2116e851b671c9efc31e8f2d34fd79ecf58add33214d4552c5c131c532&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946465910703656972/1341787377114284052/Screenshot_20250219-072638.png?ex=67b7445f&is=67b5f2df&hm=ae06be1e2c35718ebf296c1c50c6c69105acae5846e70580f15b1943ddd2ab55&


Summary:
Trump is the law.  Any questions about what the law means, ask Trump, not the courts.  SCOTUS is no longer the final say in how a law is interpreted, Trump is.

Trump has also expanded the agencies to have full control of money, including blocking any congressionally appointed funds he seems fit or expanding budgets as he See's fit.

So yes, full on dictator. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23954 on: February 19, 2025, 12:38:36 PM »
Christ.  I knew he would be worse this time round, but I’m amazed how bad it’s gone so quickly.  Domestically and internationally.

Now he’s parroting obvious Russian propaganda about Ukraine and Zelenskyy, meeting with Putin to “negotiate” without any Ukrainian representation at all and has already basically agreed to Putin’s demands. 

So much for the “art of the deal”.  All the tough talk is just for the US’s long term allies.  He couldn’t suck Putin’s proverbial cock any harder if he tried.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23955 on: February 19, 2025, 01:47:42 PM »
Christ.  I knew he would be worse this time round, but I’m amazed how bad it’s gone so quickly.  Domestically and internationally.

Now he’s parroting obvious Russian propaganda about Ukraine and Zelenskyy, meeting with Putin to “negotiate” without any Ukrainian representation at all and has already basically agreed to Putin’s demands. 

So much for the “art of the deal”.  All the tough talk is just for the US’s long term allies.  He couldn’t suck Putin’s proverbial cock any harder if he tried.

Yep.

Europe and Ukraine has already signaled they won't agree to anything Trump says.  He doesn't represent them.  And that Europe is gonna just keep helping without the US.


So Trump is basically making the US as isolated as possible.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23956 on: February 20, 2025, 05:25:17 AM »
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/
"     Therefore, in order to improve the administration of the executive branch and to increase regulatory officials’ accountability to the American people, it shall be the policy of the executive branch to ensure Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch.  Moreover, all executive departments and agencies, including so-called independent agencies, shall submit for review all proposed and final significant regulatory actions to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) within the Executive Office of the President before publication in the Federal Register."

Yeah, this looks sus...[/sarcasm]
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/trump-executive-order-sec-ftc-fcc.html
I thought you had a HUGE PROBLEM with unelected officials determining a course of action concerning government operations...but here you are, clamoring for just that...

Imagine, the guy in charge of budgeting is going to oversee the way the money is handled... OH MY GOD!!! HOW TERRIBLE!!!

First dictator in history to slash the size and scope of his own government...LMMFAO!!!

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WISHTOLAUGH

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23957 on: February 20, 2025, 05:27:17 AM »
Ukraine will fucking sign on or it will fucking end.

Europe is not going to be able sustain their fucking crap over there anymore.

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23958 on: February 20, 2025, 05:50:31 AM »
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/
"     Therefore, in order to improve the administration of the executive branch and to increase regulatory officials’ accountability to the American people, it shall be the policy of the executive branch to ensure Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch.  Moreover, all executive departments and agencies, including so-called independent agencies, shall submit for review all proposed and final significant regulatory actions to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) within the Executive Office of the President before publication in the Federal Register."

Yeah, this looks sus...[/sarcasm]
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/trump-executive-order-sec-ftc-fcc.html
I thought you had a HUGE PROBLEM with unelected officials determining a course of action concerning government operations...but here you are, clamoring for just that...

Imagine, the guy in charge of budgeting is going to oversee the way the money is handled... OH MY GOD!!! HOW TERRIBLE!!!

First dictator in history to slash the size and scope of his own government...LMMFAO!!!

The guy in charge of budgeting?
Errr... Congress is in charge of that. Says so in the constitution. 
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23959 on: February 20, 2025, 12:21:09 PM »
lackless ability to not konw basic and simple things continues to astound...

ASTOUNDING!




https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/branches-of-government#:~:text=U.S.%20Senate-,Executive,the%20laws%20of%20the%20land.

Executive. The executive branch consists of the President, his or her advisors and various departments and agencies. This branch is responsible for enforcing the laws of the land.


https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/branches-of-government#:~:text=The%20legislative%20branch%20is%20made,controls%20taxing%20and%20spending%20policies.

The legislative branch is made up of the House and Senate, known collectively as the Congress. Among other powers, the legislative branch makes all laws, declares war, regulates interstate and foreign commerce and controls taxing and spending policies.




see the legislative branch (congress) legislates, makes a law, makes a spending bill.

then the executive (POTUS) executes it.
puts it into action.

in baby terms,
Mike Johnson and John Thune send $100 to Trump to give to feed kids.
Trump HAS TO SPEND IT ON FEDDING THE KIDS.
He can give it to a special contractor called Trump inc and feed them kids at Trump tower.
That is his perogative.





and i will FULLY acknwloedge if i misunderstood how the USA works.
but that's how i read it.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23960 on: February 20, 2025, 01:04:40 PM »
Ukraine will fucking sign on or it will fucking end.

Europe is not going to be able sustain their fucking crap over there anymore.

“Their fucking crap”?

Oh dear.  Don’t tell me you believe the painfully obvious lies coming from Russia, far right trolls and the moronic US government that this is all Ukraine’s fault?

It’s not hard to work out who the aggressor is.

And this from Michael Waltz today:

“President Trump is obviously very frustrated right now with president Zelensky, the fact that that he hasn’t come to the table that he hasn’t been willing to take this opportunity that we have offered, I think he eventually will get to that point, and I hope so very quickly,”

That would be the table that Putin and his orange fluffer sat down down at behind Ukraine’s back (ie Zelenskyy was not invited).  Where Trump just agreed to everything his idol wanted, because he doesn’t have the stones to say no to him.

You’d have to be a real idiot to buy the crap Trump’s government of wingnuts is peddling.

It doesn’t bode well for the future of the US either.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23961 on: February 20, 2025, 01:18:19 PM »
Unlike some, I’m not sure that Putin has Kompromat on Trump.

Why bother?  All he needs to do is tell him he’s a very smart president.  Smarter than Obama, even!  And Trump will roll over and beg for his tummy to be scratched.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23962 on: February 20, 2025, 01:53:15 PM »
Ukraine will fucking sign on or it will fucking end.

Europe is not going to be able sustain their fucking crap over there anymore.

“Their fucking crap”?

Oh dear.  Don’t tell me you believe the painfully obvious lies coming from Russia, far right trolls and the moronic US government that this is all Ukraine’s fault?

It’s not hard to work out who the aggressor is.

And this from Michael Waltz today:

“President Trump is obviously very frustrated right now with president Zelensky, the fact that that he hasn’t come to the table that he hasn’t been willing to take this opportunity that we have offered, I think he eventually will get to that point, and I hope so very quickly,”

That would be the table that Putin and his orange fluffer sat down down at behind Ukraine’s back (ie Zelenskyy was not invited).  Where Trump just agreed to everything his idol wanted, because he doesn’t have the stones to say no to him.

You’d have to be a real idiot to buy the crap Trump’s government of wingnuts is peddling.

It doesn’t bode well for the future of the US either.




when Lackless talked about chicago i got the feeling he was a timpool staffer testing out talking points.
else he definitely is a timpool simp.


So given that, i'm pretty sure tim's russian money propaganda has made its way in, and filled up completely the available space in Lacklass's tiny tiny tiny little head.


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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23963 on: February 20, 2025, 06:19:54 PM »
First dictator in history to slash the size and scope of his own government...LMMFAO!!!
I wouldn't say that.  I can think of a few dictators back in the day who were well known for their purges.  In fact, purges are often how dictators consolidate their power.   I won't mention names, lest Godwin's law be invoked, but I'm sure that you can figure out who I'm talking about.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23964 on: February 20, 2025, 11:43:49 PM »
more like the projectionist gotta project (maga accusation is an admission)

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WISHTOLAUGH

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23965 on: February 21, 2025, 04:53:09 AM »
MaN, WE LOVE Us SOmE oF ThAT gOOd Ole AZOV bAttAlION NAZI marches, YeSSiR!!!
YessUM, masser, WE do lOvE um!!!
DoN'T forget the MoNEy lAUndERing and HUmaN TRaffickinG eiTHer, cAUse wE GoTTa HaVe THaT tOO!!!
LMMFAO!!!

Bunch of goddamn NAZI sympathisers on this fucking platform.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23966 on: February 21, 2025, 05:37:39 AM »
Mmmm proving my point (magahat projectionist gotta project)






nazis keep showing up where?
Look at the timpoole simp confused at basic things.


Moron








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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23967 on: February 21, 2025, 07:42:13 AM »
Nazis!  LOL

If that nice Mr Putin calls them Nazis, they must be Nazis. 

A man who regularly bumps off any meaningful opposition, imprisons people for criticising the government, annexes his neighbour’s territory, etc wouldn’t lie to you, now would he?

I know some far right morons think the sun shines out of his arsehole, but are you really going to parrot all the Kremlin’s bollocks, like a good little drone?


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23968 on: February 21, 2025, 08:25:04 PM »
First dictator in history to slash the size and scope of his own government...LMMFAO!!!
I wouldn't say that.  I can think of a few dictators back in the day who were well known for their purges.  In fact, purges are often how dictators consolidate their power.   I won't mention names, lest Godwin's law be invoked, but I'm sure that you can figure out who I'm talking about.

Of course. "Literally Hitler."

No, Trump is not Hitler. Nor is he Caesar. Though tbh, Caesar is alot closer to what we are looking for, a leader who has popular support, who the leaders want to bury, not to praise.

Hitler took power immediately, Trump spent a whole term putting up with the political establishment obstructing him. Also, for a leader to be a dictator, he really does have to have a power base. Hitler tended to purge people, not his own power base.

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see the legislative branch (congress) legislates, makes a law, makes a spending bill.

then the executive (POTUS) executes it.
puts it into action.

You literally think that a president is somehow overpowered if he says no to spending.

Did you not learn about checks and balances in high school civics? The branches of government are not just supposed to roll over and pass the laws that the legislative branch wants. The president can veto and make executive orders. The judicial branch can declare a law unconstitutional based on existing amendments, and can even abolish laws (as in the abolition of slavery and also the abolition of the prohibition).

In fact, if nobody is able to oppose Congress, they have in fact abused their power, making themselves not only legislate laws, but also force the president to execute them.

Trump is Literally Asta.

His power abolishes power.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23969 on: February 21, 2025, 09:14:12 PM »
First dictator in history to slash the size and scope of his own government...LMMFAO!!!
I wouldn't say that.  I can think of a few dictators back in the day who were well known for their purges.  In fact, purges are often how dictators consolidate their power.   I won't mention names, lest Godwin's law be invoked, but I'm sure that you can figure out who I'm talking about.

Of course. "Literally Hitler."

No, Trump is not Hitler. Nor is he Caesar. Though tbh, Caesar is alot closer to what we are looking for, a leader who has popular support, who the leaders want to bury, not to praise.

Hitler took power immediately, Trump spent a whole term putting up with the political establishment obstructing him. Also, for a leader to be a dictator, he really does have to have a power base. Hitler tended to purge people, not his own power base.

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see the legislative branch (congress) legislates, makes a law, makes a spending bill.

then the executive (POTUS) executes it.
puts it into action.

You literally think that a president is somehow overpowered if he says no to spending.

Did you not learn about checks and balances in high school civics? The branches of government are not just supposed to roll over and pass the laws that the legislative branch wants. The president can veto and make executive orders. The judicial branch can declare a law unconstitutional based on existing amendments, and can even abolish laws (as in the abolition of slavery and also the abolition of the prohibition).

In fact, if nobody is able to oppose Congress, they have in fact abused their power, making themselves not only legislate laws, but also force the president to execute them.

Trump is Literally Asta.

His power abolishes power.
No where in your list is "The president can reassign money congress appropriated for a task via law." Or, another way, he can't change the law congress passes, only veto.

But he is changing the law as he See's fit.
You need to remember that the president's power is also checked but so far, Trump is trying to bypass all of that.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.