move up to see the sun still there?

hi guys, for all the flat earthers out there, i have few questions:

1. Can you see the sun and moon during a night if you climb a high altitude say 200 KMs?
2. Why polaris is not visible in southern hemisphere?
3. Does moon has its own light? or it reflects sunlight?

hi guys, for all the flat earthers out there, i have few questions:

1. Can you see the sun and moon during a night if you climb a high altitude say 200 KMs?
2. Why polaris is not visible in southern hemisphere?
3. Does moon has its own light? or it reflects sunlight?

I would like to answer your questions from my own perspective. This is also the most general trend. Although there may be extreme formations in some small groups that do not agree with these views.

1- I don't know if anyone has tried to go to an altitude of 200 km. However, we have seen a few times that there are examples where a high-altitude balloon observed the moon at a lower altitude, such as 100 kilometers, during the daytime. This shows that both objects can be seen at this altitude. According to my calculations, I do not think that an altitude of 200 km can be reached since it is not possible to go above 114 km.

2- Light does not travel in a straight direction. The sky is made up of water and the atmosphere consists of layers with different humidity levels. Just as you cannot see the pencil straight when you dip a pencil into a glass full of water, you cannot see the sun where it is. I have studies on this subject. A simplified version that you can understand is available here in summary form.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66236.msg1929890#msg1929890

3- The moon has its own light. Research shows moon cooles the objects after that the difference in air temperature between moony and shaded areas measured. Its about 2-4 degrees minus.

since it is not possible to go above 114 km.

many thanks for replying...do you know why its not possible to go beyond 114 KM?

Quote from: wise on June 07, 2024, 02:10:44 AM

since it is not possible to go above 114 km.

many thanks for replying...do you know why its not possible to go beyond 114 KM?

Certainly. At this height, sky dome begins. There is an electromagnetic wall in the closest layer of the dome. Alternatively, it could be just a very dense layer of gas, or it could be both. It can be a gas or another substance of different density. After reviewing many videos, studies and research, even I do not have a definitive opinion on this issue. However, I can say for sure that there is at least one of these two.

We know three states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. As an alternative to the electromagnetic wall and dense gas, there may be a fourth state of matter that we do not know about and may form the closest layer of the wall.

Quote from: lalit on June 07, 2024, 02:19:01 AM

Quote from: wise on June 07, 2024, 02:10:44 AM

since it is not possible to go above 114 km.

many thanks for replying...do you know why its not possible to go beyond 114 KM?

Certainly. At this height, sky dome begins. There is an electromagnetic wall in the closest layer of the dome. Alternatively, it could be just a very dense layer of gas, or it could be both. It can be a gas or another substance of different density. After reviewing many videos, studies and research, even I do not have a definitive opinion on this issue. However, I can say for sure that there is at least one of these two.

We know three states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. As an alternative to the electromagnetic wall and dense gas, there may be a fourth state of matter that we do not know about and may form the closest layer of the wall.

Help me out here.  How do you know so much about this dome that no one has ever been to and no one has examined in any way?  Have there been secret studies that only you have access to, and the rest of us are ignorant of?  Can you share this data?  What studies and research are you referring to?