If the earth is constantly accelarating upwards...

...and when we jump, the earth catches up with us, how in gods fucking name, does a plane work? I take it its constantly having to fly upwards? cos lets face it, the earth is gonna catch up with that and flying would be impossible then. Also birds, helicopters.etc

Clear that one up for us all...

I take it its constantly having to fly upwards?

cos lets face it, the earth is gonna catch up with that and flying would be impossible then. Also birds, helicopters.etc

I take it its constantly having to fly upwards?

Well assuming you know physics, just tell me?

..As proof of this, take a row boat..

The usual corpse trundled out by FE'ers is that the planes are travelling up at the same speed. Hence, relatively speaking, there is no "falling". As proof of this, take a row boat, get your friend to row as fast as he can and then you throw a ball up into the air. It will come back to you even though the boat has moved on.

Why? Perhaps the ball is given dark energy

I think you miscombobulate me. The ball doesn't plop into the water behind the boat. It falls back into the boat. Why is this?

Quote from: E.Jack on September 16, 2008, 07:16:54 AM

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:08:59 AM

The usual corpse trundled out by FE'ers is that the planes are travelling up at the same speed. Hence, relatively speaking, there is no "falling". As proof of this, take a row boat, get your friend to row as fast as he can and then you throw a ball up into the air. It will come back to you even though the boat has moved on.

Obviously, because the Earth accelerates you towards the ball.

I think you miscombobulate me. The ball doesn't plop into the water behind the boat. It falls back into the boat. Why is this?

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:08:59 AM

The usual corpse trundled out by FE'ers is that the planes are travelling up at the same speed. Hence, relatively speaking, there is no "falling". As proof of this, take a row boat, get your friend to row as fast as he can and then you throw a ball up into the air. It will come back to you even though the boat has moved on.

Obviously, because the Earth accelerates you towards the ball. 

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:08:59 AM

Why? Perhaps the ball is given dark energy

No.

Are you in love?

It falls back into the boat. Why is this?

because the Earth accelerates

The earth doesn't accelerate sideways though does it?

It sounds like it could be a fundamental part of FE Theory.

What if two people set off in row boats in opposite directions on the same lake.

In each boat a person throws a ball into the air. Each ball lands inside its respective boat.

Now imagine a whole lake filled with joyous edwardian types all rowing in random directions and throwing balls up in the air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton.27s_first_law:_law_of_inertia

Are you agreeing with me Osama, that the earth doesn't accelerate sideways?

Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 07:38:54 AM

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:31:21 AM

Quote from: E.Jack on September 16, 2008, 07:16:54 AM

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:08:59 AM

The usual corpse trundled out by FE'ers is that the planes are travelling up at the same speed. Hence, relatively speaking, there is no "falling". As proof of this, take a row boat, get your friend to row as fast as he can and then you throw a ball up into the air. It will come back to you even though the boat has moved on.

Obviously, because the Earth accelerates you towards the ball.

I think you miscombobulate me. The ball doesn't plop into the water behind the boat. It falls back into the boat. Why is this?

erm, you realise it doesnt fall back into the boat, it falls  behind in the water.....yeah? lmao

Really? Try it.

Good, glad we've got that out of the way.

To surmise: It might be interesting to equate the forces behind this acceleration, it does not equate the means of production behind these forces.

Would you also agree that where celestial bodies are observably accelerating in different directions, then the uniform accelerator idea doesn't hold much water?

Quote from: goldstein on September 16, 2008, 07:51:30 AM

Are you in love?

I wish. It's like I've been desensitised to interests such as relationships by repeated failure to even get one going... but that's neither here nor there.

...waiting till after the second date to tell her that you believe the earth is flat may help

Newtons II describes the relation between the acceleration of a mass and the force exerted on it. It says nothing about how the mass came to have that force in the first place.

Well then your reasoning doesn't stack up.

You've agreed that although you could restack your coordinate system so that the earth is accelerating sideways, giving the appearance of a gravitational effect, it's not actually what's happening, as proven when a few more people row out and join in the fun.

But you cannot extend this simple premise to larger masses accelerating in much the same way. Hmm.

So they are accelerating?

What's causing this acceleration?

The usual corpse trundled out by FE'ers is that the planes are travelling up at the same speed.

As proof of this, take a row boat, get your friend to row as fast as he can and then you throw a ball up into the air. It will come back to you even though the boat has moved on. Why? Perhaps the ball is given dark energy.

But yes, upward acceleration is part of said nonsense, not speed.

Quote from: goldstein on September 17, 2008, 04:24:30 AM

But yes, upward acceleration is part of said nonsense, not speed.

Which is why your little exercise with the boat is completely irrelevant.

If you are in a boat and it is moving at a constant speed then the ball will come back down in the boat (ignoring wind).

If the boat is accelerating it won't, it will land behind the boat.

Quote from: Pretentious Twat on September 17, 2008, 04:44:23 AM

Quote from: goldstein on September 17, 2008, 04:24:30 AM

But yes, upward acceleration is part of said nonsense, not speed.

Which is why your little exercise with the boat is completely irrelevant.

If you are in a boat and it is moving at a constant speed then the ball will come back down in the boat (ignoring wind).

If the boat is accelerating it won't, it will land behind the boat.

Congratulations, you are smarter than Dr. Rowbotham (it was his experiment).

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=23177.0

That's not hard, Rowbotham was an idiot. Still doesn't change the fact that the earth is flat.