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Which game should I buy?

Dead Island
0 (0%)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
4 (21.1%)
Rage
0 (0%)
Mass Effect 2
4 (21.1%)
Elder Scrolls Skyrim
11 (57.9%)

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Which game should I buy?

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Crustinator

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Which game should I buy?
« on: October 27, 2011, 01:07:57 PM »
PC Platform. My PC is shit hot and doesn't afraid of anyone.

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Blanko

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 01:08:28 PM »
>buy
>PC game

lolwut

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Crustinator

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 01:11:47 PM »
 ??? I'm happy to part with cash for good work.

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Vindictus

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »
Um. Which kind of genre do you enjoy most?

I'd have to say Skyrim, but it depends on what you enjoy.

Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 01:20:09 PM »
Skyrim.

>buy
>PC game

lolwut
You buy music, so why wouldn't he buy games?

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rooster

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 01:49:23 PM »
Skyrim

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 01:56:41 PM »
Having not played the other choices I vote Mass Effect 2.
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 01:56:56 PM »
You buy music, so why wouldn't he buy games?

I can't pirate vinyl.

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Verrine

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 02:00:00 PM »
Final Fantasy VII

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Ocius

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 02:15:21 PM »
Mass Effect 2

Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 02:18:20 PM »
Skyrim, of course. Fus ro DUH.

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rooster

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2011, 02:29:37 PM »
I haven't played Dead Island yet, but I've heard good things. Aside from Skyrim it will be the next game I buy. 

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 03:04:49 PM »
Deus Ex. It's holyshitawesome. Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang. Get ME2 at some point before ME3 comes out, if you find gameplay shallow then get ME1, maybe try RAGE if you feel like it and don't waste your fucking time with Dead Island. It's good for the ten minutes that just running around killing zombies is fun, but I just couldn't bring myself to give even the tiniest fuck about doing any missions.

Maybe get it if you really like Borderlands.
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 03:07:03 PM »
Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang.

Yeah, fuck them for doing standard legal practices.

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 03:15:57 PM »
Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang.

Yeah, fuck them for doing standard legal practices.

I didn't know you could legally trademark a word. Given that the case was thrown out (precisely because you can't), I'd say I'm right.

That was standard legal bullshit was what that was.
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2011, 03:16:17 PM »
Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang.

Yeah, fuck them for doing standard legal practices.

Yeah, screw Zenimax, the ones who make Elder Scrolls gam-waitwuuuh..


I haven't played Dead Island yet, but I've heard good things. Aside from Skyrim it will be the next game I buy

Incorrect.  :-*
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Vindictus

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2011, 03:57:55 PM »
Deus Ex. It's holyshitawesome. Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang. Get ME2 at some point before ME3 comes out, if you find gameplay shallow then get ME1, maybe try RAGE if you feel like it and don't waste your fucking time with Dead Island. It's good for the ten minutes that just running around killing zombies is fun, but I just couldn't bring myself to give even the tiniest fuck about doing any missions.

Maybe get it if you really like Borderlands.

The developers and the legal department are different sections.

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rooster

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2011, 04:57:09 PM »

I haven't played Dead Island yet, but I've heard good things. Aside from Skyrim it will be the next game I buy

Incorrect.  :-*
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2011, 06:15:22 PM »
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Parsifal

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 04:03:49 AM »
PC Platform.

There are at least a good dozen or so operating systems (distinguishing by binary compatibility, as I'm assuming you're buying a game in binary executable form) that you could be running on your PC. Please be more specific.
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 04:08:05 AM »
Then pirate Skyrim because fuck them for what they tried to do to Mojang.

Yeah, fuck them for doing standard legal practices.

I didn't know you could legally trademark a word. Given that the case was thrown out (precisely because you can't), I'd say I'm right.

That was standard legal bullshit was what that was.

What I heard is that if they don't do shit like that, the copyright claim to the Elder Scrolls games can be contested on the grounds that they don't defend their copyright.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Parsifal

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 04:46:29 AM »
What I heard is that if they don't do shit like that, the copyright claim to the Elder Scrolls games can be contested on the grounds that they don't defend their copyright.

What? That's like saying that because you don't prosecute your neighbour for falsely using your name, you no longer have the right not to be robbed.

There's so much fail in this discussion. Let's clear up a couple of points:

First, copyright law and trademark law are not related, interdependent, or similar in purpose, scope or effect. Copyright law applies to a specific work of art (and in recent times, software) and is automatically assigned to the author upon creation of said work. It is intended to provide a temporary monopoly on the distribution of a specific work in order to encourage publication of creative works.

Trademark law, on the other hand, applies to a brand, or the name of a product -- it is unrelated to that product's actual content, but rather intended to provide protection for a name. This ultimately benefits users of the work to which that name applies by preventing third parties from masquerading their product under the same title. It also differs from copyright law in that it is not automatic -- a registered trademark must be applied for, and an unregistered trademark must still be actively used in order to be honoured in court.

Second, copyright does not go away just because you aren't enforcing your artificial monopoly on the work. In fact, this is a very big problem in cases where software authors give their software away but do not consider the copyright that is automatically granted to them when doing so -- simply giving away the work does not cause you to lose the exclusive right to distribute it, and such software cannot be included in many free software distributions even though it is freely available to use. It is even more ludicrous to suggest that not enforcing a trademark -- something completely unrelated to a copyright -- could cause one's copyright to be jeopardised.

Now, what you might have heard is that if they don't defend their trademark, then their trademark can be contested. This is a valid and correct point, and this may indeed be the basis on which they filed a lawsuit. However, as I've said above, this has absolutely nothing to do with their copyright on works of authorship.

Please do not confuse these issues.
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Vindictus

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2011, 05:07:07 AM »
In case you weren't aware, Bethesda's legal department sued Mojang over the use of the name 'Scrolls' for their new game. It's a silly case because neither game is remotely similar, and most people refer to Elder Scrolls as their respective names; Oblivion, Skyrim, Morrowind etc.

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Parsifal

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2011, 05:11:38 AM »
In case you weren't aware, Bethesda's legal department sued Mojang over the use of the name 'Scrolls' for their new game.

I did perform a web search for the issue before responding, so that I knew what I was responding to.

It's a silly case because neither game is remotely similar,

Irrelevant. See my point above about trademark law applying to a name, rather than the product or work associated with that name.

and most people refer to Elder Scrolls as their respective names; Oblivion, Skyrim, Morrowind etc.

Again, irrelevant, as what people refer to the work by does not alter the trademark(s) in use by its publisher.
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Vindictus

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2011, 05:20:14 AM »
I understand that, but why do you think they lodged this case to begin with? Does the purpose justify it? It seems pointless.

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Parsifal

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2011, 05:21:07 AM »
I understand that, but why do you think they lodged this case to begin with? Does the purpose justify it? It seems pointless.

I agree with you, but people seem to be confused about the relevant facts, so I was trying to explain them as objectively as possible.
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Wendy

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2011, 05:44:38 AM »
What I heard is that if they don't do shit like that, the copyright claim to the Elder Scrolls games can be contested on the grounds that they don't defend their copyright.

What? That's like saying that because you don't prosecute your neighbour for falsely using your name, you no longer have the right not to be robbed.

There's so much fail in this discussion. Let's clear up a couple of points:

First, copyright law and trademark law are not related, interdependent, or similar in purpose, scope or effect. Copyright law applies to a specific work of art (and in recent times, software) and is automatically assigned to the author upon creation of said work. It is intended to provide a temporary monopoly on the distribution of a specific work in order to encourage publication of creative works.

Trademark law, on the other hand, applies to a brand, or the name of a product -- it is unrelated to that product's actual content, but rather intended to provide protection for a name. This ultimately benefits users of the work to which that name applies by preventing third parties from masquerading their product under the same title. It also differs from copyright law in that it is not automatic -- a registered trademark must be applied for, and an unregistered trademark must still be actively used in order to be honoured in court.

Second, copyright does not go away just because you aren't enforcing your artificial monopoly on the work. In fact, this is a very big problem in cases where software authors give their software away but do not consider the copyright that is automatically granted to them when doing so -- simply giving away the work does not cause you to lose the exclusive right to distribute it, and such software cannot be included in many free software distributions even though it is freely available to use. It is even more ludicrous to suggest that not enforcing a trademark -- something completely unrelated to a copyright -- could cause one's copyright to be jeopardised.

Now, what you might have heard is that if they don't defend their trademark, then their trademark can be contested. This is a valid and correct point, and this may indeed be the basis on which they filed a lawsuit. However, as I've said above, this has absolutely nothing to do with their copyright on works of authorship.

Please do not confuse these issues.

Okay. Sorry for the confusion. :)
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Crustinator

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2011, 06:53:20 AM »
Skyrim, of course. Fus ro DUH.

Yeah. It looks awful purdy.  I got sucked into Morrowind big time fo sho. I'm trying to avoid the kinds of games where I run home to play it. Or get up early so I can get an hour of play in.

There's such a thing as TOO good.

Please be more specific.

I went into my local DRM managed games emporium and asked where their GNU/Linux games were. They just messed up my hair, kicked me in the balls and threw me out. What should I do now?

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Parsifal

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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 07:01:20 AM »
I went into my local DRM managed games emporium and asked where their GNU/Linux games were. They just messed up my hair, kicked me in the balls and threw me out. What should I do now?

You need to go back and ask them again. They won't stock GNU/Linux games until they get the hint that people want to buy them.
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Re: Which game should I buy?
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 07:21:11 AM »
I went into my local DRM managed games emporium and asked where their GNU/Linux games were. They just messed up my hair, kicked me in the balls and threw me out. What should I do now?

You need to go back and ask them again. They won't stock GNU/Linux games until they get the hint that people want to buy them.

People do not want them because only an insignificant minority uses Linux.
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