The Great Reset

Let's talk about the globalist plan to build back better.

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.

The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.

What could go wrong?

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The conspiracy machine is getting into high gear already...   I wonder if they can merge with Q? 

I take it the conspiracy front is aligned along a notion that this is some sort of socialist new world order masonic thing? I ask because today is the first time I'd heard of this 'build back better' business. So I'm just now starting to look into it and don't know much about it at present.

The conspiracy machine is getting into high gear already...   I wonder if they can merge with Q?

James Lindsay says this is not a conspiracy because they're not hiding anything.



"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy"

Sounds kinda like a communist utopia!

Even UPS has an article about it https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/knowledge-center/article.page?kid=art173718ac052&articlesource=longitudes

This is the weirdest one I've read so far, and it's from 2016. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/  I guess this idea has been around for a long time, and COVID is giving it life.  I read something that says International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.

Meh.
Reading beyond the worthless pitch, its basically a liberal adgenda: sustainability, taxes higher on the rich, etc...just all at once and across the world.

Not exacly a conspiracy.

Oh no, people are trying to make the world a better place.  Scary.

Oh no, JJA didn't read any of the weird stuff.

Oh no, JJA didn't read any of the weird stuff.

What weird stuff is that?  I saw a press release basically saying they want to change stuff that's bad and make it not bad.  Nothing in there made me feel like my very existence was in danger or that they were going to be 'coming for me' or anything else to fear.

What exactly about this scares you?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 17, 2020, 05:35:22 PM

Oh no, JJA didn't read any of the weird stuff.

What weird stuff is that?  I saw a press release basically saying they want to change stuff that's bad and make it not bad.  Nothing in there made me feel like my very existence was in danger or that they were going to be 'coming for me' or anything else to fear.

What exactly about this scares you?

Lets start here...

On Monday morning, the phrase “The Great Reset” trended with nearly 80,000 tweets, with most of the posts coming from familiar far-right internet personalities. The conspiracy alleges that a cabal of elites has long planned for the pandemic so that they could use it to impose their global economic control on the masses. In some versions of the unfounded rumor, it is only President Trump who is thwarting this plan and keeping the scheme at bay.

The claim is that the coronavirus is being exploited to enforce a new world order,  "The Great Reset".   It spins out of control from there. 

Quote from: JJA on November 17, 2020, 05:53:41 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 17, 2020, 05:35:22 PM

Oh no, JJA didn't read any of the weird stuff.

What weird stuff is that?  I saw a press release basically saying they want to change stuff that's bad and make it not bad.  Nothing in there made me feel like my very existence was in danger or that they were going to be 'coming for me' or anything else to fear.

What exactly about this scares you?

Lets start here...

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On Monday morning, the phrase “The Great Reset” trended with nearly 80,000 tweets, with most of the posts coming from familiar far-right internet personalities. The conspiracy alleges that a cabal of elites has long planned for the pandemic so that they could use it to impose their global economic control on the masses. In some versions of the unfounded rumor, it is only President Trump who is thwarting this plan and keeping the scheme at bay.

The claim is that the coronavirus is being exploited to enforce a new world order,  "The Great Reset".   It spins out of control from there.

Where is that quote from?  I don't see it mentioned anywhere earlier.

Is that "Great Reset" quote even related to this web site or is it just a coincidental name?

Right wing, left wing... there are thousands of groups out there pushing their agendas and nobody has time to worry about all of them.  If there is some evidence this one is particularly sinister, then go protest it or shed light on their plans but I'm just not going to get worked up about every single group of people who throw up a web site about their particular obsession or ideas or propaganda.

I have a President openly flaunting the rule of law and the Constitution who I am currently a bit more worried about than whoever these guys are. 

Well, if you don't want to talk about it, you don't have to participate in the thread. This is a forum, we like to talk about stuff. Sorry if that scares you.

Where is that quote from?  I don't see it mentioned anywhere earlier.

It's from the New York Times. 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/17/world/covid-19-coronavirus#the-baseless-great-reset-conspiracy-theory-rises-again

"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy"

Sounds kinda like a communist utopia!

Sure, in the same way that Apple iTunes, Microsoft Office 365 and Netflix are communist.  Media has  mainly moved to a subscription model already.  Uber is cornering the taxi market in anticipation of driverless cars being available soon, which could make private car ownership obsolete for many (they’ve been running  a huge operational loss since the beginning, it’s all investor capital).

And don’t even get me started on property prices and the chances of young people ever saving up enough to own their home (unless their parents die or can stump up the cash).

This isn’t communism.  Communism is about shared ownership (or state ownership).  Sounds more like rentier capitalism, where those who own all the assets can sit back and watch the cash flow into their bank accounts off the backs of the plebs on the bottom doing all the work.

PS.  That shot reminds me of Richard D James, aka Aphex Twin

Sky News is Fox News for Australia,

If the 'far right' hate or fear something, it's probably something that is actually good and beneficial or at the very least has some merit.

Is this pandemic being expolited to further some agenda? Well given how Western nations have dealt with this (a big fat FAIL for most) then maybe stupid plebs need to ordered around to do the right thing. Living in a society comes with certain responsibilities to your fellow neighbours. Refusing to wear something as simple as a mask because 'muh freedom!' in the face of a deadly pandemic that is out of control around you, what can you say to those dicks? Frankly, F their dumb fee fees. Wear the mask or go to jail

I'm surprised the issue of climate change hasn't instigated this 'Great Reset' plan. That is having far more visible impacts on peoples lives and livelihoods then this pandemic but you still have climate change denying morons. The latest fire that Australia had had the smoke circle the planet several times over 3 months before it dissipated and reached 35km high. Crazy. What used to be once in a century fire storms or hurricanes is now almost a yearly event.

Over here in Oz in 2019 there 33 days that exceeded 39 °C, more than the number observed from 1960 to 2018 combined, which totaled 24 days. And people still think the climate is not changing. FFS. If  a New World Order can put degenerate conspirtard plebs in line and get a handle on real existential crises afflicting mankind, then good. Bring on 'The Great Reset'  I'll enjoy watching MAGA morons lose their shit while the adults in the room get on with the job

And what the hell, Agenda 21 too. oooohhhhh 

International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.

It seems fantastically unlikely.

The world is broken, capitalism has been rampant since the 80’s and all we see for it is an increase in the differences between poor and the increasingly venal rich, the destruction of species and their habitats .
 
IF this were to be like the Beveridge report in the UK after the last war, a kickstart to a fairer share for all (raising welfare and health care), IF this is a realisation that climate change is a thing and is liable to make the downturn Covid has engendered look like a stubbed toe and we can use the attention the virus situation has focused on the fragility of the normal to kick-start a greener future, then I am all for it.

However, as it is the very people forwarding this proposal that have to all intents help to create it so we must be vigilante.

My hope is that the rise in the popularist voting of the great unwashed ushering in increasingly authoritarian regimes with the resultant divisions in societies around the world, has given “the powers” the much needed rocket up their arses and they realise that those with nothing to lose are liable to burn it all down.

That our leaders can make the right decisions in times of crisis is illustrated by the example above, that they understand the gravity of the catastrophe that is looming is, I hope, the driver of this proposal.     

Well it's not uncommon for WEF to discuss nonsense that never comes to anything. Btw the website is just buzzwords without much that is specific, and stock footage without context. I'm pretty sure what they call "Great Reset" is just a name for what should be done to get the economy back on its feet after the pandemic, not a specific idea. Also about "communism": they cite Netanyahu and Milton Freedman, and all the people advocating for... whatever this is even supposed to be are right wing. This is just yet another techbro yuppie utopia and no one should care.

Also the IMF investing a trillion dollars in the idea? Lol no. I found where the claim seems to come from: https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2020/06/03/sp060320-remarks-to-world-economic-forum-the-great-reset

Again, buzzwords about how when Covid ends, it should be a "Great Reset" instead of "Great Reversal" so that now it's better and more fair. It says this:

We can avoid this if we concentrate on investing in people—in the social fabric of our societies, in access to opportunities, in education for all, and in the expansion of social programs so we take care of the most vulnerable people. Then we can have a world that is better for everyone.

Which is just what the IMF has been saying for a really long time, while forcing countries to defund said social programs. The trillion dollar quote is this:

So, now is the moment to step up—and use all the strength we have—to turn the page. In the case of the IMF we have a one trillion-dollar financial capacity and tremendous engagement on the policy side.

This just says "we're gonna be in this effort to do... uh... things and we are strong enough to do it!". It doesn't say "we're investing a trillion dollars into some dumb techbro utopia" because it is not what they are doing. It just seems like Americans and Brits just took buzzwords aimed at a north European audience at face value and got spooked for no reason.

At its core, the discussion about a "Great Reset" is just a fancy way to describe giving the people some stimulus so that they don't wreck shit during the coming recession, and such that the economy can bounce back. Which is why they mention the Beveridge report.

Quote from: JJA on November 17, 2020, 06:17:10 PM

Where is that quote from?  I don't see it mentioned anywhere earlier.

It's from the New York Times. 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/17/world/covid-19-coronavirus#the-baseless-great-reset-conspiracy-theory-rises-again

Thanks.  Where is the link between that article and the website? Similar names don't mean the same thing. Not saying it's NOT the same thing, just that I haven't seen anything to show it yet. 

This is the weirdest one I've read so far, and it's from 2016. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/  I guess this idea has been around for a long time, and COVID is giving it life.  I read something that says International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.

This explains my friend's mom's FB post complaining about the IMF and how they are doing something evil.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 16, 2020, 06:31:32 PM

This is the weirdest one I've read so far, and it's from 2016. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/  I guess this idea has been around for a long time, and COVID is giving it life.  I read something that says International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.

This explains my friend's mom's FB post complaining about the IMF and how they are doing something evil.

The IMF is doing many evil things but this is not one of them because they aren't doing anything about it lol

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 16, 2020, 06:31:32 PM

This is the weirdest one I've read so far, and it's from 2016. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/  I guess this idea has been around for a long time, and COVID is giving it life.  I read something that says International Monetary Fund is investing a trillion dollars in this idea, but I can't find confirmation of that.

This explains my friend's mom's FB post complaining about the IMF and how they are doing something evil.

Yeah, I'm seeing it in places I normally wouldn't expect. I guess the right wing are pushing it as a conspiracy, and the left wing is pushing it as stimulus. The World Economic Forum does not help ease anyone's mind with their bizarre shit!

But it's not any particular thing, either stimulus or a conspiracy because the "Great Reset" is not anything in particular. It's just "we should use the opportunity to make some changes in the economy". This means different things to different people. The vid WEF posted was a prediction, not an idea to implement, and imo a dumb prediction, like the many other dumb predictions they have platformed every now and then, but yuppies love that shit.

It doesn't matter if it's a particular thing, it's how it is perceived.  People are a little nuts right now, thanks to the corone, and Trump. The WEF have all that nutty shit on their website, world leaders attend their meeting in Davos. For people already feeling a great deal of distrust and anxiety about everything, this can be spun into something sinister easily.

Apparently building back better won't involve CFL light bulbs - maybe on a small scale at 6 times the cost, which is upsetting about.

Sorry, i didn't mean to belittle your thread - my neighbor told me about this the other day. He said "the great reset" is all over economics forums  or the world economic forum or something - didn't read this whole thread yet.

I'm not a fan of CFLs anyway. As a means of moving to something more energy efficient than incandescents, they certainly have merit, but with LED lighting being so much more efficient, longer lasting, and more affordable, it's hard to look back.