Why cant RE exist?

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Hamaz

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« on: September 11, 2006, 03:38:18 PM »
i am amazed that i see nothing that explains why a RE  doesnt exist, all i see people writing about is how a FE Theory would work.

i want to know what is so hard to believe about the RE theory?

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CrimsonKing

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 03:39:49 PM »
It isnt so much that we have something that shows why it can't exist, although I'm sure Dogplatter has some idea.  But since this site was around it has been RErs sayin "OH BUT WHAT ABOUT _______"

and we answer
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Hamaz

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 03:41:18 PM »
well just explain why someone would switch from being a RE'er to a FE'er when there are no holes in the RE theory?

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2006, 03:42:55 PM »
good point Hamaz.....Id like to know too about something that didn't make sense to them for them to convert to FE.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2006, 03:45:10 PM »
There are plenty of things the the RE has no answer for, as does the FE.


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Hamaz

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 03:46:32 PM »
such as......

please respond i am genuinly interested

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DrPoodle

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2006, 03:46:55 PM »
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
There are plenty of things the the RE has no answer for, as does the FE.

Name me something that RE can't answer!
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The Doctor

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2006, 03:50:43 PM »
Ermmm... (Under pressure)
Seals!
Yeah - Seals!

Seals are unexplainably good with balls. There are no balls in thier natural habitat. How, when a ball is thrown to a seal, does it know that it can balance it on its nose?
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CrimsonKing

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2006, 03:53:04 PM »
tell me how gravity works, not what it does, but how it works.


Sorry for stealing your thunder Engineer,
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The Doctor

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2006, 03:54:15 PM »
No, gravity can sod off. Answer my Seal question!
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DrPoodle

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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2006, 03:54:36 PM »
Ahh, now this really IS a government conspiracy!

You see, during World War 2, all seals were genetically modified to distract Germans with amazing ball tricks and jumping through hoops etc, whilst the Allies would bomb them all.

Unfortunately (for the seals) this modification lasted through the generations and they were condemned to a life of balancing balls for the entertainment of the public.

*sigh*
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DrPoodle

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2006, 03:55:44 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
tell me how gravity works, not what it does, but how it works.


Sorry for stealing your thunder Engineer,


Read this article, written by very intelligent people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2006, 04:00:05 PM »
Nobody can give me an intelligent answer to my seal question! Thats so cool!
Nice theory DrPoodle!
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CrimsonKing

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2006, 04:00:18 PM »
Quote from: "howstuffworks"
The question of why atoms attract one another is still not understood.


Quote from: Wikipedia"
While a great deal is now known about the properties of gravity, the ultimate cause of gravitation remains an open question and gravity remains an important topic of scientific research.


Nope... 'fraid not, good try though
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Hamaz

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 04:02:20 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
Quote from: "howstuffworks"
The question of why atoms attract one another is still not understood.


Quote from: Wikipedia"
While a great deal is now known about the properties of gravity, the ultimate cause of gravitation remains an open question and gravity remains an important topic of scientific research.


Nope... 'fraid not, good try though


true that is ONE valid point, so FE answer to this is that we are all moving upwards?

any more things that RE doent answer?

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DrPoodle

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 04:02:53 PM »
Quote from: "The Doctor"
Nobody can give me an intelligent answer to my seal question! Thats so cool!
Nice theory DrPoodle!

Theory?

Find me one article about the physics behind Universal Acceleration (or whatever you guys substitute for gravity).
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The Doctor

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2006, 04:04:35 PM »
Its better than the 'Flat Earth' theory of the Earth constantly accelerating upwards. How do we maintain our place in the solar system then? Do all the other planets and the sun follow us?
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The Doctor

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2006, 04:06:16 PM »
Quote from: "DrPoodle"
Quote from: "The Doctor"
Nobody can give me an intelligent answer to my seal question! Thats so cool!
Nice theory DrPoodle!

Theory?

Find me one article about the physics behind Universal Acceleration (or whatever you guys substitute for gravity).


No you misunderstand me - I was commenting on your theory about the seals.
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DrPoodle

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2006, 04:06:55 PM »
Quote from: "The Doctor"
Its better than the 'Flat Earth' theory of the Earth constantly accelerating upwards. How do we maintain our place in the solar system then? Do all the other planets and the sun follow us?


The FE acceleration is flawed anyway, seeing as a constantly accelerating body will eventually hit light-speed, something which is impossible.
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DrPoodle

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2006, 04:07:55 PM »
Quote from: "The Doctor"
Quote from: "DrPoodle"
Quote from: "The Doctor"
Nobody can give me an intelligent answer to my seal question! Thats so cool!
Nice theory DrPoodle!

Theory?

Find me one article about the physics behind Universal Acceleration (or whatever you guys substitute for gravity).


No you misunderstand me - I was commenting on your theory about the seals.

I know, the second part of my post was directed to CrimsonKing...I should have made that clearer...my bad :P
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CrimsonKing

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2006, 04:09:34 PM »
In that case find me physics done by FEbelieving scientists
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The Doctor

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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2006, 04:11:25 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
In that case find me physics done by FEbelieving scientists


No, thats your job. We find evidence supporting Round Earth.
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2006, 04:11:34 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
In that case find me physics done by FEbelieving scientists



FE scientists are too busy flicking their shit against the wall and wanking.....

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DrPoodle

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2006, 04:12:17 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
In that case find me physics done by FEbelieving scientists

Why should I? Surely that's your job. I found evidence by RE Scientists supporting gravity, so you find FE scientists who support UA!
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irishpeter

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2006, 04:19:36 PM »
In all fairness, it  has been proved that atoms attract each other, so the RE version of gravity does work. We don't understand exactly how it works, so what? We don't understand exactly why oppositely charged particles attract each other either, or why the strong nuclear force completely disappears beyond a certain limit. It isn't evidence the earth is flat!

And Crimsonking- the way it has been since this forum was set up is that REers say "But what about...", and the FEers explain that which fits in with their theories, and conveniently ignore that which doesn't

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The Doctor

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2006, 04:22:05 PM »
Quote from: "irishpeter"
The FEers explain that which fits in with their theories, and conveniently ignore that which doesn't


Thats kinda like whats in my signature. (below)
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DrPoodle

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2006, 04:23:26 PM »
Quote from: "irishpeter"
In all fairness, it  has been proved that atoms attract each other, so the RE version of gravity does work. We don't understand exactly how it works, so what? We don't understand exactly why oppositely charged particles attract each other either, or why the strong nuclear force completely disappears beyond a certain limit. It isn't evidence the earth is flat!

And Crimsonking- the way it has been since this forum was set up is that REers say "But what about...", and the FEers explain that which fits in with their theories, and conveniently ignore that which doesn't


Its how all conspiracy theories go. They start off pretty cool, making people say "wow, I never thought of that before, I suppose it could happen" etc. Then of course someone comes up with a scientific way of proving a part of the theory wrong, and the conspiracy theorists have to make stuff up to keep it all alive.

I mean, genetically engineered penguins from a 1960's lab....Ice Wall Guardians...a flat sun and moon...and the Earth accelerating without breaking the speed of light??? Talk about far fetched...that is just pure idiocy!
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Hamaz

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2006, 04:29:38 PM »
Quote from: "DrPoodle"
Quote from: "irishpeter"
In all fairness, it  has been proved that atoms attract each other, so the RE version of gravity does work. We don't understand exactly how it works, so what? We don't understand exactly why oppositely charged particles attract each other either, or why the strong nuclear force completely disappears beyond a certain limit. It isn't evidence the earth is flat!

And Crimsonking- the way it has been since this forum was set up is that REers say "But what about...", and the FEers explain that which fits in with their theories, and conveniently ignore that which doesn't


Its how all conspiracy theories go. They start off pretty cool, making people say "wow, I never thought of that before, I suppose it could happen" etc. Then of course someone comes up with a scientific way of proving a part of the theory wrong, and the conspiracy theorists have to make stuff up to keep it all alive.

I mean, genetically engineered penguins from a 1960's lab....Ice Wall Guardians...a flat sun and moon...and the Earth accelerating without breaking the speed of light??? Talk about far fetched...that is just pure idiocy!


can you give me a link to the penguin thread, ive got to read that :)

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irishpeter

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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2006, 04:30:37 PM »
Well, apparently we'd still feel like the earth was accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 even if it was accelerating slower, because of the way Newtonian physics warps close to the speed of light.

Having said this, although it's theoretically possible, it's highly improbable that this is the case, as other weird things happen as we approach the speed of light

I argues the lighspeed point for a long time, and still can't get my head around it, but dysfunction provided a link to a physics forum which says it is possible.