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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Polaris Constellation Never Be Seen 90° Height
« on: May 16, 2024, 06:14:57 AM »
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Polaris Constellation Never Be Seen 90° Height
« on: May 16, 2024, 03:18:45 AM »
No evidence so far that from "north pole" the polaris appears 90° high.
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Flat Earth Debate / Polaris Constellation Never Be Seen 90° Height
« on: May 16, 2024, 02:01:30 AM »
Isn't it easy to reach "north pole"? (it's actually "north rim"). Why people cannot see polaris with angle 90°?
School's theories are currently in severe crisis. No wonder. ✌️
School's theories are currently in severe crisis. No wonder. ✌️
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Predetermined Pi in Calculator Program???
« on: May 16, 2024, 12:36:44 AM »
Jack said:
"The length of the arc MUST fall between the length based upon sine and the length based upon the tangent"
>> This is already debunked by analizing tiny angle with big scale of radius. It found out that tangent and sine lengths are relatively IDENTICAL.
Any sine length cannot exceed tangent length, but the ARC is another story. It runs beyond tangent length since the beginning. Till tangent length rules at certain quite small angles up to tangent 45.
"The length of the arc MUST fall between the length based upon sine and the length based upon the tangent"
>> This is already debunked by analizing tiny angle with big scale of radius. It found out that tangent and sine lengths are relatively IDENTICAL.
Any sine length cannot exceed tangent length, but the ARC is another story. It runs beyond tangent length since the beginning. Till tangent length rules at certain quite small angles up to tangent 45.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 15, 2024, 07:19:06 AM »
By projection, the quality of cube's side length equals 100% × cube side length.
The quality of cone's height length equals 50% × cube height length.
The quality of cone's height length equals 50% × cube height length.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 15, 2024, 07:14:54 AM »
Note: the projected triangle area of cone represent quality of height. Even though it's area (2D), it can indicates a lenght (1D).
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 15, 2024, 06:38:26 AM »
1. By projection, cone shape is like a triangle. So the segment area equals 0.5 part.
2. Such area needs quadrat of two sides (not diagonals) whose value equals 0.707107 part.
By the way, in your calculation, what cubic is its size?
2. Such area needs quadrat of two sides (not diagonals) whose value equals 0.707107 part.
By the way, in your calculation, what cubic is its size?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 03:10:16 AM »Danang, I would have voted, but your poll is wrong. π ≈ 3.1415 , not = 3.1415
Just go for it. Vote for Pi. If your vote wins, I hope that will make you happy. 🤣✌️
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 03:08:15 AM »More so, when I found out later about an experiment of peer pressure where plants all gave the wrong answer to a which line is bigger question.And have you bothered reading that?
https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
Firstly, it was only 32% of the time that it actually worked.
Later experiments showed that going beyond 5 people has no significant effect, but having a single dissenter does dramatically reduce conformity.If we are to trust our actual visionOur vision is quite often mislead with lots of optical illusions based upon that.
And this has nothing at all to do with if the line terminates or not.
That is just a bad drawing.
This is just Danang spouting insane crap to claim pi is wrong.
Where's your calculation? Where? ~
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 03:07:03 AM »Despite the terminus line, the red cone is still bigger in terms of volume.
Today, I finally get my revenge.
Revenge what, darling? 🤔
So Phew FE becomes common opponent then.
That's quite alright. It's good to consolidate Phew concept. Thanks sweety 😊🙏
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 02:58:08 AM »
There is unique comparison of round based cone : sphere 👉 1: 6.34314 AKA 1 : C
Or for both round based cones 👉 1 : 3.17157 AKA 1 : PHEW 👌
Or for both round based cones 👉 1 : 3.17157 AKA 1 : PHEW 👌
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 02:51:03 AM »
I encaurage you to show me the same: calculation.
if any ~
if any ~
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 02:43:39 AM »
Again, it's actually "times height" which equals 1.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 14, 2024, 02:42:01 AM ».
Next Round Based Cone.
Compared to a circle line, radian equals straight line.
So the two diameters of round 1.58579 each to be changed to become two diagonals on Flat Surface. Side equals Diagonal times 0.5√2. Then area = (0.5√2 x 1.58579)^2 = 1.25736. And dont forget to round the height of 1 by 0.79289. Thrn you got 0.79289 × 1 × 1.25736 = 0.99695.
Both cones have the same 0.99695.
There should be 0.5 multiple coz it's a cone. So the volume of round based cone equals (round side times round side) × 0.5 = (1.58579×0.707107)^2 × 0.5 = 0.62868
Yeah.. I'm not full timer in Phew, sometimes failed in details. So you got one point this time.
Score
Me: 7535687643456788865545
You : 1
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 06:53:10 PM »
Before calculating the cone, let's go to the sphere formula, which based on the reduction of the three dimensions: length, width and height AKA Side. Each dimention will be arc ratio x side = 0.79289 × 2. So Volume of Sphere equals (0.79289 × 2)^3 = 1.58579^3 = 3,9878.
Sphere calculation require the three dimentions to get reduced by 0.79289. Cone calculation is derivative of Sphere, so these three dihentikan must be reduced by 0.79289.
Now Flat Based Cone:
Side Length = 2
Width Length = 2
Height=1
Round Side Length = arc ratio x side length = 0.79289 × 2 = 1.58579
Round Side Width = arc ratio x side width = 0.79289 × 2 = 1.58579
Base Area = 1.58579 x 1.58579 = 2.51473
The height looks round, so it also needs to be reduced with 0.79289 >> The result = 0.79289 × 2.51473 = 1.99391
Since its shape is cone, time it by 0.5 and you got 1.99391 : 2 = 0.99695. That's the volume of cone for height = 1. The rest, time it with any height according the height of the cone you are calculating. You knew it right?
Its volume is one fourth of a sphere.
Next Round Based Cone.
Compared to a circle line, radian equals straight line.
So the two diameters of round 1.58579 each to be changed to become two diagonals on Flat Surface. Side equals Diagonal times 0.5√2. Then area = (0.5√2 x 1.58579)^2 = 1.25736. And dont forget to round the height of 1 by 0.79289. Thrn you got 0.79289 × 1 × 1.25736 = 0.99695.
Both cones have the same 0.99695.
Sphere calculation require the three dimentions to get reduced by 0.79289. Cone calculation is derivative of Sphere, so these three dihentikan must be reduced by 0.79289.
Now Flat Based Cone:
Side Length = 2
Width Length = 2
Height=1
Round Side Length = arc ratio x side length = 0.79289 × 2 = 1.58579
Round Side Width = arc ratio x side width = 0.79289 × 2 = 1.58579
Base Area = 1.58579 x 1.58579 = 2.51473
The height looks round, so it also needs to be reduced with 0.79289 >> The result = 0.79289 × 2.51473 = 1.99391
Since its shape is cone, time it by 0.5 and you got 1.99391 : 2 = 0.99695. That's the volume of cone for height = 1. The rest, time it with any height according the height of the cone you are calculating. You knew it right?
Its volume is one fourth of a sphere.
Next Round Based Cone.
Compared to a circle line, radian equals straight line.
So the two diameters of round 1.58579 each to be changed to become two diagonals on Flat Surface. Side equals Diagonal times 0.5√2. Then area = (0.5√2 x 1.58579)^2 = 1.25736. And dont forget to round the height of 1 by 0.79289. Thrn you got 0.79289 × 1 × 1.25736 = 0.99695.
Both cones have the same 0.99695.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 05:01:56 PM »
Volume 4.188 is too prominent to see, if compared to half cube. It looks not 50% of 8.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 04:59:18 PM »
So... you have no calculation available?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 09:59:44 AM »
The following is a real experiment of sphere volume. Sphere and cone has special relation of comparison right?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 09:53:42 AM »I spent a solid 20 minutes creating an Excel spreadsheet with depictions, detailing the question, the context of the question, a breakdown of the visual provided as an aid to answer the question, and the assumptions I made due to not being given any units whatsoever.
Then I read Danang's post that I am not to use the formulae I learned in elementary / middle school regarding geometry. This rules out... pretty much everything.
Danang, what system of mathematics are you using to arrive at your conclusions? Why am I not allowed to use standard 'mainstream' mathematics?
I am for Phew = 3,17157, and usually I posted my concept about it at Technology, Science & Alt Science section. Please check out.
Please show me the mainstream calculation to explain both cones volume. I never forbade anyone to post their thoughts. 👌
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 09:47:56 AM »
To those who couldn't show me the calculation, thank you very much. Hope next time you'll convert to Phew 👌
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 01:40:10 AM »
waiting for Pi explanation
9... 8... 7... 6... 
9... 8... 7... 6...
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 12, 2024, 01:39:14 AM »
So .... Phew is awesome right?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:29:40 PM »Both cones (with and without dome) have the same volume.By this do you mean the blue cone, including the spherical cap, has the same volume as the red cone?
If so, that would happen at some angle.School's formulas cannot be applied.Yes it can, as you are yet to show fault with it, and spouting baseless BS wont change that.Explanation with calculation pleaseWhy? Why don't you cut the crap and get to the point?
You too has no explanation based on calculation & formula?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:28:09 PM »
(((( h = r/2 ))))
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:17:47 PM »
The wide of the round cone of course phew:2 or 90°
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:16:59 PM »
The flat one, or the round?
are you talking about just "cone" or "spherical cone" because if we're talking about just cone, then JB jas covered it. but for spherical cone, if the distance between two blue dots is taken as 'h' then the volume of the red cone is equal to the volume of blue spherical cone when h = r/2 . if h < r/2 then blue volume is greater and vice versa. if your drawing is to scale, then the blue volume is indeed smaller.
Explanation with calculation please
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:13:15 PM »but first, answer this : why is sin(3.1715/4) ≈ 0.7123 when sin(45°) = 1/√2 ≈ 0.707 ?
Pi has RIP. Try again. 👌
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:11:45 PM »
School's formulas cannot be applied. In ball industri, for instance. Sphere Area is not (around) 50% of cube area. It's around 2/3 part. Phew calculation >> 15.088 : 24
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:07:21 PM »
Both cones (with and without dome) have the same volume.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Which Cone Has The Bigger Volume?
« on: May 11, 2024, 09:02:28 PM »
Flat surface cannot be applied to round surface. So constant 1/3 makes the sphere volume go beyond 1/2 of cube volume.
More over the sphere's area becomes too narrow than it should be.
More over the sphere's area becomes too narrow than it should be.