it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?

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It could be possible that the earth is flat and round at the same time. That is to say that it is physically flat but there's a spherical filter around it that gives this optical illusion that it is round? This could explain both religion and science !

A God filter that convert polar coordinates to spherical coordinates and in the same time it gives us the sensation of day and night !!!!

Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 08:12:56 AM »
that would mean that the conpsiracy could not make boat loads of money.
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iWitness

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 10:45:16 AM »
It IS Possible:





Disclaimer: I am confused. Everything I say is speculative and not admissible in a court of law; however, I am neither insane nor a threat to myself or others. I am simply curious about everything in life and enjoy talking about crazy shit. Oh, & btw I like turtles.

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Mizuki

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 11:58:59 AM »
It could be possible that the earth is flat and round at the same time. That is to say that it is physically flat but there's a spherical filter around it that gives this optical illusion that it is round? This could explain both religion and science !

A God filter that convert polar coordinates to spherical coordinates and in the same time it gives us the sensation of day and night !!!!

Hi Ard.

I belieue your statement is uery close to the truth.

If you check out Lactantius" thread in Flat Earth Debate about Ernst Barthel - http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52576.0 - he elaborates a little on this uery idea.

Mizuki x
"Earth is a maximal sphere in a cyclical space and its surface therefore a total plane, the equator plane of the Cosmos. The (total) plane, as well as the straight line and space as a whole, is flat, without curvature yet closed, running back on itself."

Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 12:16:29 PM »
In fact i developed this idea from the coran. there is clear verses that say that earth is flat, but in the same time there is other verses that mention that god create night and day even before creating the sun and that night and day are a spherical creation.

this is what guide me to say probably what god call night and day are some  kind a filters that make us feel just like earth is round but in fact it is flat. I am glad that my idea is not considered like a foolish !!! Maybe you can develop more this idea with me

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BoatswainsMate

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
It IS Possible:



The two happy ghosts are funny, maybe that God looks angry because the two ghosts are undermining him being happy below the Earth! Silly ghosts I will call one casper and the other shall be Nostradamus (he is happy because he predicted he would end up there!)

Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 01:47:51 PM »
I always speculated that the earth is infect both flat and round. I actually think that the earth might be infinite and that all universe is connected terrestrially. I developed the term called the "flat sphere" where I describe round earth as some sort of an illusion or a matrix. I think that somehow we are locked into this particular dimension of ours to perceive the reality as outer space where independent spherical bodies called planets are spread apart by great distances. Perhaps if we were to raise our vibrational frequency or travel to another dimension, the illusion of empty outer space and isolated spherical earth would vanish and we will see a clear picture of the universe as continual terrestrial infinity with no spaces in between worlds.

Amadeo F Giannini wrote a book called Worlds Beyond the Poles where he talks about physical connection of the universe. He claims that if one is to travel beyond the north or south pole, one would travel away from earth globe and encounter new uncharted land to what the ancients referred as celestial continents. Giannini gives the famous Admiral R Byrd expedition beyond the north pole as proof to such occurance. Perhaps this is true. It can be that the poles of the earth are the closed gates that are preventing us from going further. Perhaps one day these polar gates will be broken and we will be able to see the full extend of infinite earth/universe.
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Nolhekh

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 02:09:02 PM »
If space is spherical, and travelling in one direction for long enough brings you to the same point you started from, what happens when you travel straight up?  Do you encounter the bottom of the earth and have to dig all the way through it?  If so, why can't we see the bottom of the earth?  What if you travelled at a 30 degree incline, or 1 degree incline? if the total distance you travel is the same to reach your starting point, then each angle has you ascending different amounts to reach that point?



The question marks in this diagram illustrate my confusion regarding what happens to the ground between you and yourself along inclined vectors.  If one such vector was at an angle so shallow that when reaching my starting position, I would have only ascended 1 metre, at what point do I encounter the change in ground level as I aproach my starting position?  Since there are an infinite number of possible angles, why am I not surrounded by an infinite number of gound levels?

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 10:44:32 PM »
It is completely possible, and in fact it is FE belief that the Earth is flat and round.

After all, it is not as though we believe the Earth to be a flat square. It is a flat round disk.

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Mizuki

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Re: it is possible that earth is flat and round at the same time ?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 03:39:14 AM »
It is completely possible, and in fact it is FE belief that the Earth is flat and round.

After all, it is not as though we believe the Earth to be a flat square. It is a flat round disk.

Not all who belieue the earth to be flat hold this uiew. The earth is not a flat, round disk. I belieue that Lactantius" understanding of the true nature of the earth is as close to the truth as this forum has yet come.

Mizuki x

"Earth is a maximal sphere in a cyclical space and its surface therefore a total plane, the equator plane of the Cosmos. The (total) plane, as well as the straight line and space as a whole, is flat, without curvature yet closed, running back on itself."