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About which do you know?

Neither/ My knowledge is from video games only
3 (50%)
Hapkido
1 (16.7%)
Zui Ba Xian Quan
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Both
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BOGWarrior89

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« on: January 29, 2007, 11:19:02 PM »
Anyone here have any martial arts experience?  Anyone here interested in martial arts?  The first is the one I'm taking, and the last is the one I'm interested in either learning or learning more about it.

Hapkido - The way of coordinated power
Hapkido, for those of you who don't know, is known as a "soft art", which means that it is more focused upon using joint locks and throws, along with finishers.  "Hard art"s are more focused upon overcoming one's opponent with strength.

Hapkido focuses on the wrist, shoulder, and elbow for almost all of the hold/throw techniques.  It uses punches and kicks from it's sister art, Taekwondo, but only to stun the attacker; joint locks and choke holds are primarily used to immobilize the attacker.

Quote from: "Hapkido website"
As a Martial Art, Hapkido teaches self-confidence, self-discipline, and self-defense. This art seeks not to overcome an attacker with strength, but to use techniques which turn an attacker's own force against himself.
Hapkido is a complete art that uses joint-locking techniques like Aikido, throws and finishes like Jiu-jutsu or Judo, and kicks and punches like Taekwondo or Karate. Hapkido emphasizes practical techniques and stresses the importance of learning how to fall safely.

Quote from: "Hapkido website"
7. Do you accept children in your classes?

Unfortunately, we cannot accept students younger than 16 years of age. For safety reasons, Hapkido requires a certain amount of physical control and mature exercise of judgement that cannot be relied upon in younger children.

8. Does Hapkido do sparring or tournaments?

Hapkido does not do any sparring or tournaments. Hapkido is a martial art practiced primarily for self-defense, not a competitive sport like Taekwondo or Judo. Most of the techniques learned in Hapkido are designed to immobilize or seriously injure an attacker.

9. What belt or rank system do you use?

Hapkido uses the Korean belt system, similar to that used by many Taekwondo schools. The belt ranking, in order of lowest to highest ranks is as follows:

White Belt
Orange Belt
Green Belt
Blue Belt
Brown Belt (at this level and higher, black pants are worn)
Red Belt
Recommended Black Belt (half red, half black)
1st Degree Black Belt
2nd Degree Black Belt (2 yellow stripes on the ends of the belt)
3rd Degree Black Belt (3 yellow stripes on the ends of the belt)
4th Degree Black Belt (4 yellow stripes on the ends of the belt)
5th Degree Black Belt (5 yellow stripes on the ends of the belt)


Now, what about Zui Ba Xian Quan?

Zui Ba Xian Quan means "Eight Immortals Drunken Fist", and most of my knowledge of the art comes from Brad Wong, who was in both Dead or Alive 3 and Dead or Alive 4.  I was wondering if anyone here has either practiced it, seen it, or knows of anyone that teaches it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 04:50:46 AM »
Drunken fist! Best martial art ever.

I've only heard of it from Dead or Alive and Mortal Kombat, but it's completely awesome.

Hapikido, never heard of it but it sounds quite hax.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 08:52:18 AM »
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Drunken fist! Best martial art ever.

I've only heard of it from Dead or Alive and Mortal Kombat, but it's completely awesome.

Hapikido, never heard of it but it sounds quite hax.

I'd definitely agree to the top; although I'll never be drunk, my opponents will never know that, and therefore, won't expect me to be able to fight while acting inebriated.  It's an awesome fighting style, and it always awed me with how they can act drunk and keep their balance at the same time.

Drunken Fist performed by Brad Wong would totally destroy that martial art being passed off as Drunken Fist by Bo Rai Cho in Mortal Kombat.

Also, Hapkido is one of Scorpion's martial arts, but I wouldn't judge Hapkido by that too much.  Dead or Alive, however, is pretty accurate, with only a few impossible moves per person (Brad Wong's triple spinning kick is impossible, or so I'm told).
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 09:00:07 AM »
The day one of these fighting styles becomes relevant to one of the
anime series I watch, I'll educate myself about them.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 09:01:39 AM »
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The day one of these fighting styles becomes relevant to one of the
anime series I watch, I'll educate myself about them.

What do you watch?
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 10:06:03 AM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Drunken fist! Best martial art ever.

I've only heard of it from Dead or Alive and Mortal Kombat, but it's completely awesome.

Hapikido, never heard of it but it sounds quite hax.


Watch Jackie Chan's movie Legend of Drunken Master.  It is win.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 11:06:01 AM »
Well, i used to practice Zui Quan (short for Zui Ba Xian Quan) a while back. Of course it was completely on an amateur level, no classes taken. I only performed the moves i've seen in DOA3 And the Drunken Master movies. It was pretty fun, and i was capable of bending backwards pretty far doing the "drinking move" without falling on my back. But i've grown lazy lately and my body has become stiff again, so i rarely practice.

I was also into Jeet Kune Do at that time, and i have a nunchaku i'd say i'm pretty skilled with.

I only did these things for fun, and i'm sure that if i tried to use either Zui Quan or Jeet Kune Do in a real fight, i'd get my ass kicked.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 11:11:58 AM »
Quote from: "Mugenjou"
Well, i used to practice Zui Quan (short for Zui Ba Xian Quan) a while back. Of course it was completely on an amateur level, no classes taken. I only performed the moves i've seen in DOA3 And the Drunken Master movies. It was pretty fun, and i was capable of bending backwards pretty far doing the "drinking move" without falling on my back.

Yeah, I've been "practicing" moves from DOA3 ... although, the game can't tell me that my stance is wrong, so I'd really like to do it for real.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 11:25:45 AM »
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "Mugenjou"
Well, i used to practice Zui Quan (short for Zui Ba Xian Quan) a while back. Of course it was completely on an amateur level, no classes taken. I only performed the moves i've seen in DOA3 And the Drunken Master movies. It was pretty fun, and i was capable of bending backwards pretty far doing the "drinking move" without falling on my back.

Yeah, I've been "practicing" moves from DOA3 ... although, the game can't tell me that my stance is wrong, so I'd really like to do it for real.


Yeah, me too.
I'm sure it would be fun to get back into it. But overcoming my laziness might prove to be difficult.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 09:13:55 PM »
Hapkido is quite fun, I did some MMA for a while, and one of my trainers was a 3rd degree black, he tought me a good amount, it is very powerful, but is quite difficult to use, as many of the joint lock need to be in a small spot.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 11:26:41 AM »
Well, I don't know much about Zui Ba Xian Quan, but I have seen it and have watched videos of people competing with it against people using different martial arts. It's fairly similar to what you see in DoA, it requires a lot of movement and I think places a lot of emphasis on distracting your opponent or making it impossible to read your moves. But personally, I think it would be rather ineffective in any sort of combat situation unless you were extremely skilled at it and even then you would have to pick and choose your moments as to when it would be appropriate to use as with any martial art. I think it uses too much energy and I don't know how smoothly it can be performed.

I prefer more circular or direct martial arts. Right now I am practicing Wu Tai Chi which has quite circular movements and is a defensive martial art like aikido in a way. I'm also practicing Wing Chun, which is what Bruce Lee practiced and based his martial art, Jeet Kun Do, on (as I'm told). It's quite straight forward, consisting of a few blocks and strikes but with many combinations. It's a center line martial art and focuses on simultaneous defense and attack. I've also practiced QiGong, which is a sort of meditation exercise which is used to strengthen one's inner strength or chi and tends to be taught along with Tai chi.

There you go, some more interesting martial arts :D

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2007, 11:53:51 AM »
Quote from: "Ticky"
I've also practiced QiGong, which is a sort of meditation exercise which is used to strengthen one's inner strength or chi and tends to be taught along with Tai chi.


So you know how to channel/control your chi? I wanna learning how to do that.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2007, 12:30:01 PM »
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Quote from: "Ticky"
I've also practiced QiGong, which is a sort of meditation exercise which is used to strengthen one's inner strength or chi and tends to be taught along with Tai chi.


So you know how to channel/control your chi? I wanna learning how to do that.


I'm not great with it yet, I haven't been practicing as much as I should, so I'm still in the awareness phase of it. But I am already quite amazed at what I can feel and what my body is capable of.

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2007, 01:20:09 PM »
Quote from: "Ticky"
Well, I don't know much about Zui Ba Xian Quan, but I have seen it and have watched videos of people competing with it against people using different martial arts. It's fairly similar to what you see in DoA, it requires a lot of movement and I think places a lot of emphasis on distracting your opponent or making it impossible to read your moves. But personally, I think it would be rather ineffective in any sort of combat situation unless you were extremely skilled at it and even then you would have to pick and choose your moments as to when it would be appropriate to use as with any martial art. I think it uses too much energy and I don't know how smoothly it can be performed.


Some Zui Ba Xian Quan practitioners I met over the internet told me that a few of the moves in Dead or Alive were impossible (the triple spin kick, for instance), but it was fairly accurate (other than the fact that a character gets right up after his/her arm/leg is broken).

Quote from: "Ticky"
I prefer more circular or direct martial arts. Right now I am practicing Wu Tai Chi which has quite circular movements and is a defensive martial art like aikido in a way. I'm also practicing Wing Chun, which is what Bruce Lee practiced and based his martial art, Jeet Kun Do, on (as I'm told). It's quite straight forward, consisting of a few blocks and strikes but with many combinations. It's a center line martial art and focuses on simultaneous defense and attack. I've also practiced QiGong, which is a sort of meditation exercise which is used to strengthen one's inner strength or chi and tends to be taught along with Tai chi.

There you go, some more interesting martial arts :D

--Ticky


Jeet Kune Do looked interesting for it's speed, but there isn't anywhere around here where I could go to learn it; I'm interested in martial arts in general, but I chose Hapkido because it was a defensive art, so my parents don't have to worry about me going around and kicking some random dude's ass.

Hapkido is circular, defensive, and is a sister art to Aikido.  Hell, just look at the spelling: Hapkido and Aikido.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2007, 01:38:39 PM »
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Quote from: "Ticky"
Well, I don't know much about Zui Ba Xian Quan, but I have seen it and have watched videos of people competing with it against people using different martial arts. It's fairly similar to what you see in DoA, it requires a lot of movement and I think places a lot of emphasis on distracting your opponent or making it impossible to read your moves. But personally, I think it would be rather ineffective in any sort of combat situation unless you were extremely skilled at it and even then you would have to pick and choose your moments as to when it would be appropriate to use as with any martial art. I think it uses too much energy and I don't know how smoothly it can be performed.


Some Zui Ba Xian Quan practitioners I met over the internet told me that a few of the moves in Dead or Alive were impossible (the triple spin kick, for instance), but it was fairly accurate (other than the fact that a character gets right up after his/her arm/leg is broken).

Quote from: "Ticky"
I prefer more circular or direct martial arts. Right now I am practicing Wu Tai Chi which has quite circular movements and is a defensive martial art like aikido in a way. I'm also practicing Wing Chun, which is what Bruce Lee practiced and based his martial art, Jeet Kun Do, on (as I'm told). It's quite straight forward, consisting of a few blocks and strikes but with many combinations. It's a center line martial art and focuses on simultaneous defense and attack. I've also practiced QiGong, which is a sort of meditation exercise which is used to strengthen one's inner strength or chi and tends to be taught along with Tai chi.

There you go, some more interesting martial arts :D

--Ticky


Jeet Kune Do looked interesting for it's speed, but there isn't anywhere around here where I could go to learn it; I'm interested in martial arts in general, but I chose Hapkido because it was a defensive art, so my parents don't have to worry about me going around and kicking some random dude's ass.

Hapkido is circular, defensive, and is a sister art to Aikido.  Hell, just look at the spelling: Hapkido and Aikido.


Yeah, I know, I was actually going to join a hapkido class once, but that didn't pan out. I am currently hoping to join an aikido class as it is quite cheap and very traditional at the place I'm looking at. I just need to find the time.

--Ticky
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2007, 02:26:54 PM »
I just had to give Kyokushin a plug....

GO KYOKUSHIN!!!

thank you


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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2007, 03:11:50 PM »
I quite recently started Judo, it's been quite enjoyable (but not quite as awesome as drunken fist )
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2007, 09:47:38 PM »
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I quite recently started Judo, it's been quite enjoyable (but not quite as awesome as drunken fist )


Yeah, Hapkido uses some Judo throws, and while we're all standing outside waiting for the time for class, we watch the Judo practitioners; it's pretty interesting.  I recently learned the shoulder pop, which is eventually going to be a Judo throw.
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