Quote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 11:10:31 AMQuote from: markjo on September 16, 2010, 06:22:49 AMQuote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 12:08:13 AMQuote from: General Disarray on September 15, 2010, 09:35:56 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans#Earliest_ancestorsUnless early wolves had hoofs, that link does not support your claim that a wolves evolved into whales.I am not making the claim that wolves evolved into whales.Then why did you bring it up?
Quote from: markjo on September 16, 2010, 06:22:49 AMQuote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 12:08:13 AMQuote from: General Disarray on September 15, 2010, 09:35:56 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans#Earliest_ancestorsUnless early wolves had hoofs, that link does not support your claim that a wolves evolved into whales.I am not making the claim that wolves evolved into whales.
Quote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 12:08:13 AMQuote from: General Disarray on September 15, 2010, 09:35:56 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans#Earliest_ancestorsUnless early wolves had hoofs, that link does not support your claim that a wolves evolved into whales.
Quote from: General Disarray on September 15, 2010, 09:35:56 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans#Earliest_ancestors
Quote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.
for a wolf to turn into a whale
Quote from: markjo on September 16, 2010, 12:31:03 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 11:10:31 AMQuote from: markjo on September 16, 2010, 06:22:49 AMQuote from: Johannes on September 16, 2010, 12:08:13 AMQuote from: General Disarray on September 15, 2010, 09:35:56 PMQuote from: Johannes on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PMfor a wolf to turn into a whalewatPlus, evolution has evidence, dinosaurs building ocean-going boats does not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans#Earliest_ancestorsUnless early wolves had hoofs, that link does not support your claim that a wolves evolved into whales.I am not making the claim that wolves evolved into whales.Then why did you bring it up?Because certain evolutionary biologists have proposed wolf-like (according to "science" wolves are recent) creatures evolved into whales.
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.
Because certain evolutionary biologists have proposed wolf-like (according to "science" wolves are recent) creatures evolved into whales.
Have you considered the possibility that the essence of a wolf is in fact not phylogenetic, but based rather on its dimensions, appearance and behaviour?
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards
We're all jealous of Raist.
In what circumstances would it be possible to try and interbreed a prehistoric wolf with a modern one? It seems that we are in need of a Jurassic Park - or perhaps an Eocene Park for these two types of wolves to intermingle.
Oh, no, I think you misunderstood my point. I was just curious as to whether the possibility had been considered. I am happy that the variety of ways in which we use the word "wolf" is a loose cloud of applications with no single defining feature.
Yes, and as I have hopefully communicated, the modern wolf is one of they ways in which we generally use the word wolf, and the ancient wolf, which evolved into the modern whale, is another!
Quote from: James on September 22, 2010, 05:24:09 PMYes, and as I have hopefully communicated, the modern wolf is one of they ways in which we generally use the word wolf, and the ancient wolf, which evolved into the modern whale, is another!Please show us any scientific article that claims wolf evolved into the modern whale. Oh is asking you for evidence even worth the trouble? You don't seem to care much for providing it.
You must please understand that when one uses the word "wolf" one may quite well by involved in quite different applications - one may be correct both in saying "wolves evolved into whales" and in saying "whales precede wolves", simply because the word "wolf" possesses many referents and many systems of use.This is why it is best to say "ancient wolves evolved into whales" and "whales precede modern wolves" so that it may be more obvious what we mean when we use these terms outside of a context which dictates their meaning more intuitively.
Can we trust anything you say, or not?
You don't want to make an enemy of me. I'm very powerful.
Quote from: ClockTower on September 22, 2010, 08:09:45 PMCan we trust anything you say, or not?You must be new here.
Quote from: James on September 22, 2010, 08:06:32 PMYou must please understand that when one uses the word "wolf" one may quite well by involved in quite different applications - one may be correct both in saying "wolves evolved into whales" and in saying "whales precede wolves", simply because the word "wolf" possesses many referents and many systems of use.This is why it is best to say "ancient wolves evolved into whales" and "whales precede modern wolves" so that it may be more obvious what we mean when we use these terms outside of a context which dictates their meaning more intuitively.So can you provide any evidence that anyone else has ever said that "wolves evolved into whales" or not? Can we trust anything you say, or not?
Quote from: ClockTower on September 22, 2010, 08:09:45 PMQuote from: James on September 22, 2010, 08:06:32 PMYou must please understand that when one uses the word "wolf" one may quite well by involved in quite different applications - one may be correct both in saying "wolves evolved into whales" and in saying "whales precede wolves", simply because the word "wolf" possesses many referents and many systems of use.This is why it is best to say "ancient wolves evolved into whales" and "whales precede modern wolves" so that it may be more obvious what we mean when we use these terms outside of a context which dictates their meaning more intuitively.So can you provide any evidence that anyone else has ever said that "wolves evolved into whales" or not? Can we trust anything you say, or not?Yes, Johannes also said it on the previous page. As long as he does not delete his post, you are free to review it at any time!
I am not making the claim that wolves evolved into whales.
Yes, Johannes also said it on the previous page. As long as he does not delete his post, you are free to review it at any time!
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