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Why do you support donald trump

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24270 on: April 28, 2025, 08:19:34 AM »
Someone really likes russian propoganda...

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24271 on: April 28, 2025, 12:02:02 PM »


Suppose, Germany wants to take Russia, as they did in World War II.  Now, they already have Poland (Germany that is), so you have signal that maybe they are planning to invade Russia. They then march through either Ukraine or Belarus. These parts may or may not be called Russia (doesn't matter, so long as they do their job of giving warning). A buffer state is like setting up a watchtower run by your little brother. "Hey troops are invading here, big bro!" "Alright, little bro, we'll be right there!" In return for being the first area to be attacked, Russia sends its tanks to defend that area. Ideally. In any case, this also helps them, as they have advance notice of any incoming invasions. Instead of a border wall like US, they have an entire state screening immigration. If Belarus or Tajikistan doesn't like the looks of certain new visitors, this at best acts as a loose alliance, letting them drive off these invaders.
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Buffer states function as neutral territories situated between two rival powers, helping to prevent direct conflict by providing a space for diplomacy and negotiation. They often bear the consequences of tensions between the powers, as their existence can lead to increased risks of invasion or occupation.
But what happens when they side against Russia? Suddenly Ukraine adopts Biden's screwy immigration policies instead of Russia's or its own, and Ukraine won't notify Russia of any incoming threats, instead letting troops and tanks roll past them into Russia.

Both Trump and Biden attended Pope Francis's funeral. I want you to think about this. Trump is not known as a particularly pious individual. He only goes to church on certain occasions, and once used tear gas to get a photo op for a church. Biden is known for large donations to the world's charity. On the surface, Biden seems like the better man. Except, while the last Pope lived, much of the Catholic church condemned Biden's stance on abortions, and Trump is attending a funeral to pay his respects to a man who doesn't even like him.
Let's talk about that world charity thing and whether throwing US tax money at poverty really helped anyone. It created open borders,  the effects of which my parents saw during their last trip to visit my mother-in-law. They stayed at a hotel, where they complained several times of wanting blankets and breakfast, but the hotel was instead primarily used to house illegal workers.
It's one thing to help the poor out. It's quite another when the people of your own country feel like immigrants, and whoever is newest is catered to at your expense. Are those poor any less poor over here? Not if it makes businesses have barely money to pay people living wages, while you undercut those wages by giving people maybe $1.50 to do a job because you call Americans too lazy to do a job after you've raised the minimum wage to $15. Americans don't benefit from not getting regular work at those wages, and immigrants don't benefit from the under the table economy.  What about our overseas handouts? No, what happened was that all the USAID money got absorbed by ppl like Volodymyr Zelensky, not by citizens. It's like this. Suppose you donate two billion to the people of Ukraine. That, divided by each person, winds up being  $51.71 for each person's relief.  Since money spreads a bit different overseas, this stretch a bit farther maybe, depending on the shape of their currency. But they are also fighting a war, so you're probably also giving them that money to buy weapons, not to feed themselves. So that "humanitarian" gesture was to grease the wheels for a war that you're using to distract from your rising gas prices (Wag the Dog), and the threat of nuclear attack against US looms like an albatross. That's even assuming it was divided evenly among the people, and Zelensky didn't get a hefty chunk. Further, when I searched "how Biden's money affected Ukraine" I got a fact check (which I usually distrust, because it's a loud denouncement of a question that needs to be asked) about Biden using Ukraine to launder money.

One of these presidents screwed with American taxes for international charity (effectively using money he didn't have to at best provide a scapegoat for rising prices, and at worst to maybe get richer while doing so) and created an inflation crisis. One is paying his respects even if the rest of the world does not understand him. One of these presidents actually is talking about ending a war another started, yet the first is praised for humanitarian action. Yes, Ukraine money was spent on really good tanks. Tanks, but no tanks. Give the American people their money back for a war that your bimbo VP caused.

*sigh*
So you're saying Russia has no sattelites.  No radar.  No way of knowing there's a troop buildup on their border by a collection of nations that relies on Russia for their energy needs and will absolutely suffer if they suddenly decide to invade.

And may I remind you that Germany had an alliance with Russia to not invade.  They literally had troops on Russia's doorstep and Russia was ok with it.  AND THEY STILL FAILED TO TAKE RUSSIA!

I would also like to remind you that Ukraine was attacked in 2014, long before Kamala did whatever it is you think she did.  This isn't about NATO.  It never was.  Espeically given that NATO is a defensive pact and while the EU's weak army could try to march on Russia, it had no chance of winning if it did.  Russia has nothing to fear from NATO.  Their biggest enemy is America.

Putin is a dictator.  If you don't see that then you must like dictators.
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disputeone

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24272 on: April 28, 2025, 09:51:40 PM »
I would also like to remind you that Ukraine was attacked in 2014, This isn't about NATO.  It never was.

Are you quite sure?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Also 4chan is back.
I was beginning to lose hope.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns. 

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disputeone

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24273 on: April 28, 2025, 10:06:39 PM »
Also.
You're not so anonymous.

https://x.com/reddit_lies/status/1916916134630117814

Surely western intelligence haven't been doing this for years.

Lmao.

Beep boop, amirite?

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They are way better than you, Dave, and they don't even have their own dedicated power stations like military grade LLMs. Then again, you don't have your own dedicated power station either.

Shifter does.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24274 on: April 29, 2025, 05:07:22 AM »


Suppose, Germany wants to take Russia, as they did in World War II.  Now, they already have Poland (Germany that is), so you have signal that maybe they are planning to invade Russia. They then march through either Ukraine or Belarus. These parts may or may not be called Russia (doesn't matter, so long as they do their job of giving warning). A buffer state is like setting up a watchtower run by your little brother. "Hey troops are invading here, big bro!" "Alright, little bro, we'll be right there!" In return for being the first area to be attacked, Russia sends its tanks to defend that area. Ideally. In any case, this also helps them, as they have advance notice of any incoming invasions. Instead of a border wall like US, they have an entire state screening immigration. If Belarus or Tajikistan doesn't like the looks of certain new visitors, this at best acts as a loose alliance, letting them drive off these invaders.
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Buffer states function as neutral territories situated between two rival powers, helping to prevent direct conflict by providing a space for diplomacy and negotiation. They often bear the consequences of tensions between the powers, as their existence can lead to increased risks of invasion or occupation.
But what happens when they side against Russia? Suddenly Ukraine adopts Biden's screwy immigration policies instead of Russia's or its own, and Ukraine won't notify Russia of any incoming threats, instead letting troops and tanks roll past them into Russia.

Both Trump and Biden attended Pope Francis's funeral. I want you to think about this. Trump is not known as a particularly pious individual. He only goes to church on certain occasions, and once used tear gas to get a photo op for a church. Biden is known for large donations to the world's charity. On the surface, Biden seems like the better man. Except, while the last Pope lived, much of the Catholic church condemned Biden's stance on abortions, and Trump is attending a funeral to pay his respects to a man who doesn't even like him.
Let's talk about that world charity thing and whether throwing US tax money at poverty really helped anyone. It created open borders,  the effects of which my parents saw during their last trip to visit my mother-in-law. They stayed at a hotel, where they complained several times of wanting blankets and breakfast, but the hotel was instead primarily used to house illegal workers.
It's one thing to help the poor out. It's quite another when the people of your own country feel like immigrants, and whoever is newest is catered to at your expense. Are those poor any less poor over here? Not if it makes businesses have barely money to pay people living wages, while you undercut those wages by giving people maybe $1.50 to do a job because you call Americans too lazy to do a job after you've raised the minimum wage to $15. Americans don't benefit from not getting regular work at those wages, and immigrants don't benefit from the under the table economy.  What about our overseas handouts? No, what happened was that all the USAID money got absorbed by ppl like Volodymyr Zelensky, not by citizens. It's like this. Suppose you donate two billion to the people of Ukraine. That, divided by each person, winds up being  $51.71 for each person's relief.  Since money spreads a bit different overseas, this stretch a bit farther maybe, depending on the shape of their currency. But they are also fighting a war, so you're probably also giving them that money to buy weapons, not to feed themselves. So that "humanitarian" gesture was to grease the wheels for a war that you're using to distract from your rising gas prices (Wag the Dog), and the threat of nuclear attack against US looms like an albatross. That's even assuming it was divided evenly among the people, and Zelensky didn't get a hefty chunk. Further, when I searched "how Biden's money affected Ukraine" I got a fact check (which I usually distrust, because it's a loud denouncement of a question that needs to be asked) about Biden using Ukraine to launder money.

One of these presidents screwed with American taxes for international charity (effectively using money he didn't have to at best provide a scapegoat for rising prices, and at worst to maybe get richer while doing so) and created an inflation crisis. One is paying his respects even if the rest of the world does not understand him. One of these presidents actually is talking about ending a war another started, yet the first is praised for humanitarian action. Yes, Ukraine money was spent on really good tanks. Tanks, but no tanks. Give the American people their money back for a war that your bimbo VP caused.

*sigh*
So you're saying Russia has no sattelites.  No radar.  No way of knowing there's a troop buildup on their border by a collection of nations that relies on Russia for their energy needs and will absolutely suffer if they suddenly decide to invade.

And may I remind you that Germany had an alliance with Russia to not invade.  They literally had troops on Russia's doorstep and Russia was ok with it.  AND THEY STILL FAILED TO TAKE RUSSIA!

I would also like to remind you that Ukraine was attacked in 2014, long before Kamala did whatever it is you think she did.  This isn't about NATO.  It never was.  Espeically given that NATO is a defensive pact and while the EU's weak army could try to march on Russia, it had no chance of winning if it did.  Russia has nothing to fear from NATO.  Their biggest enemy is America.

Putin is a dictator.  If you don't see that then you must like dictators.


While bulmba is wrong

There is a half truth where georiga and ukriane requested nato in april 2008.
Georgia was hit in august 2008.
Ukraines chrimea 2014.


but any claim of agression to push on western agreession is so bad faithed
like a rapist who blames the victim for looking too sexy.
"they were asking for it, they made me do it." says the bad faithed, narcisit, wife beater.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24275 on: April 29, 2025, 06:59:37 AM »
Russia could just ask to join NATO.

Then they wouldn't have to be afraid.
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24276 on: April 30, 2025, 04:47:22 AM »
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There is a half truth where georiga and ukriane requested nato in april 2008.
Georgia was hit in august 2008.
Ukraines chrimea 2014.

It's a full truth.

Georgia was hit to be made an example of.
Ukraine probably paused its overtures for a few minutes. You say there was fighting in 2014, but it was probably more like escalating tensions.

Then in 2022, while gas prices are climbing a bit, and people are reporting $100 fill ups, Kamala says in an online tweet that Ukraine is part of NATO.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/16/kamala-harris-tweet-mistakenly-suggests-ukraine-is-part-of-nato/
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When I was in Poland, I met with U.S. and Polish service members, thanking them for standing with our NATO allies for freedom, peace, and security.

The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people in defense of the NATO alliance.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220315153521/https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1503756163338412032

While this bitch is pretty stupid, I'm afraid someone put her up to this (Hanlon's Reversed Razor), as a plan to use a war to distract the public from rising gas prices. Unfortunately, as someone with ADD, it is actually impossible to distract me (as I am already focused on multiple things at once). All of a sudden, we move from rising gas prices to hearing about an all-out invasion of Ukraine (invasions look like different things by the way, our country is invaded a bit at a time by plainclothes gangs) and conflict by Russia, and hospitals getting targeted.

These organizations like NATO and EU and UN don't really keep world peace. Like their predecessors, all it takes is some archduke that nobody cares about getting assassinated and suddenly it's everyone's problem. Russia doesn't want NATO running it, and especially not its bordering states.


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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24277 on: April 30, 2025, 09:49:06 AM »
you failed to read the 2nd part


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but any claim of agression to push on western agreession is so bad faithed
like a rapist who blames the victim for looking too sexy.
"they were asking for it, they made me do it." says the bad faithed, narcisit, wife beater.

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Unconvinced

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24278 on: April 30, 2025, 11:03:17 AM »
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There is a half truth where georiga and ukriane requested nato in april 2008.
Georgia was hit in august 2008.
Ukraines chrimea 2014.

It's a full truth.

Georgia was hit to be made an example of.
Ukraine probably paused its overtures for a few minutes. You say there was fighting in 2014, but it was probably more like escalating tensions.

Then in 2022, while gas prices are climbing a bit, and people are reporting $100 fill ups, Kamala says in an online tweet that Ukraine is part of NATO.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/16/kamala-harris-tweet-mistakenly-suggests-ukraine-is-part-of-nato/
Quote from: atKamalaHarris
When I was in Poland, I met with U.S. and Polish service members, thanking them for standing with our NATO allies for freedom, peace, and security.

The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people in defense of the NATO alliance.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220315153521/https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1503756163338412032

While this bitch is pretty stupid, I'm afraid someone put her up to this (Hanlon's Reversed Razor), as a plan to use a war to distract the public from rising gas prices. Unfortunately, as someone with ADD, it is actually impossible to distract me (as I am already focused on multiple things at once). All of a sudden, we move from rising gas prices to hearing about an all-out invasion of Ukraine (invasions look like different things by the way, our country is invaded a bit at a time by plainclothes gangs) and conflict by Russia, and hospitals getting targeted.

These organizations like NATO and EU and UN don't really keep world peace. Like their predecessors, all it takes is some archduke that nobody cares about getting assassinated and suddenly it's everyone's problem. Russia doesn't want NATO running it, and especially not its bordering states.

Come on!

You are peddling Russian excuses for an imperialist invasion of their neighbour.

Russia has had NATO countries on its border for 2 decades.  Just as close to Moscow and very much closer to St Petersburg.  They made no moves that could be considered a threat to Russia.

Baltic countries joined NATO to get some security from the possibly of what Russia is doing now- trying to reclaim countries they think belong to them.

Putin didn’t fear NATO, in fact he was counting on the fact that NATO would avoid direct conflict when he launched his invasion. If he really thought that NATO was waiting for a moment to hit Russia, it would make zero sense to do the one thing that would give NATO the perfect excuse to strike.  He knew they wouldn’t, especially with all his threats of nuclear armageddon.   

Sorry, but no. This all about control.  Putin lost his puppet following the Euromaiden protests, when the people of Ukraine showed they wanted closer relations to the EU and less dependence on Russia.  That’s what he could stand.  He made his move on Crimea days later.

I might have just about believed it if Russia’s stated goals were just about keeping Ukraine neutral, but that all went out the window when he claimed even more Ukrainian territory as part of Russia.  That’s not a “buffer zone”, it’s a fucking land grab.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24279 on: April 30, 2025, 12:56:50 PM »
if bulma bought a gun for defense for fear of neighbourhood robberies, and then i robbed him during the two week wait period (if he did it through "legal" means), then he says "hey don't rob me", and i says "i had to rob you, because you were getting a gun and i feared for my life."


as always, proguns!
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that's what bulma's saying.

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24280 on: April 30, 2025, 08:26:46 PM »
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if bulma bought a gun for defense for fear of neighbourhood robberies, and then i robbed him during the two week wait period (if he did it through "legal" means), then he says "hey don't rob me", and i says "i had to rob you, because you were getting a gun and i feared for my life."

I wouldn't buy a gun.

Guns are not actually much better than other weapons. It's hype.

The actual popularity of guns for years was not their power (arrows have physics behind it, as the entire force generated by the length of the shaft means penetrating power enough that an expert can pierce multiple layers of bulletproof glass). Kevlar is also no defense against certain heads of arrow. The only disadvantage is loading time for any one who isn't really skilled.

And it actually takes 20 seconds to set up a gun, as Mythbusters found out by two separate "knife to a gunfight" tests. Having any weapon handy, even a walking stick, has enough time to either disarm a robber or kill them.  The key is not being intimidated. They're a joke.


Do you know the actual reason pistols achieved popularity? It wasn't its power. And even if it does fire a faster projectile, the lack of mass means it's basically a pea shooter. Further, a skilled archer can load and fire a bow about as fast as a gun. It was two reasons:
1. Lack of need for training (to get bows to full effectiveness, you need a great deal of strength and skill)
2. They're loud, meaning they can be used as startling weapons.

Now, a shotgun, at close range, I might buy that weapon. The spread of multiple pellets has good stopping power.  Maybe a machine gun that's preloaded. But many revolvers are basically the same model as 100 years ago. And pistols do occasionally jam up when refilling the clip, as I found from the firing range. 

I also like swords a fair amount. In the amount of time to shoot me with a gun (remember 20 seconds to draw, cock, aim, and fire), I could simply give you a nice slash across the chest. Even with the first three taken care of, I probably have about three seconds if you miss, and I'm gonna swing anyway, cuz momentum will probably finish you off too.

So yeah, (1) you're as much an idiot as I thought, and (2) you don't know me at all.

If you tried to rob me, fearing for your life doesn't make sense as a justification. Any court would understand that most states have laws about carrying guns outside openly (meaning they stay at home for most legal gun owners), whereas castle doctrine is a thing. If you break in and threaten me with a weapon, fighting back even with lethal force is a reasonable option. You being afraid is a bad excuse, because most people (not me) would buy a gun out of fear of robbers, not the other way around.

Relating this back to Russia, just as I have completely my own approach to self-defense, Russia doesn't need to follow America's playbook on defending their country. But if you told me that you were going to convince my next door neighbor to join a gang (the IRL equivalent of NATO), most people would buy a gun as soon as they heard about this. I'd go to a blacksmith, cuz that's me.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24281 on: April 30, 2025, 08:29:11 PM »
missed the point again

either purposefully or moronically


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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24282 on: May 01, 2025, 01:11:31 AM »
20 seconds to draw?  Adam did it in 4.  You must really really suck at it.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24283 on: May 01, 2025, 03:01:20 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/30/nx-s1-5382384/ukraine-us-minerals-deal

Welp, there you have it.
Trump will fully support the evil, corrupt, war starting Ukraine and stop Russia's unfair war...

Because now he has a financial interest in doing so.  Not for liberty.  Not for Justice.  Not for democracy.. .but for money.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24284 on: May 01, 2025, 05:04:16 AM »
LD still clinging to the myth wars are waged for "patriotic reasons." What a fucking tool...

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24285 on: May 01, 2025, 06:10:41 AM »
LD still clinging to the myth wars are waged for "patriotic reasons." What a fucking tool...
They are not.
But most have the decency to at least pretend they are.  Trump might as well say "I don't care what happens to your country unless you pay me to."
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24286 on: May 01, 2025, 11:01:04 AM »
LD still clinging to the myth wars are waged for "patriotic reasons." What a fucking tool...


So trump is waging wars NOT because of america-first?

Mmmm

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24287 on: May 01, 2025, 11:22:25 PM »
Russia could just ask to join NATO.

Then they wouldn't have to be afraid.

In the early 2000s, when Russia was still a playground for western financial experimenters and Putin was Yeltsin's good little boy, it was being considered. At some point Russian ruling classes (and not only) realized they were getting fucked over by the west, and Putin began to turn away from western influence. The financial experiments ended, the economy was stabilized, Putin was popular for that. And then of course frictions between Russia and the west began increasing. Russia would not attempt to join NATO and NATO would not accept it even if they did, because they believe their interests are incompatible. Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.

Well if you want to go really far back, the USSR also tried to join NATO in 1954, which was rejected, but the USSR isn't modern Russia and these comparisons are always flawed. Still, it was refused, and Russia would also be refused today, or even before 2014.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24288 on: May 02, 2025, 12:37:49 AM »
Bots shilling bots shilling bots shilling bots shilling kabool.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns. 

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24289 on: May 02, 2025, 01:25:36 AM »
Bots shilling bots shilling bots shilling bots shilling kabool.

Been here before bots were articulate.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24290 on: May 02, 2025, 06:38:56 AM »
i'm very articulate
i'm so articu-late i'm articu-early

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24291 on: May 02, 2025, 06:45:46 AM »
Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.
He didn't think it made any sense.  He thought it would be essentially over in days.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24292 on: May 02, 2025, 09:14:42 AM »
the guy steamrolled georgia and chrimea
guess he was counting on his russian asset to destbilize the nato front a bit better and not expecting donated weapons from nato



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24293 on: May 02, 2025, 11:18:59 AM »
Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.
He didn't think it made any sense.  He thought it would be essentially over in days.
Right.  The only reason that it’s lasting this long is because Ukraine doesn’t want to give Putin a way out where he can save face.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24294 on: May 03, 2025, 10:45:27 AM »
Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.
He didn't think it made any sense.  He thought it would be essentially over in days.
Right.  The only reason that it’s lasting this long is because Ukraine doesn’t want to give Putin a way out where he can save face.

Not sure if sarcasm?

Ukraine offered to drop their request for NATO membership shortly after the initial invasion.  Russia’s best bet to save face would have been after they surrounded and captured the Azov brigade.  Remember when Russia used to cite them as a major objective?  They might have even managed some sort of recognition on Crimea, although probably not Ukraine dropping claims completely.

But instead Putin claimed to have annexed 4 more regions, which Russia didn’t even fully control.  That made his intentions perfectly clear.  I don’t see him saving face by dropping those claims or any or his other demands.






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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24295 on: May 05, 2025, 10:22:51 AM »
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24296 on: May 08, 2025, 08:39:13 AM »
Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.
He didn't think it made any sense.  He thought it would be essentially over in days.

And it should have been. If it were just making peace with Russia, unilaterally handing over Ukraine and its previous border states would have done the trick.
Ukraine is The Mouse That Roared, holding out for freebies, and being outraged when Trump says those days are over. 

This cannot end well for them. The sooner they give up NATO dreams, the better their country will be. If not, they could instead wind up in enormous debt and broken up into territories, to say nothing of Zelensky ousted from power.

Awesum signature quote, tbh.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine-parliament-minerals-deal-approved/

Apparently, just today they've signed off on a deal giving rights to minerals. Trump called on their debt, and they're like "Ummmm, we kinda spent that money..." so now we own their minerals and they get some security. Meanwhile, Russia gets Crimea and keeps control of much of Ukraine. In other words, there's a pretty strong signal to Ukraine to shut up and take it up the ass.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-putin-prepare-begin-ukraine-peace-talks-europe/story?id=118771634
Which is exactly what it should be doing.
It used enormous taxpayer funds to keep a war going that it was in the wrong about.

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24297 on: May 08, 2025, 10:40:56 AM »
Now, why Putin decided a full on, prolonged war with Ukraine makes any sense whatsoever, I don't know.
He didn't think it made any sense.  He thought it would be essentially over in days.

And it should have been. If it were just making peace with Russia, unilaterally handing over Ukraine and its previous border states would have done the trick.
Ukraine is The Mouse That Roared, holding out for freebies, and being outraged when Trump says those days are over. 

This cannot end well for them. The sooner they give up NATO dreams, the better their country will be. If not, they could instead wind up in enormous debt and broken up into territories, to say nothing of Zelensky ousted from power.

Awesum signature quote, tbh.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine-parliament-minerals-deal-approved/

Apparently, just today they've signed off on a deal giving rights to minerals. Trump called on their debt, and they're like "Ummmm, we kinda spent that money..." so now we own their minerals and they get some security. Meanwhile, Russia gets Crimea and keeps control of much of Ukraine. In other words, there's a pretty strong signal to Ukraine to shut up and take it up the ass.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-putin-prepare-begin-ukraine-peace-talks-europe/story?id=118771634
Which is exactly what it should be doing.
It used enormous taxpayer funds to keep a war going that it was in the wrong about.


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You didn't read the article, did you?
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24298 on: May 08, 2025, 11:33:22 AM »
and if women just let men have sex with them then it wouldn't be rape.
it's her fault.

gotcha.

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #24299 on: May 10, 2025, 12:09:47 AM »
and if women just let men have sex with them then it wouldn't be rape.
it's her fault.

gotcha.

Well, lefties wanted men to like having sex with trans women, so yea, same logic. Doesn't matter what you want, and it's your fault for saying no.

What? Suddenly you don't like that idea?

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You didn't read the article, did you?

Your article? No, I don't pay attention to news articles that you dig up. They're usually wrong, biased, incomplete, or all three, intended to cause outrage to people who feel rather than thinking. A previous article tried to paint the Abrego Garcia as a family man. Turned out he was not only a gang member
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence
but his wife had also signed a restraining order against him.

This is about an ICE raid looking for someone else. Why were they looking for someone else? Because previous residents lived in this home and they didn't have the latest address. This is what you expect when government has been tied up with four years of red tape from a doddering and incompetent man.  You have to deal with all of his messes. And yes, you do have to rule out an Anne Frank situation before you search other places.

And we have this sketchy "Marisa" pseudonym person and you know what? Sometimes I heard of illegals continually changing their names to evade deportation. Yes, they could be previous residents. Or the same residents, under a different name. In fact, mail from the previous resident was still arriving at the address, and they had only moved in two weeks ago.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/05/01/dhs-ice-raid-oklahoma-city-home-family/83385372007/
We also do not know that it was even real ICE or just a bunch of thugs in uniform
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-family-traumatized-life-being-212059323.html
Why don't we know this? Because they didn't leave any contact info. "Hmmm, this money is evidence. I'll take it." The thing is, you don't get to keep items if they're not part of the real search.  A warrant for the wrong family would be not a real search.

So there are alot of things we don't know here:
  • Whether this family was in fact new or the original people under a pseudonym
  • Whether this was ICE or just some thugs (the lack of timeline and contact information is susp)
  • Who exactly this "Marisa" person is, who the old family was, and who the new family was
  • Where the new family went to, and whether they were caught
  • Whether the mail service forgot to update, or something else was going on.


Unless I know the whole story, I typically reserve judgement. So your clickbait articles hoping to shock me don't have the intended effect.