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Is FE science, or is it just a club?

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Is FE science, or is it just a club?

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Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« on: April 06, 2025, 06:05:39 PM »
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Aera23

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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2025, 05:49:44 AM »
To me, it feels like a club of people who have an 'ideal flat earth' as part of their imagination and generate whatever talking points 'bring their imagination to life'.
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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2025, 07:48:07 AM »
Flat-earth theory is pseudoscience: It uses the language of science and pretends to be science, but it makes the fundamental error of starting from its conclusion and rejecting any information or data that does not confirm its conclusion. A scientist tries to DISprove their hypotheses and rejects any hypothesis that fails the tests. A pseudoscientist cherry-picks data that supports their hypothesis and makes excuses for data that does not. Pseudoscientists often end up as conspiracy theorists, claiming that some group is nefariously concealing the truth, when their hypotheses fail.

Flat-earthers are huge conspiracy theorists, claiming that all the world's governments and all the world's space agencies and all the world's scientists and all the world's astronauts are in an enormous cabal to hide the truth. Any rational person would look at flat-earthers and conclude that what FE really is, is a joke that has gone viral.
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Aera23

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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2025, 08:06:59 PM »
Quote from: magellanclavichord on April 11, 2025, 07:48:07 AM
Flat-earth theory is pseudoscience: It uses the language of science and pretends to be science, but it makes the fundamental error of starting from its conclusion and rejecting any information or data that does not confirm its conclusion. A scientist tries to DISprove their hypotheses and rejects any hypothesis that fails the tests. A pseudoscientist cherry-picks data that supports their hypothesis and makes excuses for data that does not. Pseudoscientists often end up as conspiracy theorists, claiming that some group is nefariously concealing the truth, when their hypotheses fail.

Flat-earthers are huge conspiracy theorists, claiming that all the world's governments and all the world's space agencies and all the world's scientists and all the world's astronauts are in an enormous cabal to hide the truth. Any rational person would look at flat-earthers and conclude that what FE really is, is a joke that has gone viral.

So true. When a 'scientist' stops accepting results and tries to flog a dead horse (retrying the same failed experiments excessively hoping they magically work), they become pseudoscientists. Flat Earthers have entered that point a long time ago.

Cherry picking data is bad enough, but making up data, strawmans, etc to fit a narrative... that goes from pseudoscience and into deception and lying... or delusion.
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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM »
Round Earthers thinking they have science on their side.

Offhand, buoyancy existed long before Newton "solved" the problem of why things fall.
Meanwhile, the distance from the sun is based on an infinite wave concept that requires energy on a fundamental level to defy the second law of thermodynamics. Oh sure, we can see light forever (ignoring first the limits of perspective), we can see things billions of miles away because we're just that awesome. Never mind that in order for this to be so, the source of light would have to be perpetual to continue supplying light at motion.  A typical flashlight from the 1980s begins to dim over a matter of yards not miles.
This is before even talking about how artists and everyone involved in construction knows things have to be level to work.

Me when I hear Round Earthers speak.
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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2025, 03:47:25 PM »
Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Round Earthers thinking they have science on their side.

Offhand, buoyancy existed long before Newton "solved" the problem of why things fall.
Buoyancy  is why things float.  Gravity is why things sink.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Meanwhile, the distance from the sun is based on an infinite wave concept that requires energy on a fundamental level to defy the second law of thermodynamics.
I'm afraid to ask, but what wave concept defies the second law of thermodynamics?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Oh sure, we can see light forever (ignoring first the limits of perspective), we can see things billions of miles away because we're just that awesome.
Or, some things are just that big and bright.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Never mind that in order for this to be so, the source of light would have to be perpetual to continue supplying light at motion. 
Huh?! ???

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
A typical flashlight from the 1980s begins to dim over a matter of yards not miles.
Are you seriously comparing a star to a flashlight? ???

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
This is before even talking about how artists and everyone involved in construction knows things have to be level to work.
Does anyone have any idea of what Bulma is babbling about?
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Re: Is FE science, or is it just a club?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2025, 04:39:18 PM »
Quote from: markjo on May 16, 2025, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Round Earthers thinking they have science on their side.

Offhand, buoyancy existed long before Newton "solved" the problem of why things fall.
Buoyancy  is why things float.  Gravity is why things sink.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Meanwhile, the distance from the sun is based on an infinite wave concept that requires energy on a fundamental level to defy the second law of thermodynamics.
I'm afraid to ask, but what wave concept defies the second law of thermodynamics?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Oh sure, we can see light forever (ignoring first the limits of perspective), we can see things billions of miles away because we're just that awesome.
Or, some things are just that big and bright.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
Never mind that in order for this to be so, the source of light would have to be perpetual to continue supplying light at motion. 
Huh?! ???

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
A typical flashlight from the 1980s begins to dim over a matter of yards not miles.
Are you seriously comparing a star to a flashlight? ???

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 14, 2025, 02:12:27 PM
This is before even talking about how artists and everyone involved in construction knows things have to be level to work.
Does anyone have any idea of what Bulma is babbling about?

He's babbling about the fact, construction workers (except when constructing long tunnels that meet underground or very long bridges that meet in the middle) and artists, don't worry about earth curvature.
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For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.
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