Why do we let our daughters dress like that?

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #150 on: April 20, 2011, 08:24:18 PM »
So if someone is offended by Disney should they stop making t shirts with Mickey Mouse? (just an example) People are offended by many things, we can't accommodate people's issues. If someone is offended by KKK shirt for example, simply don't buy it, but don't violate the rights of others to express themselves. If we start banning certain clothes or certain logos, we will create a chain reaction of censorship, resulting in everyone wearing plain white t shirts.
that was non-sequitur.  no personal harm there
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #151 on: April 20, 2011, 08:43:15 PM »
You might be offended by KKK but wearing political or even unfavorable slogans is protected by a first amendment. Some people might be offended by Malcolm X, does it mean we regulate how people dress and turn our nation into a dictatorship?

"A [sic] first amendment [sic]" does not apply where Wendy lives, and nor do any other U.S. laws, despite what numerous American businesses would have you believe. You look just as stupid and ignorant as they do when you implicitly impose your own country's rules and regulations on others.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #152 on: April 20, 2011, 09:26:54 PM »
Well I don't give a shit what other countries do, I argue first amendment rights of U.S. constitution. Do you think the Disney example was bad? OK vhu, you can't deny that some people are offended by Christianity, should we ban shirts with crosses on it or Jesus face? Now do you see how ridiculous censorship is?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #153 on: April 21, 2011, 12:10:30 AM »
I actually think that this discussion is pretty funny, since I never advocated banning or forbidding anything. I simply said that if you dress like an idiot, I and everyone around me is going to tell you that you do.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #154 on: April 21, 2011, 01:11:15 AM »
So if someone is offended by Disney should they stop making t shirts with Mickey Mouse? (just an example) People are offended by many things, we can't accommodate people's issues. If someone is offended by KKK shirt for example, simply don't buy it, but don't violate the rights of others to express themselves. If we start banning certain clothes or certain logos, we will create a chain reaction of censorship, resulting in everyone wearing plain white t shirts.
that was non-sequitur.  no personal harm there
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #155 on: April 21, 2011, 09:01:41 PM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #156 on: April 21, 2011, 09:14:08 PM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #157 on: April 21, 2011, 09:18:47 PM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #158 on: April 21, 2011, 09:24:38 PM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #159 on: April 21, 2011, 09:26:09 PM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?
sorry, somehow, what i typed dint show up

but it can instigate a fight
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #160 on: April 21, 2011, 09:28:49 PM »
Well of course if something causes physical harm its against the law, duh. I Just thought you meant that a t shirt with certain logos can cause harm.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #161 on: April 22, 2011, 12:58:54 AM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?

You are allowed to wear a kkk shirt wherever you want. There are no LEGAL restrictions. At most an employer can fire you, or a school can discipline you, but it is in no way illegal. They KKK regularly demonstrates in black areas, usually to cause riots where the community will literally destroy their own neighborhood. It is protected speech despite this.

Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #162 on: April 22, 2011, 04:25:35 AM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?

You are allowed to wear a kkk shirt wherever you want. There are no LEGAL restrictions. At most an employer can fire you, or a school can discipline you, but it is in no way illegal. They KKK regularly demonstrates in black areas, usually to cause riots where the community will literally destroy their own neighborhood. It is protected speech despite this.


Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #163 on: April 22, 2011, 04:33:52 AM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?

You are allowed to wear a kkk shirt wherever you want. There are no LEGAL restrictions. At most an employer can fire you, or a school can discipline you, but it is in no way illegal. They KKK regularly demonstrates in black areas, usually to cause riots where the community will literally destroy their own neighborhood. It is protected speech despite this.


Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.

So you're okay with the KKK marching through Baltimore in full pointy-ghost garb but not with a woman wearing a miniskirt? This isn't about dress with the potential to offend any more, is it?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #164 on: April 22, 2011, 08:43:19 AM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?

You are allowed to wear a kkk shirt wherever you want. There are no LEGAL restrictions. At most an employer can fire you, or a school can discipline you, but it is in no way illegal. They KKK regularly demonstrates in black areas, usually to cause riots where the community will literally destroy their own neighborhood. It is protected speech despite this.


Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.

So you're okay with the KKK marching through Baltimore in full pointy-ghost garb but not with a woman wearing a miniskirt? This isn't about dress with the potential to offend any more, is it?

Truthfully nudity is not as legally acceptable as hate speech in america. More women have been arrested for showing too much leg, than people have been arrested for walking around in pointy hats in poor neighborhoods.

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #165 on: April 22, 2011, 11:46:30 AM »
i dont think you fully understand the entire first amendment.  we dont have unlimited freedom.  my high school, (public, part of government) bans the wearing of red and blue.  they are allowed to do that becuase the first ammendment has restrictions.
if you are causing physical harm (gang colors are red and blue) you cant do it.  thats why you cant do a religion where you eat a baby from another family, or mass murder people for your religion.


I have a degree in Political Science so I understand the first amendment very well. However you don't understand the argument I'm presenting. You are still in high school so I understand, no problem let me explain. You are correct in regards with a first amendment having restrictions. For example you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or you can't preach to people at work about Jesus. So yes first amendment does have limitations especially in public places. However if you want to wear a t shirt that says KKK on it, its perfectly fine, as long as you are not wearing it to work, school or other places where there is a code of conduct.

or if in your neighborhood it causes physical harm to people around you




How can a KKK t shirt cause physical harm?

You are allowed to wear a kkk shirt wherever you want. There are no LEGAL restrictions. At most an employer can fire you, or a school can discipline you, but it is in no way illegal. They KKK regularly demonstrates in black areas, usually to cause riots where the community will literally destroy their own neighborhood. It is protected speech despite this.


Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.

So you're okay with the KKK marching through Baltimore in full pointy-ghost garb but not with a woman wearing a miniskirt? This isn't about dress with the potential to offend any more, is it?

Truthfully nudity is not as legally acceptable as hate speech in america. More women have been arrested for showing too much leg, than people have been arrested for walking around in pointy hats in poor neighborhoods.
What's your problem with poor people wearing dunce caps?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #166 on: April 22, 2011, 04:00:15 PM »
Who told you they were poor?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2011, 02:15:22 AM »
Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.

i dont think you are getting my point.

my point is if that kk shirt is causing fights and such, they can restrict you from wearing it
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2011, 03:09:39 AM »
Correct. vhu doesn't understand law too well he is still young.

i dont think you are getting my point.

my point is if that kk shirt is causing fights and such, they can restrict you from wearing it

They really can't. Unless you are specifically telling people to attack other people (i.e. taking an active part, rather than some "I KILL (NEGROIDS)" T-shirt.)

Also, I swapped out that word we're not allowed to use now for one that's apparently less offensive. It sounds much worse, mind, but it's allowed.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #169 on: April 23, 2011, 03:32:40 AM »
Yep General is correct. However certain places have codes of conduct and certain logos are disallowed. For example some theme parks won't let you in if you have profanity written on your shirt. I'm sure  you can't wear KKK shirt to school either. But in general you can wear KKK shirt on the street and its not against the law.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #170 on: April 23, 2011, 03:44:09 AM »
Yep General is correct. However certain places have codes of conduct and certain logos are disallowed. For example some theme parks won't let you in if you have profanity written on your shirt. I'm sure  you can't wear KKK shirt to school either. But in general you can wear KKK shirt on the street and its not against the law.

...but you can't wear a miniskirt?
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #171 on: April 23, 2011, 03:53:15 AM »
Yep General is correct. However certain places have codes of conduct and certain logos are disallowed. For example some theme parks won't let you in if you have profanity written on your shirt. I'm sure  you can't wear KKK shirt to school either. But in general you can wear KKK shirt on the street and its not against the law.

...but you can't wear a miniskirt?


Miniskirt works the same way KKK shirt does. Certain establishments or organizations won't allow it, but there are no state or federal laws against it.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #172 on: April 23, 2011, 02:57:50 PM »
We let our daughters dress like that because it is the standard of society.

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #173 on: April 23, 2011, 03:03:48 PM »
I don't have any daughters. lol
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #174 on: April 27, 2011, 07:13:02 AM »
We let our daughters dress like that because it is the standard of society.

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And you are ok with that?

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #175 on: April 27, 2011, 07:19:05 AM »
Unless people are getting maimed or killed, society can do whatever the fuck it wants. It does have strength in numbers, you know. But only slightly.
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #176 on: May 03, 2011, 11:04:52 AM »
We let our daughters dress like that because it is the standard of society.

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And you are ok with that?

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #177 on: May 03, 2011, 06:36:03 PM »
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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #178 on: May 03, 2011, 06:56:57 PM »
Are we seriously still talking about this?

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Re: Why do we let our daughters dress like that?
« Reply #179 on: May 03, 2011, 10:19:17 PM »