The Flat Earth Society

Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: Lliquid on May 09, 2017, 10:12:55 PM

Title: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Lliquid on May 09, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
(http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 09, 2017, 11:07:37 PM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Bullwinkle on May 09, 2017, 11:09:27 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.

Up and down.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: CptObvious on May 10, 2017, 12:34:36 AM
who sell you this utter CGI.
...and thousands of people who were acually there. But hey, maybe they are CGI too.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: inquisitive on May 10, 2017, 01:50:34 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.
Says the person who does not understand how a nuclear power station works.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 10, 2017, 02:15:41 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.
Says the person hiding from the truth and evidence and refutations of their baseless nonsense, with nothing from reality to back up any of their delusions at all.

You are the one hiding from reality, and you do seem to have something against people for not just accepting your baseless crap.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on May 10, 2017, 02:19:45 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.
Change the record, scepti.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Hannibaal on May 10, 2017, 03:26:15 AM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
(http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.

Were there any cameras in the air (on board an aircraft, maybe) recording the footage, because at an altitude of 75 Km, the angle of the shot looked almost straight, as if the camera was at same altitude?

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 10, 2017, 03:33:59 AM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
(http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.

Were there any cameras in the air (on board an aircraft, maybe) recording the footage, because at an altitude of 75 Km, the angle of the shot looked almost straight, as if the camera was at same altitude?
No. It looked like it was being filmed from a significant angle below it, but it is quite difficult to tell exactly due to how far away it is and its shape.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 10, 2017, 04:42:16 AM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
(http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.

Were there any cameras in the air (on board an aircraft, maybe) recording the footage, because at an altitude of 75 Km, the angle of the shot looked almost straight, as if the camera was at same altitude?
They had playstation cameras positioned on space elevators, plus X- box drones at half mile vertical points to capture it all.

Fantastic isn't it?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: wise on May 10, 2017, 04:48:52 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 10, 2017, 05:17:05 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 10, 2017, 05:38:37 AM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
(http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.
One would think that a rocket booster going up and then coming back down should not contradict FET in the slightest (scepti physics aside).  It's when the rocket allegedly goes into orbit that FET has issues.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: wise on May 10, 2017, 05:53:07 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 10, 2017, 06:01:37 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: wise on May 10, 2017, 06:51:06 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

 Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D

I'm still confused on how a man falls  by a bit tripping in a place that g is 1/6 of world g?

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/61bba0777301e581471e0bec5a89e6d8/tumblr_o4mh59yIE71v2x721o1_400.gif)

If Bart could make a trip to Aldrin, he could win the match.  ;D
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 10, 2017, 06:54:20 AM
Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D
Bart isn't a flat earth believer.  He's just a moon landing denier.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: wise on May 10, 2017, 06:56:53 AM
Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D
Bart isn't a flat earth believer.  He's just a moon landing denier.

Surely. Also Shaq isin't a flat earth believer. I know everybody has a story but afraid to decribe himself as a believer. No problem. In my opinion he is a FE believer and will stay in my that opinion so that.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 10, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D
Bart isn't a flat earth believer.  He's just a moon landing denier.

Surely. Also Shaq isin't a flat earth believer. I know everybody has a story but afraid to decribe himself as a believer. No problem. In my opinion he is a FE believer and will stay in my that opinion so that.

I hate to burst your bubble, but...
Quote from: http://planetxnews.com/2015/12/31/bart-sibrels-moon-landing-and-flat-earth-interview/
Fist of all, I have personally flown all over the world, east and west, with a window seat. The world IS round. I have looked out the window several times at the northern arctic region, over both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, which airlines fly over to save travel distance across the oceans because the spherical shape of the Earth makes this region narrower, therefore shorter distance. If the Earth were flat, this would cost MORE fuel, not less, which the airlines would NEVER do. Additionally, just as a soap bubble always forms a sphere in the air, as does an air bubble always form a sphere under water, outer space works the EXACT SAME WAY.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: armyhorn8 on May 10, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

 Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D

I'm still confused on how a man falls  by a bit tripping in a place that g is 1/6 of world g?

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/61bba0777301e581471e0bec5a89e6d8/tumblr_o4mh59yIE71v2x721o1_400.gif)

If Bart could make a trip to Aldrin, he could win the match.  ;D

I don't usually resort to insults, but after this string of GIFs, all I can say is that you're a complete and utter idiot, Intikam.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Twerp on May 10, 2017, 12:14:25 PM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

 Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D

I'm still confused on how a man falls  by a bit tripping in a place that g is 1/6 of world g?

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/61bba0777301e581471e0bec5a89e6d8/tumblr_o4mh59yIE71v2x721o1_400.gif)

If Bart could make a trip to Aldrin, he could win the match.  ;D

I don't usually resort to insults, but after this string of GIFs, all I can say is that you're a complete and utter idiot, Intikam.

All the photos and videos supporting the Apollo missions, globe shaped Earth, and a revolving earth are utter bullshit!  But these GIFs? Clearly they are genuine. Nothing to be skeptical about here!
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: CptObvious on May 10, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
They had playstation cameras positioned on space elevators, plus X- box drones at half mile vertical points to capture it all.

Fantastic isn't it?

What the... This doesn't make sense at all.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 10, 2017, 12:45:06 PM
They had playstation cameras positioned on space elevators, plus X- box drones at half mile vertical points to capture it all.

Fantastic isn't it?

What the... This doesn't make sense at all.
You deserve a promotion, Cpt. Obvious.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 10, 2017, 03:42:41 PM
I'm still confused on how a man falls  by a bit tripping in a place that g is 1/6 of world g?
Because gravity is still there.
Why wouldn't he be able to fall?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: CptObvious on May 10, 2017, 10:30:44 PM
They had playstation cameras positioned on space elevators, plus X- box drones at half mile vertical points to capture it all.

Fantastic isn't it?

What the... This doesn't make sense at all.
You deserve a promotion, Cpt. Obvious.
Yes!
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: wise on May 10, 2017, 11:11:13 PM
If you're happy to live your life in fantasy world, then  fair enough.
There's nothing I can do to make you see reality through the stories of what you adhere to from these people who sell you this utter CGI.

I have nothing against you for believing it, because, let's face it...you have nothing to marry it up against from anything physically real in your life, so why not adopt this.

shhh!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2n866bo.gif)
Ooops.  ;D

Take care yourself, they have strong arguments, you know.  ::)

(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AldrinPunch.gif)

This is Aldrin punch is more effective than Aldrin walking. He is my nightmare. ;D
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

 Bart did not knockout like me.

As a result, flat earth believes doesn't easy knockout.  ;D

I'm still confused on how a man falls  by a bit tripping in a place that g is 1/6 of world g?

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/61bba0777301e581471e0bec5a89e6d8/tumblr_o4mh59yIE71v2x721o1_400.gif)

If Bart could make a trip to Aldrin, he could win the match.  ;D

I don't usually resort to insults, but after this string of GIFs, all I can say is that you're a complete and utter idiot, Intikam.

All the photos and videos supporting the Apollo missions, globe shaped Earth, and a revolving earth are utter bullshit!  But these GIFs? Clearly they are genuine. Nothing to be skeptical about here!

What does this video prove or does not prove?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: CptObvious on May 10, 2017, 11:18:48 PM
I don't usually resort to insults, but after this string of GIFs, all I can say is that you're a complete and utter idiot, Intikam.
What does this video prove or does not prove?
What this proves?
I don't usually resort to insults, but after this string of GIFs video, all I can say is that you're a complete and utter idiot, Intikam.

But since you are ignoring me anyway, nvm.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sokarul on May 12, 2017, 06:57:00 AM
Watch the real video and you will see intikam 's is sped up.

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Matuchkin on May 13, 2017, 02:24:48 PM
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Now imagine that you trained your whole life in the air force, went through years and years of work and strain, became one of a select few of special people, and managed to be the first to see something that humanity collectively dreamed about for thousands of years- a one-time experience that will forever live in your heart, that will leave your thoughts and soul on the moon forever. Now, imagine a few degenerates telling you that you are a liar who maliciously deceives for no clear reason, and that you are merely part of a group who wants to control humanity. Imagine these degenerates saying into your face that you are a fake, a trope. If I was Aldrin, I'd punch that guy more than once.

Go on, tell us something else. Next thing I'll know, you'll be saying that the holocaust was fake, or something.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackSchitt on May 13, 2017, 04:08:49 PM
Hold up, so they cgi'd the whole mission pre launch and sent it to all the news outlets to broadcast live and they just managed to get the atmospheric conditions etc correct in rendering that it happens to match all amateur footage and eye witness testimonies of that day.

If you get the CCTV camera from a florida gas station on that day pointing towards Cape carnaviral funnily enough the cloud formations will magically be the same as the pre rendered images that spacex faked. Wow technology has come far
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 13, 2017, 11:42:32 PM
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Now imagine that you trained your whole life in the air force, went through years and years of work and strain, became one of a select few of special people, and managed to be the first to see something that humanity collectively dreamed about for thousands of years- a one-time experience that will forever live in your heart, that will leave your thoughts and soul on the moon forever. Now, imagine a few degenerates telling you that you are a liar who maliciously deceives for no clear reason, and that you are merely part of a group who wants to control humanity. Imagine these degenerates saying into your face that you are a fake, a trope. If I was Aldrin, I'd punch that guy more than once.

Go on, tell us something else. Next thing I'll know, you'll be saying that the holocaust was fake, or something.
If I really went to the moon like they made out they did, then I wouldn't be coming back and doing a press conference looking like I was under a mixture of terror, nervousness and depression.
I also would be more than happy to talk about my experiences from start to finish, with excited gusto.
Any person that came up to me to tell me I haven't been, I would smile and give an interview, for a good price, to save me wasting my time.

What I wouldn't do is get all angry and punch someone in frustration, because I wouldn't be frustrated. I would be still riding on the crest of a wave of happiness about what I achieved.

None of this stuff ever happened. They all looked edgy and as though they were under the strain of hiding something. I wonder what?

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 13, 2017, 11:44:38 PM
Hold up, so they cgi'd the whole mission pre launch and sent it to all the news outlets to broadcast live and they just managed to get the atmospheric conditions etc correct in rendering that it happens to match all amateur footage and eye witness testimonies of that day.

If you get the CCTV camera from a florida gas station on that day pointing towards Cape carnaviral funnily enough the cloud formations will magically be the same as the pre rendered images that spacex faked. Wow technology has come far
Who was it that had the good mind to go and get the CCTV camera from the gas station of the space x flight?
Tell me about it.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 13, 2017, 11:57:30 PM
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Now imagine that you trained your whole life in the air force, went through years and years of work and strain, became one of a select few of special people, and managed to be the first to see something that humanity collectively dreamed about for thousands of years- a one-time experience that will forever live in your heart, that will leave your thoughts and soul on the moon forever. Now, imagine a few degenerates telling you that you are a liar who maliciously deceives for no clear reason, and that you are merely part of a group who wants to control humanity. Imagine these degenerates saying into your face that you are a fake, a trope. If I was Aldrin, I'd punch that guy more than once.

Go on, tell us something else. Next thing I'll know, you'll be saying that the holocaust was fake, or something.
If I really went to the moon like they made out they did, then I wouldn't be coming back and doing a press conference looking like I was under a mixture of terror, nervousness and depression.
I also would be more than happy to talk about my experiences from start to finish, with excited gusto.
Any person that came up to me to tell me I haven't been, I would smile and give an interview, for a good price, to save me wasting my time.

What I wouldn't do is get all angry and punch someone in frustration, because I wouldn't be frustrated. I would be still riding on the crest of a wave of happiness about what I achieved.

None of this stuff ever happened. They all looked edgy and as though they were under the strain of hiding something. I wonder what?
I highly doubt that.
It isn't some random coming up to you telling you you haven't been.
It is someone that is repeatedly claiming it is all a lie and you are in on it.

They were under a strain, a strain of going to space, living in cramped quarters, no gravity and so on.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 12:11:43 AM

I highly doubt that.
It isn't some random coming up to you telling you you haven't been.
It is someone that is repeatedly claiming it is all a lie and you are in on it.

They were under a strain, a strain of going to space, living in cramped quarters, no gravity and so on.
Clap trap.
Just like the silly actors and actresses under severe strain on the fake ISS showing us how to brush our teeth and crap or piss into suction toilets and all the rest of the fun games they play, like chasing people in Gorilla suits, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Don't give me all this strain crap.
The only strain those people were under is the strain of keeping up a pathetic ruse  after realising that they will have to live out their entire lives facing the public and reeling off utter nonsense, then just waiting for the day when people start to realise what their game was.

In a small way (for some) I have some sympathy with the actornoughts, because they were probably coaxed into doing something under a guise of fooling the enemy and got too far into it  before realising the long term implications of trying to keep this nonsense up.


I'm serious when I say I feel sorry for some of them. I put myself in that position and wonder how I would react when I realise I have to spend the rest of my life telling the same fictional story, time and time again.
No wonder a lot of them went into recluse mode.

It's a bit different today because the actors and actresses are basically paid to do what all actors and actresses do. They play out any and all fantasies for a living and spend much of their entire lives on set doing just that, in any scenario bestowed upon them.
They don't really need scruples because their lives are scripted out for them and their existence if based on careful planning.

Stick to it and you live off the trappings. Go against it and you can be rendered a down and out nut case in a matter of weeks.

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: onebigmonkey on May 14, 2017, 12:27:20 AM
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Now imagine that you trained your whole life in the air force, went through years and years of work and strain, became one of a select few of special people, and managed to be the first to see something that humanity collectively dreamed about for thousands of years- a one-time experience that will forever live in your heart, that will leave your thoughts and soul on the moon forever. Now, imagine a few degenerates telling you that you are a liar who maliciously deceives for no clear reason, and that you are merely part of a group who wants to control humanity. Imagine these degenerates saying into your face that you are a fake, a trope. If I was Aldrin, I'd punch that guy more than once.

Go on, tell us something else. Next thing I'll know, you'll be saying that the holocaust was fake, or something.
If I really went to the moon like they made out they did, then I wouldn't be coming back and doing a press conference looking like I was under a mixture of terror, nervousness and depression.
I also would be more than happy to talk about my experiences from start to finish, with excited gusto.
Any person that came up to me to tell me I haven't been, I would smile and give an interview, for a good price, to save me wasting my time.

What I wouldn't do is get all angry and punch someone in frustration, because I wouldn't be frustrated. I would be still riding on the crest of a wave of happiness about what I achieved.

None of this stuff ever happened. They all looked edgy and as though they were under the strain of hiding something. I wonder what?

Convicted violent thug and proven fraud Bart Sibrel had been stalking Aldrin all day, repeatedly calling him a liar and a fake. Don't know about you, but if some prick stalked me while I went about my lawful business and publicly slandered me, I might just get a tad annoyed. He got what he deserved.

Tellingly, brother Bart's first reaction on being floored by a pensioner was not to call the police, not to remonstrate with Aldrin, but to ask if they got it on film. It's almost as if he got what he wanted so he could make his little film.

If your benchmark for fakery is whether astronauts give interviews to dickheads, several of them did grant interviews with Sibrel and also swore on the bible - which was his standard of proof. Applying your arbitrary standards of behaviour to someone else as a means of determining their honesty is just circular logic. Not everyone acts the same way and you don't know what anyone else's motives are.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 14, 2017, 12:37:00 AM
The only strain those people were under is the strain of keeping up a pathetic ruse  after realising that they will have to live out their entire lives facing the public and reeling off utter nonsense, then just waiting for the day when people start to realise what their game was.
Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 01:06:00 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Lonegranger on May 14, 2017, 01:56:09 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them

Wow that's rich coming from you.....what will all your Dome belief, with its vibrations and icy foundations, and how everything stops working when it gets up close!
Wow you must have been on some trip when you dreamt that one up, how's the vibrating going?
By the way did you take some cool pics of the icy foundations or was there too much camera shake?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackSchitt on May 14, 2017, 02:05:43 AM
Hold up, so they cgi'd the whole mission pre launch and sent it to all the news outlets to broadcast live and they just managed to get the atmospheric conditions etc correct in rendering that it happens to match all amateur footage and eye witness testimonies of that day.

If you get the CCTV camera from a florida gas station on that day pointing towards Cape carnaviral funnily enough the cloud formations will magically be the same as the pre rendered images that spacex faked. Wow technology has come far
Who was it that had the good mind to go and get the CCTV camera from the gas station of the space x flight?
Tell me about it.

I'm not saying that I have CCTV footage of the launch just that if amateur footage of that day, which there would be a lot, perfectly fits the atmospherics that have been created in the cgi days or weeks before. I know they do match, because if they didn't you lot would have taken that whistle and run a mile with it.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 02:22:15 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them

Wow that's rich coming from you.....what will all your Dome belief, with its vibrations and icy foundations, and how everything stops working when it gets up close!
Wow you must have been on some trip when you dreamt that one up, how's the vibrating going?
By the way did you take some cool pics of the icy foundations or was there too much camera shake?
Enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 02:25:48 AM
Hold up, so they cgi'd the whole mission pre launch and sent it to all the news outlets to broadcast live and they just managed to get the atmospheric conditions etc correct in rendering that it happens to match all amateur footage and eye witness testimonies of that day.

If you get the CCTV camera from a florida gas station on that day pointing towards Cape carnaviral funnily enough the cloud formations will magically be the same as the pre rendered images that spacex faked. Wow technology has come far
Who was it that had the good mind to go and get the CCTV camera from the gas station of the space x flight?
Tell me about it.

I'm not saying that I have CCTV footage of the launch just that if amateur footage of that day, which there would be a lot, perfectly fits the atmospherics that have been created in the cgi days or weeks before. I know they do match, because if they didn't you lot would have taken that whistle and run a mile with it.
So you're working on the IF. Ok fair enough.
If space rockets were real.....IF..... then people would be allowed to physically see the astronauts go into them but it never happens, except for when people like you tell us that it's all there to see and yet nobody eve does, apart from the people that nobody seems to actually know.

Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 14, 2017, 03:52:57 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 04:05:15 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: rabinoz on May 14, 2017, 04:09:54 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.

Remember that you are the one that said "The evidence is there", now put up or shut up.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackSchitt on May 14, 2017, 04:17:11 AM
Allow me to explore the Flat Earth Catch 22.

In order to disprove the flat earth you must make an observation yourself and be able to swear by your own observation, if not you are just taking what other people say under pure faith.

Now if you have done an observation yourself and come up with something disproving flat earth then you are clearly someone paid by NASA to lie.

You can't have it both ways guys.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 14, 2017, 04:34:11 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.
You are the one claiming there is evidence it is all fake.
You provide the evidence you are claiming exists.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: cerius on May 14, 2017, 05:09:21 AM
fellas fellas fellas....


someone wanna draw a line on that earth?

it's surprising that you want to "SEE" the curve in that shot in this video...someone draw a line for us at the horizon.

heh...

I heard the indians, upon seeing the ships of the spanish, could not "see" them...for they did not understand what and how they could be.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: frenat on May 14, 2017, 05:21:32 AM
Yeah, slugger Aldrin.  ;D
Imagine having to live nearly 50 years knowing you're hero worshipped for utter bullshit.

Now imagine that you trained your whole life in the air force, went through years and years of work and strain, became one of a select few of special people, and managed to be the first to see something that humanity collectively dreamed about for thousands of years- a one-time experience that will forever live in your heart, that will leave your thoughts and soul on the moon forever. Now, imagine a few degenerates telling you that you are a liar who maliciously deceives for no clear reason, and that you are merely part of a group who wants to control humanity. Imagine these degenerates saying into your face that you are a fake, a trope. If I was Aldrin, I'd punch that guy more than once.

Go on, tell us something else. Next thing I'll know, you'll be saying that the holocaust was fake, or something.
If I really went to the moon like they made out they did, then I wouldn't be coming back and doing a press conference looking like I was under a mixture of terror, nervousness and depression.
I also would be more than happy to talk about my experiences from start to finish, with excited gusto.
Any person that came up to me to tell me I haven't been, I would smile and give an interview, for a good price, to save me wasting my time.

What I wouldn't do is get all angry and punch someone in frustration, because I wouldn't be frustrated. I would be still riding on the crest of a wave of happiness about what I achieved.

None of this stuff ever happened. They all looked edgy and as though they were under the strain of hiding something. I wonder what?
I highly doubt that.
It isn't some random coming up to you telling you you haven't been.
It is someone that is repeatedly claiming it is all a lie and you are in on it.


Worse than that, he got aldrin to the interview under false pretenses, then when Aldrin tried to leave he was not just told it was a lie, he was physically blocked and shoved multiple times.  Sibrel was a jerk and as already mentioned, he wanted a confrontration.

As for the press conference, it is often cherry-picked to make it look worse.  There are parts where they look happy and others where they don't.  It doesn't mean much.  These pictures are from just before
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/464422main_S69-21365_full.jpg)
(http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/601353844-mobile-quarantine-facility-michael-collins-edwin-aldrin-neil-armstrong.jpg)
Gee they really look depressed.   ::)
Also consider that by the time of the press conference they have had time to realize they will never go into space again, and that no matter what else they do in life they'll be remembered for this only.  And they've been separated from their families for weeks and before they get to see them they have to sit through inane questions from the press.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 05:41:22 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.

Remember that you are the one that said "The evidence is there", now put up or shut up.
Same to you.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 05:43:11 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.
You are the one claiming there is evidence it is all fake.
You provide the evidence you are claiming exists.
Prove to me that rockets go into space and do the things we're coaxed into believing.
Physically prove it or forever hold your typing tongue/finger.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 05:47:26 AM

Worse than that, he got aldrin to the interview under false pretenses, then when Aldrin tried to leave he was not just told it was a lie, he was physically blocked and shoved multiple times.  Sibrel was a jerk and as already mentioned, he wanted a confrontration.

As for the press conference, it is often cherry-picked to make it look worse.  There are parts where they look happy and others where they don't.  It doesn't mean much.  These pictures are from just before
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/464422main_S69-21365_full.jpg)
(http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/601353844-mobile-quarantine-facility-michael-collins-edwin-aldrin-neil-armstrong.jpg)
Gee they really look depressed.   ::)
Also consider that by the time of the press conference they have had time to realize they will never go into space again, and that no matter what else they do in life they'll be remembered for this only.  And they've been separated from their families for weeks and before they get to see them they have to sit through inane questions from the press.
You absolutely reek...and I mean REEK of desperation to keep bullshit alive and kicking.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: frenat on May 14, 2017, 05:50:10 AM

Worse than that, he got aldrin to the interview under false pretenses, then when Aldrin tried to leave he was not just told it was a lie, he was physically blocked and shoved multiple times.  Sibrel was a jerk and as already mentioned, he wanted a confrontration.

As for the press conference, it is often cherry-picked to make it look worse.  There are parts where they look happy and others where they don't.  It doesn't mean much.  These pictures are from just before
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/464422main_S69-21365_full.jpg)
(http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/601353844-mobile-quarantine-facility-michael-collins-edwin-aldrin-neil-armstrong.jpg)
Gee they really look depressed.   ::)
Also consider that by the time of the press conference they have had time to realize they will never go into space again, and that no matter what else they do in life they'll be remembered for this only.  And they've been separated from their families for weeks and before they get to see them they have to sit through inane questions from the press.
You absolutely reek...and I mean REEK of desperation to keep bullshit alive and kicking.
So Sibrel didn't physically block Aldrin's path?  They didn't look happy in those photos?  They weren't separated from their families?  No, you couldn't say any of that because it is all true and you chose to attack the messenger instead.  Typical.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 06:02:49 AM

So Sibrel didn't physically block Aldrin's path?  They didn't look happy in those photos?  No, you couldn't say either of those because you chose to attack the messenger instead.  Typical.
I'm not really interested in Sibrel. I don't give a crap that he got punched or anything.
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: rabinoz on May 14, 2017, 06:15:28 AM
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
Evidence, Mr Sceptimatic! It's time you fronted up with the goods, instead of expecting us to believe your say so.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: frenat on May 14, 2017, 06:24:05 AM

So Sibrel didn't physically block Aldrin's path?  They didn't look happy in those photos?  No, you couldn't say either of those because you chose to attack the messenger instead.  Typical.
I'm not really interested in Sibrel. I don't give a crap that he got punched or anything.
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
And another opinion from you.  Too bad you have nothing to back it up.  As usual.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 06:48:28 AM
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
Evidence, Mr Sceptimatic! It's time you fronted up with the goods, instead of expecting us to believe your say so.
I don't expect you and people like you to believe anything. I don't care what you believe or don't believe.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: sceptimatic on May 14, 2017, 06:50:12 AM

So Sibrel didn't physically block Aldrin's path?  They didn't look happy in those photos?  No, you couldn't say either of those because you chose to attack the messenger instead.  Typical.
I'm not really interested in Sibrel. I don't give a crap that he got punched or anything.
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
And another opinion from you.  Too bad you have nothing to back it up.  As usual.
It doesn't matter what you think.
The people who matter are those that have enough about them to see where the potential truth a lie really sits.

Space rockets are a fantasy and a blatant lie.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: frenat on May 14, 2017, 06:52:06 AM

So Sibrel didn't physically block Aldrin's path?  They didn't look happy in those photos?  No, you couldn't say either of those because you chose to attack the messenger instead.  Typical.
I'm not really interested in Sibrel. I don't give a crap that he got punched or anything.
Regardless of Sibrel, these people have been nowhere near any frigging moon and they show it to this very day but they showed massive stress of trying to keep up a ruse, with most.
And another opinion from you.  Too bad you have nothing to back it up.  As usual.
It doesn't matter what you think.
The people who matter are those that have enough about them to see where the potential truth a lie really sits.

Space rockets are a fantasy and a blatant lie.
And still no evidence and resorting to attacking the messenger.  Got anything that isn't a logical fallacy?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 14, 2017, 07:07:01 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.
You are the one claiming there is evidence it is all fake.
You provide the evidence you are claiming exists.
Prove to me that rockets go into space and do the things we're coaxed into believing.
Physically prove it or forever hold your typing tongue/finger.
Pretty much the only way to physically prove that rockets go into space would be to physically have you be in one of those rockets.  Cameras are the next best way.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackSchitt on May 14, 2017, 07:08:10 AM
Ok using mathematics, science and flat earth proof produce evidence that space travel is impossible and has been faked
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Lonegranger on May 14, 2017, 07:45:58 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them

Wow that's rich coming from you.....what will all your Dome belief, with its vibrations and icy foundations, and how everything stops working when it gets up close!
Wow you must have been on some trip when you dreamt that one up, how's the vibrating going?
By the way did you take some cool pics of the icy foundations or was there too much camera shake?
Enjoy yourself.

Is that the best you can do? Or are you still 'vibrating' by the icy foundations?.....what a joke!
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Lonegranger on May 14, 2017, 07:53:55 AM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them

Wow that's rich coming from you.....what will all your Dome belief, with its vibrations and icy foundations, and how everything stops working when it gets up close!
Wow you must have been on some trip when you dreamt that one up, how's the vibrating going?
By the way did you take some cool pics of the icy foundations or was there too much camera shake?
Enjoy yourself.

Is that the best you can do? Or are you still 'vibrating' by the icy foundations?.....what a joke you are. You give so many people such a hard time but when asked to present evidence of your good vibrations or icy foundations.....you disappear into the woodwork....
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: JackBlack on May 14, 2017, 02:14:40 PM
Remember that you are the one that said "The evidence is there", now put up or shut up.
Same to you.
You have been provided with evidence and you ignore it.
Now care to provide any of your evidence?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Dog on May 17, 2017, 02:26:27 PM
Prove to me that rockets go into space and do the things we're coaxed into believing.
Physically prove it or forever hold your typing tongue/finger.

Aside from the thousands of obvious reasons:
You can do it yourself. Yes you can literally launch a rocket to space, and amateur groups have done it.

It doesn't matter how mystical/fake rockets seem to you, because they work. The math and physics all works out. This is not disputable because every 12 year old kid has seen it in action when they build a scale rocket and launch it in a field. Usually people move on after that but there is nothing stopping you from continuing. Build a bigger rocket, watch it go higher. Build it lighter, watch it go faster. Build it better, rinse and repeat. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing this yourself other than money (which I'm sure the FE community can come up with given how important this subject is to them). Of course orbit is another story, but a ragtag group of FErs could definitely pool some money together and put this question to rest.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: markjo on May 17, 2017, 02:44:47 PM

Utter claptrap.
They were never under any kind of strain from having to deceive the public.

You don't have a single shred of evidence or rational argument to suggest it being fake.
All you have a paranoid ramblings.
Dance about in a frenzy all you want. The evidence is there but you have to have the ability to spot liars and liars cannot be spotted by people who idolise them
If the evidence is there, why are you completely unable to provide any?
Can you provide physical evidence that you can vouch for for any of it?
If not then don't keep harping on about asking for evidence.
You are the one claiming there is evidence it is all fake.
You provide the evidence you are claiming exists.
Prove to me that rockets go into space and do the things we're coaxed into believing.
Physically prove it or forever hold your typing tongue/finger.
The evidence that rockets are going into space and delivering satellites into orbit is in the multitude of commercial services provided by many of those satellites. 
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Mikey T. on May 17, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
Prove to me that rockets go into space and do the things we're coaxed into believing.
Physically prove it or forever hold your typing tongue/finger.

Aside from the thousands of obvious reasons:
You can do it yourself. Yes you can literally launch a rocket to space, and amateur groups have done it.

It doesn't matter how mystical/fake rockets seem to you, because they work. The math and physics all works out. This is not disputable because every 12 year old kid has seen it in action when they build a scale rocket and launch it in a field. Usually people move on after that but there is nothing stopping you from continuing. Build a bigger rocket, watch it go higher. Build it lighter, watch it go faster. Build it better, rinse and repeat. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing this yourself other than money (which I'm sure the FE community can come up with given how important this subject is to them). Of course orbit is another story, but a ragtag group of FErs could definitely pool some money together and put this question to rest.
Seriously Dog, you are giving them much more credit than is deserved.  Why would they pool money together, hell why would they do anything to test an idea that may destroy their fantasy of being Luke or Leia Skywalker leading the rebels to destroy the evil conspiracy, all from their mom's basement.
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: rabinoz on May 17, 2017, 06:43:55 PM
So recently Space-X launched on the NROL-76 mission, taking off, flying to 166km and landing.
SpaceX NROL-76: Falcon 9 launch & landing, 1 May 2017A (http://)
This launch was during the day, with multiple cameras tracking the entire launch. Just wondering if anyone has any explanation for this mission using a flat earth model.
If "Australia isn't real" and Cogito ergo sum et ego in terra quĉ ad austrum sunt, et terra quĉ ad austrum est verum.
:( Latin doesn't believe Australia is real either. :(
But I'm in Australia, so where am I?
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: Bullwinkle on May 17, 2017, 08:51:41 PM
But I'm in Australia, so where am I?

In front of a keyboard? What do I win?   ;D
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: CptObvious on May 17, 2017, 10:49:46 PM
But I'm in Australia, so where am I?

38.882911, -77.016571.

Yo part of it!
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: rabinoz on May 18, 2017, 12:44:15 AM
But I'm in Australia, so where am I?

In front of a keyboard? What do I win?   ;D
Incorrect! Watch here for later developments.  ::)
Title: Re: NROL-76 Launch
Post by: rabinoz on May 18, 2017, 12:57:29 AM
But I'm in Australia, so where am I?

38.882911°, -77.016571°.

Yo part of it!
If I was there I'd wander over to the Smithsonian, but it's a bit of a hike from here, especially as I'm told that Australia does not exist.