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CHEMTRAILS..... Fact or Fiction?
ausGeoff:
From a round earther's perspective, alleged "chemtrails" simply don't exist, and are just a manifestation of yet another conspiracy theory.
What we see in the image (above) are correctly described as "contrails". Contrails are lengthy condensation "trails" formed behind jet aircraft when their engine's condensate rapidly freezes into ice crystals. When burned, fuel containing hydrogen is combined with oxygen in the air to form water vapour, among other byproducts. Contrails form when water vapour in the exhaust from jet engines then freezes high in the troposphere where aircraft cruise. If the ambient air is dry, contrails will evaporate almost immediately. The ambient air must be close to saturation with water for a persistent condensation trail to form.
And this image (below) shows what chemtrails look like (and European Honey Buzzards):
Patrick Minnis Ph.D, B.Eng, M.Sc, a senior research scientist at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, studied satellite images of contrail clouds of military craft during the three days airports were shut down in the US after the 9/11 attacks. On a typical day, an estimated 13,000 planes criss-cross the nation's skies.
They create so many contrails that cross each other's paths that the satellite images are just a blur. Minnis found that the cirrus clouds formed from these contrails lasted an average of six to eight hours and that six to eight contrails can grow to form a cloud cover the size of Massachusetts.
To understand the extent to which conspiracy theorists are prepared to go, check out these two images which were posted to two separate blogs:
100's of commercial airline pilots protesting in New York against chemtrails...
They don't look like conspiracy theorists to me.(Meaning responsible airline captains couldn't and/or wouldn't be lying would they? And they, of all people, should know.)
Over 700 hundred Continental and United pilots, joined by additional pilots from other Air Line Pilots Association
(ALPA) carriers, demonstrate in front of Wall Street on September 27, 2011 in New York City.
The first image (obviously) is from a "chemtrail" conspiracy site, and the second image is from the UK Daily Mail (Australia) site. I wonder how many flat earthers also believe that the US government is spraying its citizens with some sort of chemical cocktail in order to dumb them down? I don't for a moment believe it is, but judging by some of the weird and wonderful responses from the flat earthers, I'm beginning to have a tiny modicum of doubt. ;D
th3rm0m3t3r0:
--- Quote from: ausGeoff on June 20, 2014, 11:47:12 AM ---From a round earther's perspective, alleged "chemtrails" simply don't exist, and are just a manifestation of yet another conspiracy theory.
--- End quote ---
And any other sane person.
Can we move on from this topic?
I mean, really, what's this doing in FE General?
What does this have to do with a flat Earth?
Why do you feel a need to feed the trolls of this site?
You're doing all of us a great disservice, especially when we just finished a multi-page thread on this exact same topic. (Which was also in the upper fora, and stayed there for whatever reason.)
All chemtrail nonsense should be promptly moved to CN.
That's what it is, after all.
Shmeggley:
--- Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 20, 2014, 12:15:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: ausGeoff on June 20, 2014, 11:47:12 AM ---From a round earther's perspective, alleged "chemtrails" simply don't exist, and are just a manifestation of yet another conspiracy theory.
--- End quote ---
And any other sane person.
Can we move on from this topic?
I mean, really, what's this doing in FE General?
What does this have to do with a flat Earth?
Why do you feel a need to feed the trolls of this site?
You're doing all of us a great disservice, especially when we just finished a multi-page thread on this exact same topic. (Which was also in the upper fora, and stayed there for whatever reason.)
All chemtrail nonsense should be promptly moved to CN.
That's what it is, after all.
--- End quote ---
Well, FE general is for conspiracy related topics. One could argue that the "RE conspiracy" is run by the same people that do chemtrails. How are chemtrails any more ridiculous than FET?
th3rm0m3t3r0:
--- Quote from: Shmeggley on June 20, 2014, 12:25:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 20, 2014, 12:15:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: ausGeoff on June 20, 2014, 11:47:12 AM ---From a round earther's perspective, alleged "chemtrails" simply don't exist, and are just a manifestation of yet another conspiracy theory.
--- End quote ---
And any other sane person.
Can we move on from this topic?
I mean, really, what's this doing in FE General?
What does this have to do with a flat Earth?
Why do you feel a need to feed the trolls of this site?
You're doing all of us a great disservice, especially when we just finished a multi-page thread on this exact same topic. (Which was also in the upper fora, and stayed there for whatever reason.)
All chemtrail nonsense should be promptly moved to CN.
That's what it is, after all.
--- End quote ---
Well, FE general is for conspiracy related topics. One could argue that the "RE conspiracy" is run by the same people that do chemtrails. How are chemtrails any more ridiculous than FET?
--- End quote ---
Is all of this just an over-elaborate attempt to knock a straw man down?
Obviously those are contrails.
FE General is for FE related conspiracy topics. Not things like chemtrail conspiracies.
Shmeggley:
--- Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 20, 2014, 12:32:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shmeggley on June 20, 2014, 12:25:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 20, 2014, 12:15:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: ausGeoff on June 20, 2014, 11:47:12 AM ---From a round earther's perspective, alleged "chemtrails" simply don't exist, and are just a manifestation of yet another conspiracy theory.
--- End quote ---
And any other sane person.
Can we move on from this topic?
I mean, really, what's this doing in FE General?
What does this have to do with a flat Earth?
Why do you feel a need to feed the trolls of this site?
You're doing all of us a great disservice, especially when we just finished a multi-page thread on this exact same topic. (Which was also in the upper fora, and stayed there for whatever reason.)
All chemtrail nonsense should be promptly moved to CN.
That's what it is, after all.
--- End quote ---
Well, FE general is for conspiracy related topics. One could argue that the "RE conspiracy" is run by the same people that do chemtrails. How are chemtrails any more ridiculous than FET?
--- End quote ---
Is all of this just an over-elaborate attempt to knock a straw man down?
Obviously those are contrails.
FE General is for FE related conspiracy topics. Not things like chemtrail conspiracies.
--- End quote ---
Anyway, regardless of where the thread belongs, I think it's interesting that you think chemtrails are an absurdity not even worthy of discussion, yet a conspiracy that fakes Moon landings and ISS footage is not only debatable but plausible. Please correct me if I've got you confused with someone else. If not, why is one less likely than the other?
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