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What truth? Again, who cares?I care about the shape of the Earth, case closed.
yes but three times that drive me nuts and I have to say something, and have a hard time putting it in to wordsKnowledge of my spelign is as old as earth=OAt times my spelling, gets in my way to, what I want to say too. you are not the only one.
did I use the wright to, too, two; in the wright place? where is my grammar checker?
You could simply not post if you are not sure.
Knowledge of my spelign is as old as earth=OAt times my spelling, gets in my way to, what I want to say too. you are not the only one.
did I use the wright to, too, two; in the wright place? where is my grammar checker?
Why does anyone here care if the world is flat or spherical?
Why does anyone here care about the truth?
Can you provide a reference to a Bible verse that says the earth is flat? That's what no one else has provided.Did you even read what I said?
Once more, the Bible does not directly say Earth is flat. There is no verse where it just says "Earth is flat".
Instead, it describes Earth in various ways which only work for a FE. i.e. it describes Earth as flat.
This is not hard to understand.
Not sure what you are talking about.This part:If the Bible said the earth is flat, it would be at the top of every list of why the earth is flat. But, it's not at the top of anyone's list... because the Bible doesn't say the earth is flat.Simply pointing out that the mention of a "circle" is not remotely the same as saying the earth is flat.Good thing I'm not. Instead I am using it in context to explain why it is a FE depiction.
I am not just pointing out circle and ignoring the rest.
That would be you.
In the same sense, anyone reading the Bible at the time it was written would have no sense of the earth being a disc.So you know what they believed earth was?
Please educate me, rather than just saying I'm wrong.I did. Perhaps try reading what I said rather than just ignoring it?
You basically entirely ignored the verse, focused on a single word, and then tried to say that word doesn't mean Earth is flat.
Here it is again:QuoteIt is not merely saying there is a centre. It was saying there is a tree growing in the centre that is visible from everywhere.Going to read it this time? Or will you continue to ignore it?
I've noticed that you do that a lot. Rather than actually try to understand an issue, you simply want to prove others wrong. That's not a productive conversation.Great job projecting.
That is exactly what you have done.
Entirely ignored the vast majority of what was said, pick a single point to latch on and misrepresent, and then entirely ignore the explanation, just to claim the other person is wrong.
Which you have failed to show.No, which I have shown, and you have failed to even attempt to challenge.
You even left the quotes explaining why in your post, entirely unchallenged.
Where does the Bible say the earth is flat?It doesn't directly state it. Instead, it describes Earth in a manner which is only consistent with Earth being flat.
There are plenty of examples, such as the account of creation in Genesis, where God is creating the entire universe, and you have evening and morning pass to end the day.
There is where God sits above the circle of Earth and stretches out the heavens like a tent, describing Earth as flat with a firmament.
You have Jesus being taken to a tall mountain to see all the kingdoms of Earth.
I also notice you entirely abandoned the latter part of your argument. Why?
Circles also exist on a sphere, being pretty much what you see from any angle. So, mentioning a circle in no way implies "flat". You do see that, no?And this is just trying to dismiss it.
Sitting above the circle of Earth makes no sense for a sphere. But does for a flat surface.
Precisely because it would meaningless because a sphere is a circle from all direction, so any direction it would be as a circle, not just above.Of course a sphere has a center.And this is you really just looking for any excuse to dismiss it being flat, without even caring to understand the words in context.
It is not merely saying there is a centre. It was saying there is a tree growing in the centre that is visible from everywhere.Not totally true. All the earth, known at that time, is visible in one view from a great distance.So God didn't no about them?
The alleged creator of the world didn't know?
Jesus didn't know?
Satan didn't know?
The Bible is a work of fictionAnd in this fictional work, Earth is described as flat.
Bible mentions the stationary Earth, the Firmament, the waters located above the Firmament, the Foundations of the earth, the shape as circle, the extremities and so on:
THE CIRCLE
(Proverbs 8:26-27) "He had not yet made the earth, or the fields, or the first atom of dust in the world. When He established the heavens, I was there; when He drew a circle on the surface of the deep."
(Isaiah 40:22) "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth..."
A circle is a flat surface in two dimensions where all points are equidistant from a single point called the "center."
THE EXTREMITIES
(Daniel 4:10-11) "I looked, and behold, there was a tree in the midst of the earth of great height. The tree grew and became strong, its top reached to the heavens, and it was visible to the ends of all the earth."
(Job 38:13 TMN) "...to take hold of the ends of the earth, so that the wicked might be shaken out of it."
(Deuteronomy 13:7 BLS) "...from among the peoples who surround you, near or far, from one end of the earth to the other."
Not only does a spherical earth lack a center, but the verses mention extremities. It goes without saying that a spherical earth has no extremities.
THE WHOLE
(Matthew 4: 8 TMN) "The Devil took Him to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory."
On a globe, no matter how high one goes, one would never be able to see the entirety of the world.
Funny how that works. Funny how high elevation, low population areas in Vermont or Colorado get complete crap signals when there should be satellites high in the sky and they are in a high and open location, but once you build towers and FiOS systems and the like, perfect signal.
Funny how a person surrounded by buildings should be in a satellite valley (not high, not open), yet often get a better signal than that guy above trying on a mountaintop.
Everyone knows the Bible does not say the earth is flat. If the Bible said the earth is flat, it would be at the top of every list of why the earth is flat. But, it's not at the top of anyone's list... because the Bible doesn't say the earth is flat.Plenty of people realise it describes Earth as flat.
And some FEers use that as a key argument, rejecting literally anything that could possibly show Earth isn't flat as "But Bible says flat".
The reason most wouldn't go down that path is because they seem to desire flat Earth at least appearing reasonable, as if it is based upon evidence. Especially those that want to say belief in a round Earth is a religious belief where you just accept what people tell you with no evidence to support it. Appealing to the Bible wont help with that.
I am issuing a 100 day bam to everyone who has posted in this thread.
Walks on water!Quote1Then Job answered and said,https://biblehub.com/kjv/job/9.htm
2I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
3If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.
4He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
5Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which overturneth them in his anger.
6Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
7Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
8Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
There's nothing God can't do.
Can God create a rock so heavy, that even he can't lift it?
No.
So then, God is not all powerful.
Its a paradoxal loaded question.
Yes, attack the man when you have no argument to hold yourself up with. Typical camp round earth shenanigans.
Turn back now, before you get yourself in trouble. There are things at play... that would make any mortal mind shake to match their hands as ...There are no direct commercial flights, at least at the time, to the Antarctic rim. I had chartered a boat. When the time came, they cancelled with a flimsy excuse that didn't cut the mustard an hour before departure. Upon attempting booking with the few other options, I found it an impossible task.There were no direct flights, at least at the time, to the Antarctic rim. It was those in Punta Arenas that denied access.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.
I provided evidence here at the time of my trip and even sent a postcard to another member to help validate this claim.
You were denied "access" to Antarctica by whom? Was it the airline who realized you were not like other people? What are you talking about?
Denied access to what? Are you saying they would not let you enter Chile? Or they would not let you fly to Antarctica from Chile?
It could be completely mundane, or it could be something more insidious. However its worth it to note - a representation of the flat earth society attempted travel to the Antarctic and was denied access (which is obviously to say the means to access).
Are you a representative of the flat earth society? I didn't know they had "representatives". Why would that matter to anyone?QuoteQuoteRecognized in public for my association with The Flat Earth Society. IIRC even at the time I had been interviewed by the BBC and other organizations.QuoteIt wouldn't be the first time I've been recognized.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.First time what?
Sorry, recognized as what? You aren't making sense to me.
Why would anyone care about your association with the flat earthers? Are you saying the globe earthers control all transportation?
Just turn back. While the dark one still sleeps, awake, and watching.
There are no direct commercial flights, at least at the time, to the Antarctic rim. I had chartered a boat. When the time came, they cancelled with a flimsy excuse that didn't cut the mustard an hour before departure. Upon attempting booking with the few other options, I found it an impossible task.There were no direct flights, at least at the time, to the Antarctic rim. It was those in Punta Arenas that denied access.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.
I provided evidence here at the time of my trip and even sent a postcard to another member to help validate this claim.
You were denied "access" to Antarctica by whom? Was it the airline who realized you were not like other people? What are you talking about?
Denied access to what? Are you saying they would not let you enter Chile? Or they would not let you fly to Antarctica from Chile?
It could be completely mundane, or it could be something more insidious. However its worth it to note - a representation of the flat earth society attempted travel to the Antarctic and was denied access (which is obviously to say the means to access).
QuoteRecognized in public for my association with The Flat Earth Society. IIRC even at the time I had been interviewed by the BBC and other organizations.QuoteIt wouldn't be the first time I've been recognized.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.First time what?
Sorry, recognized as what? You aren't making sense to me.
There are no direct flights, at least at the time, to the Antarctic rim. It was those in Punta Arenas that denied access.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.
I provided evidence here at the time of my trip and even sent a postcard to another member to help validate this claim.
You were denied "access" to Antarctica by whom? Was it the airline who realized you were not like other people? What are you talking about?
It wouldn't be the first time I've been recognized.As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.First time what?
As we all know, I attempted to travel to the Antarctic and was denied access. Its quite possible they recognized me as it wouldn't be the first time.
I provided evidence here at the time of my trip and even sent a postcard to another member to help validate this claim.
I think I demonstrated that you don't think.
Can a mechanic build an engine so complex he himself is unable to work on it?
No, he built it.
