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'Gravity' doesn't exist, it is a made up 'force', to explain their made up ball Earth flying through a made up 'endless space', and so forth.

What force pulls us towards the ground?

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Wrong.


Rude.

The center of gravitational influence anywhere in our flat world is not the center of the world.

Gravity pulls objects towards the center of mass. The force emanates in all directions equally. To imply that the center of gravity and the center of mass are not the same flies in the face of all gravitational observations.

[H]ow much the pressure affects you when you dive 100 meters deep in water, or how normal it is for the creatures at 3000 meters depth to not feel uncomfortable under this pressure. Doesn't this cause a question mark in your mind about pressure and hypothetical gravity?
What happens to the weight of an object as we remove more and more air pressure from its environment? Put a marble on a scale in a bell jar. Weigh it at normal pressure. Then, remove as much air as you can from the chamber. Does the weight of the object change?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« on: July 20, 2023, 02:21:12 PM »
Here's a simple experiment to prove Denspressure:

Put a marble on a small kitchen scale. Place both into a bell jar. Weigh the marble. Then, pump some of the air out of the bell jar. With less air inside the bell jar for the marble to displace, the buoyant forces acting on the marble should decrease, decreasing its weight proportional to the amount of air that was pumped out of the bell jar.

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Another theory is that the earth is pulled down, similar to the spherical model, with the usual gravitational effects. This is the equivalent of Gravity in the flat earth model. There is more land below, and downward gravitational acceleration occurs, whether the earth be sphere or flat.

Under this scenario, the center of gravity on a flat earth would be under the north pole. The force of gravity would pull everything towards the Arctic regions.


Another theory concerns the weights and densities of bodies, and heavier or denser bodies move down within the other. For example, while the gas, which is lighter than air, moves up, other objects move down. This is also reasonable.

I've asked this question elsewhere ITT, but I'll ask it here as well. How can anybody measure a buoyant force without gravity? The formula to calculate a buoyant force includes the force of gravity. What formula would you use?


One new emerging theory is the gravitational effect from the lower world. According to this, there is a world under the world that is completely opposite to the world, and what holds these two worlds together is the opposite of each other and the attraction effect towards each other. If you think that the substances in the upper world are loaded with +, the substances in the lower world are loaded with - and this makes it impossible to leave both worlds and causes the gravity affect.


This is an interesting theory, but like the simulation theory, it cannot be disproven nor tested, therefore neither of these theories hold very much scientific weight.

I have not encountered a flat earth explanation for the downward force we call gravity that is compatible with simple observations we can make about the world around us.

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I absolutely love how flat Earthers ITT ignored OP's very simple experiment to disprove how Flat Earthers describe the sun. Typical. Flat Earthers rarely engage honestly with evidence that disproves their preconceived notions.

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I believe that's uhhhh three.

The third was mine. Buoyant layers of air pressure.

You can ask anything.


How do you measure a buoyant force without gravity? I measure buoyancy with the formula F=D x V x g where:

F = buoyant force
D = Density of the fluid
V = Volume of displaced fluid
G = the force of gravity

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Flat Earth General / Re: How could this be a HOAX?
« on: February 14, 2017, 07:32:23 AM »
You two are hysterical.

Seek help.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Project Blue Beam
« on: February 11, 2017, 11:41:04 PM »
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.

I'll bet you $100 that 2017 will be one of the top 10 warmest years on record.

I'll bet you $500 that the 2010-2019 decade will be the hottest decade on record.

If you refuse these bets, then you secretly believe climate change to be real. Why would you turn down such easy money?

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Flat Earth General / Re: DET: Come at me
« on: February 10, 2017, 03:40:36 PM »
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This is demonstrably false. Dozens of experiments have measured gravity at varying levels. None have observed any "jumps" in gravitational energy.

If you can point to 1 study showing these supposed "jumps" in gravity then you may be on to something.
I have seen no experiment that tries to measure continuity, which is the key issue. There is no debate on the concept of gravity decreasing with altitude, but it is assumed to be continuous: this is not tested for.
This is an example of an experiment that count be performed, not one that has been.

Here's the thing though, one cannot possibly measure for continuity. How would it be recorded?

The only way anybody can make any sort of accurate measurement of anything in the world is to measure it at discrete intervals and record the findings.

As it stands, NOT ONE SINGLE TEST regarding the effects of gravity has found ANY evidence of the "jumps" you speak of. In fact, every single time gravity is measured at different altitudes, one reliably finds a GRADUAL DECREASE in gravitational energy as one moves further away from the source.

AGAIN, if you can point out ONE SINGLE TEST that finds irregular "jumps" in gravitational energy, you would have a leg to stand on.

Currently, you do not.

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Flat Earth General / Re: UA vs Denpressure
« on: February 10, 2017, 03:19:50 PM »
By now you should all know that Sceptimatic does not rely upon dictionaries to tell him the definitions of words.

He simply invents definitions himself when the defined meanings do not fit into his worldview.

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Flat Earth General / Re: DET: Come at me
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:32:45 PM »
We have discussed this before, but my greatest issue with your model is your reliance upon aether behaving in certain ways, when nobody has ever observed what you are describing.

I'd like to take a look at your "evidence" section in particular

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Gravity will decrease with altitude: under DET, this is due to fewer whirlpools pushing down. It will be possible to verify that the alteration will occur discontinuously: instead of a smooth progression, we will observe jumps at the altitude of each whirlpool.

This is demonstrably false. Dozens of experiments have measured gravity at varying levels. None have observed any "jumps" in gravitational energy.

If you can point to 1 study showing these supposed "jumps" in gravity then you may be on to something.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:22:51 PM »
Enlighten me, what is the purpose of the pineal gland?

The pineal gland is the window to the soul. Many refer to it as the third eye.

Personally, I believe it is the pineal gland that connects us with all other living things.

How does this relate to staring at the sun?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Shipping Crate Experiment
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:21:22 PM »
Any person who lives in a mountainous region can tell you that as the sun rises, the tops of the mountains alight before anything else.

Your example of a shipping crate is a poor one, as it uses a very small scale.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: January 22, 2017, 01:14:08 PM »
Enlighten me, what is the purpose of the pineal gland?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« on: January 21, 2017, 10:08:50 AM »
I never claimed any supreme court decision. You are just under another delusion. No giant bones??? Theyre all around, mislabeled as dinosaur bones!

Why do so many of these "giant bones" look inhuman? Most "giant bones" that are found look like giant lizards. This is where the global dragon myth originated.

In addition to this, all of your NYT articles refer to skeletons that are around 9' in height. This is an attainable height for humans. In the past, there may have been communities of abnormally tall humans, just like tribes of pygmies found in South America who are abnormally short.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: January 21, 2017, 10:07:44 AM »
What benifits do you personally experience when you look at the sun?

Do you simply feel better, as in your mood changes?

Can you refrain from eating while looking at the sun, as one of your articles suggests?

Is it important to be barefoot, as one of your articles suggests?

You only say "it is good for you," without ever going into detail about what benifits one is supposed to receive.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« on: January 16, 2017, 02:49:23 PM »
If the container is crushed the volume decreases but the mass remains the same. If the volume decreases the density increases but the displacement decreases.
In the end we get the initial statement: the displacement of two objects with the same mass is inversely proportional to their density.

Hit the nail on the head.

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Any questions?

I have one.

If you picture an empty tube miles high and you at the bottom feeding sponge balls into that tube to push one up into the other until the first very sponge ball sits at the very top, you would realise that as you fed these balls up one at a time you created a resistance of push into one ball until your push is under resistance of two then three and so on and so on, meaning that each ball you feed in takes more energy and becomes more compressed against your push.
The very top ball would be a perfect expanded ball under the extreme minor push from the one below but no stress at all at the top. It becomes frozen because it cannot create any friction against anything above it because nothing exists above it.

Now imagine the miles long tube is sideways instead of vertical. It becomes much easier to push the sponge balls in the tube now. As you push more and more sponge balls into the tube, you would still feel resistance increase as you continue to slide the sponge balls along, but this force would not be as great as it would be in the vertical example.

My question is, why is it easier to move sideways than upwards?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: The big small FE chess championship!!!
« on: January 16, 2017, 02:12:44 PM »
Bxd6

Your B is not a N!  :)

I also plaid blindfold so far, but I guess we both should bother to use a board now.

On my second move I took my bishop to C4. On my last move, I took your Queen's pawn with my white bishop on C4.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: coal
« on: January 15, 2017, 10:27:17 PM »
You speak English exceedingly well for somebody who learned it as a second language. What has been your greatest asset in learning the language?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: January 15, 2017, 10:21:13 PM »
Even if the earth were flat, staring at the sun would still be bad for your health. At sunrise and sunset, the effects won't be as bad, but over time it can still damage your vision.

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The Lounge / Arealhumanbeing is going to hell
« on: January 15, 2017, 10:13:19 PM »
"Anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell." Matthew 5:22

Oh also go stroke your cock elswhere, fool.

That makes you both a liar and a fool.

Because I am not a liar, fool. Are you?

Lol keep guessing fool!

You are a liar and you are a fool.

Wow. You fool.

Why don't you moderate some of the obscene things this fool is saying?

Lol This fool really bring alot to the coversations!

This isn't a game, fool.

Prove me wrong fool.

Sounds like I'll see you there, kid.

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Flat Earth General / Re: How deep does this go?
« on: January 15, 2017, 09:36:54 AM »
im starting to wonder is there anyone thats NOT in on the conspiracy.
where the hell does all the money come from to pay off so many people.

Like I said, it clearly can't be based upon money.

The only thing that makes sense is a malevolent entity screwing with people for some reason.

Or maybe the earth is round and you're just paranoid.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Free thinking or just plain delusional?
« on: January 15, 2017, 09:35:04 AM »
reading this thread made me wonder something about how fe'ers think. i hope to get a legitimate response from a fe'er.



so lets say for example:

one day i decided that i am actually a leprechaun.
i dont exactly know what a leprechaun is but i must be one. because i saw it in a childrens book.
when i look in the mirror, i see a human. so the mirror must be wrong. for me.
everyone tells me im a human. they are lying
every book of anatomy tells me im human. they are all wrong
i eat human food. the supermarkets have tricked me.
there has never been a leprechaun seen in the whole history of mankind. everyone who saw one will never say it.
but i still believe(or know) im a leprechaun.

should i
1,  spend my days trying to prove tham im a leprechaun.
2,  since every thing around me shows im not leprechaun perhaps i should concede that the problem may not be in the whole world around me, but perhaps i am the problem, or the way i think or perceive things is.
I'd say you have enough evidence to say that you're just like the people you see, so number 2 is your best choice for your own sanity.

Now take away the mirror and your sight and try to prove it, because that's what free thinkers have to deal with when TOLD about the Earth we live on, because everything else is CGI or special effects or cloaked in secrecy as to render us blind to it anyway.

OK so a blind person believes themselves to be a leprechaun. Every single person they meet tries to convince them of the truth, that they are really human. If the blind person refuses to acknowledge other people surrounding them and relies only upon that inner feeling of being a leprechaun, then he is delusional.

If somebody believes in a giant, naturally occuring graphite arc lamp that nobody can see or observe, are they delusional?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« on: January 15, 2017, 09:23:37 AM »
Take a pound of lead and a pound of steel  They weigh exactly the same amount.  Which will displace more water and why?
They will both displace the same amount of water because they displace the same amount of atmosphere regardless of their differing area.

Take a 10 cm cube of lead and a 10 cm cube of steel.  Which will displace more water and why?
The 10 cm cube of lead will displace more water due to it being able to displace more atmospheric pressure by density compared to the more porous cube of steel of the exact same size.
This is due to denpressure as I've explained time and time again.
In your mind, is there any difference between an object displacing water and displacing the atmosphere?
None whatsoever.

Displacement has to do with volume, not density. How dense are you?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: The big small FE chess championship!!!
« on: January 14, 2017, 08:05:56 PM »
Bxd6

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« on: January 14, 2017, 12:53:09 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/03/large-dinosaur-footprint-titanosaur-gobi-desert

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/sep/07/dinosaur-footprints-from-cretaceous-period-uncovered-on-broomes-cable-beach

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/01/sauropod-footprint-find-makes-skye-scotlands-largest-dinosaur-site

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/ovrdino.htm

Regardless of this type of evidence, trackways, that are found all over the world and are impossible to fake, some people due to their psychological makeup will never be convinced.
The shadow of a man differs quite greatly from his appearance. Likewise footsteps. While we can draw generalizations to attempt to guess at what this footprint might have meant, in the end we must admit ignorance. They quite likely could have been giant footprints.

Aren't giant footprints supposed to look like an oversized human foot?

The examples in those links look nothing like a giant's foot.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« on: January 12, 2017, 11:15:00 PM »
...the more dense that object is, the more atmosphere it displaces in it's own right, which requires more energy to move the object or change it's motion.
No, volume causes displacement, not mass.

When you measure water displacement, you are measuring volume not mass.
No you're not. It atmospheric pressure upon mass.
Denpressure speaks for itself.

So when a recipe calls for 1 cup of crisco, I fill a measuring cup to the brim with water and place it in a pan. I then put in enough crisco so that 1 cup of water has been displaced out of the measuring cup.

Did I just measure volume or mass?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« on: January 12, 2017, 11:08:30 PM »
...the more dense that object is, the more atmosphere it displaces in it's own right, which requires more energy to move the object or change it's motion.
No, volume causes displacement, not mass.

When you measure water displacement, you are measuring volume not mass.

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