Nuclear Weapons Don't Exist

Because it was about sending a message?

Supposedly the power plants use the exact same process to heat the water that the bombs use to make explosions.

Not one power plant has ever exploded, leveling miles and miles of land. The worst "meltdown" was just radiation.

Furthermore the type of bomb does not matter, as neither exists.

Nuclear energy is not evidence for nuclear weapons. My stove can heat water, that doesn't mean it can destroy cities. Likewise, simply because a power plant is using nuclear fission to turn water into steam does not mean that same process can obliterate cities.

The real reason that nuclear war has not broken out is that the devices simply do not exist.

Bombs would have use higher concentration of uranium 235.  Weapons grade as one would say.  Where power plants use less amounts of fissile uranium 235.  In a bomb. either uranium or plutonium, the material is stored in a non critical form and then when you want the bomb to go off, the material is forced into a critical state.  Power plants will never have a critical mass.  Power plants control the reaction where as in bombs the reaction goes uncontrolled on purpose.
There processes are quite different.       

Just pointing it out because people, including you, don't actually know much about this topic yet like to argue against it. 

Ok, what about the people who saw the mushroom cloud? instead of a lot of not so large explosions?

Mushroom clouds are not exclusive to nuclear bombs. The idea of such is propaganda.

Do you have any real evidence? You can type these things all you want, that does not make them true. There is no reason to believe these weapons exist.

Was that statement intended to be as ironic as possible?

There is plenty of evidence out there. I could post some but you would just deny it. 
It's works both ways though. Just because you say they don't exist doesn't mean that they don't. 

Here is what I do. (It's yellow cake) http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l448/sokarul/IMG_0273.jpg
What do you do at work? Oh that's right, you were in the military.

Quote from: sokarul on November 24, 2012, 05:01:31 PM

There is plenty of evidence out there. I could post some but you would just deny it. 
It's works both ways though. Just because you say they don't exist doesn't mean that they don't. 

Right. Is this where you get mad, tell me "its all over the place" and then expect me to Google it? You're not posting any because it doesn't exist. Simple.

Ah, you're the one that does all the piss tests. There should be lots of easy work for you in Colorado or some other backwards drug-laden state.

Right. Is this where you get mad, tell me "its all over the place" and then expect me to Google it? You're not posting any because it doesn't exist. Simple.

That is not what I do.

I have. It appears to be you who has not.

Ah, I see. So you don't do the brains part of the examination? I'm sure you enjoy gathering the samples then. Someone has to do it, I suppose.

Quote from: robertotrevor on November 24, 2012, 04:15:46 PM

So were hiroshima and nagazaki not atomic bombs, or were they not destroyed at all?

That was firebombing, nothing more. Why do you think the American military chose two cities built mainly out of wood with no strategic military value?

firebombing does not create a mushroom cloud

Why don't you quote it to bring it to the end of the thread. 

Nope, not that it matters.  My point was that you have no qualifications at all, while I have some. 

Piss testers don't have graduate degrees in nuclear physics.

Yeah, yeah, I had a quote error. If you honestly can't figure out what I was responding to, I think you should be worried.

That is a logical fallacy, and a poor one at that. Piss testers don't have graduate degrees in nuclear physics.

How is this possible when it was told that they were so radioactive that people couldn't live there and plants would not grow etc.

I said quote your evidence to bring it to the end of the thread.  The thread is 11 pages long and you said you already posted evidence. All I see you trying to make points. That doesn't constitue evidence.  So feel free to quote or repost the evidence you claimed to have already posted.  sceptimatic needs to actually fix his quote, again. 

I hate to rain on your parade but I don't do pee testing. I of course, don't do nuclear phycis either. It gets old when people try to argue against science because they don't understand it. 
The science behind a nuclear bomb it quite simple.  Take a non critical mass then force the mass into critical state.  Pretty simple.   

You want me to give you evidence that something does not exist? Are you so desperate that this is all you could come up with? "Give me evidence that magical pink unicorns don't

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 25, 2012, 12:56:34 PM

You want me to give you evidence that something does not exist? Are you so desperate that this is all you could come up with? "Give me evidence that magical pink unicorns don't

There are lots of evidence of nuclear explosions. If you want to say nuclear bombs don't exist, you need to disprove them.

No, there aren't. There are lots of pictures labeled as nuclear explosions. It is amazing what thoroughly placed propaganda can do to the mind.



Look, a unicorn! How magical. Imagine I placed this everywhere, history books, biology books. I told everyone how unicorns exist we just don't use them because they're dangerous. Then I post the science behind unicorns. Everyone would indeed believe unicorns are very real and very dangerous, regardless of how they have never seen one, and never will.

You want me to give you evidence that something does not exist? Are you so desperate that this is all you could come up with? "Give me evidence that magical pink unicorns don't exist!"

I, too, am tired of people such as yourself who do not understand basic scientific endeavors, and lap up whatever someone else has told them.

The scientific process of fusion and fission can not cause bombs. It never has, and it never will. It can, however, heat up some water and funnel it through a turbine.

Seriously, are you that bored that you need to stoop to this level of trolling?

Ok, so you said you posted evidence and you can't. Thanks for admitting you lied. 

You want evidence.
Look at how many sub projects were involved.
Watch Day After Trinity, which I already posted.  It is on youtbe.  You will need to debunk that.
Debunk all of what Oppenheimer did.   
They built nuclear triggers 10 miles from where I currently live.  These were nuclear bombs.   After it closed it became a Superfund site.  Explain all the plutonium contamination. Explain all the law suits from radiation poisoning. Explain how a mother of someone I used to play soccer with died from working there.  Explain the Rockey Flat's Grand Jury. I met the foreman of the grand jury. He was a state representative at the time.
Explain how Countries that hate America still talk about nuclear weapons.
Explain  Mordechai Vanunu.
Explain Operation Opera.
Read "Radioactivity, Ionizing Radiation, and Nuclear Energy" By Jiri Hala and James Navratil. I work with James Navatil.  He is a Nobel prize winner. 

The sun can heat the earth from 93 million miles away but it's process can't make a bomb?  Who are you trying to fool?

Feel free to point out where I said that. Keep in mind I do hope you had the intelligence to figure out that quote error. I would hate for you to embarrass yourself again.

I have. It appears to be you who has not.

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">* NUKELIES.ORG - Annotated NUKE LIES - "Do nuclear bombs exist?" - first nuke skeptic video of 2008

The simple answer is that all that you stated is things you simply believe to be true. As they are not evidence at all. I suggest you read some introductory physics textbooks, mainly about thermodynamics and its implications along with relativity. A bomb simply isn't possible, the math barely works, and the reality does not work at all.

You think you can fit the Sun into a room? We can see who the troll really is.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 25, 2012, 02:20:49 PM

Feel free to point out where I said that. Keep in mind I do hope you had the intelligence to figure out that quote error. I would hate for you to embarrass yourself again.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 24, 2012, 07:20:43 PM

I have. It appears to be you who has not.

You don't believe 1,000s of scientists but you believe one youtube video? Nice. The narrator sounds 16 years old max. I'm sure he is an expert in the field. Here is part one of Day After Trinity. Guess you have to believe it too.  And you say I blindly believe in stuff. 
#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Day After Trinity Part 1.avi
Here is what you should have said.

Lrn2mechinism

Where does that say I posted evidence?

Quote from: sokarul on November 24, 2012, 06:59:08 PM

I will get them, in the mean time why don't you post the research you base your opinion on.

I have. It appears to be you who has not.

Nothing like good ol' propaganda from stories to keep the mind chained. Do you have any real evidence?

Now you're just full blown trolling. I'm not surprised, given how badly this has been going for you.

I find it really silly how all these you tube videos of supposed nuclear bombs going off, not once does the camera shake.

In some footage, the bomb doesn't even affect the clouds, yet goes right through them.
The videos are fake and it stands out like a sore thumb.

Now if they can fake the videos, they are hiding something, now what could that be?
Could it be the fact that Nuclear bombs do not and never have worked?

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 25, 2012, 02:42:29 PM

Where does that say I posted evidence?

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 24, 2012, 07:20:43 PM

Quote from: sokarul on November 24, 2012, 06:59:08 PM

I will get them, in the mean time why don't you post the research you base your opinion on.

I have. It appears to be you who has not.

You can't even answer my "fake" evidence, so you won't be able to answer "real" evidence.  You thought posting a youtube video from a unknown kid would constitute as debunking evidence. 

Actually, you just don't know what you are talking about.  Nothing about fusion requires the sun.  Like I said, learn the mechanism. Scientists learn mechanisms so they can be applied to many applications. You wouldn't know this, that is why I told you.   

Quote from: sokarul on November 25, 2012, 04:07:02 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 25, 2012, 03:36:08 PM

I find it really silly how all these you tube videos of supposed nuclear bombs going off, not once does the camera shake.

In some footage, the bomb doesn't even affect the clouds, yet goes right through them.
The videos are fake and it stands out like a sore thumb.

Now if they can fake the videos, they are hiding something, now what could that be?
Could it be the fact that Nuclear bombs do not and never have worked?

You are making assumptions.  Assumptions don't prove points.  Try again.

All I can go on are assumptions.

You say nuclear bombs work without actually knowing if they do or not. That is also an assumption.

What proof do you have?

Just one piece of proof.

You want evidence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhatten_project Look at how many sub projects were involved.
Watch Day After Trinity, which I already posted.  It is on youtbe.  You will need to debunk that.
Debunk all of what Oppenheimer did.   
They built nuclear triggers 10 miles from where I currently live.  These were nuclear bombs.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Flats After it closed it became a Superfund site.  Explain all the plutonium contamination. Explain all the law suits from radiation poisoning. Explain how a mother of someone I used to play soccer with died from working there.  Explain the Rockey Flat's Grand Jury. I met the foreman of the grand jury. He was a state representative at the time.
Explain how Countries that hate America still talk about nuclear weapons.
Explain  Mordechai Vanunu.
Explain Operation Opera.
Read "Radioactivity, Ionizing Radiation, and Nuclear Energy" By Jiri Hala and James Navratil. I work with James Navatil.  He is a Nobel prize winner.

Can you verify that you work with this man and if so,...

..  can you verify that you have seen a nuclear bomb go off, or fissioning inside a nuclear reactor?