Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2013, 01:46:33 AM »
This one, from much higher up, looks very flat to me.



Did you try opening it in a picture editor and drawing a straight line from the left extremity of the horizon to the right extremity? I did. The horizon curves.

Also, this picture looks like it's zoomed in significantly. Of course the horizon doesn't curve that much in a zoomed photo.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2013, 02:21:39 AM »
Also, could some of the RE respond to the issue Jroa raised about the fact most RE won't agree that you can see the curvature from an airplane? Have a look at my two photos I presented, with the original source on the previous page. All things I say are verifiable looking at the source of the photos (linkes provided).

I have already drawn the conclusion, but have a look on your own. Based on the facts it is the same flight, the same person, the same window, the same plane, the same date. One picture is taken close to the ground, the other high in the air. If there were any distortions on the lens or window, the distortion would be visible on both photos? Does the first picture show you a genuine curvature of the earth or not?

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2013, 10:20:34 AM »
This one, from much higher up, looks very flat to me.



Did you try opening it in a picture editor and drawing a straight line from the left extremity of the horizon to the right extremity? I did. The horizon curves.

I think we have already established that photos taken from a porthole window on a plane are distorted.  I was pointing out the fact that this picture, taken from a much higher altitude, looks much flatter than the one taken from less than 1km that Lol posted.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2013, 10:23:09 AM »
Also, could some of the RE respond to the issue Jroa raised about the fact most RE won't agree that you can see the curvature from an airplane? Have a look at my two photos I presented, with the original source on the previous page. All things I say are verifiable looking at the source of the photos (linkes provided).

I have already drawn the conclusion, but have a look on your own. Based on the facts it is the same flight, the same person, the same window, the same plane, the same date. One picture is taken close to the ground, the other high in the air. If there were any distortions on the lens or window, the distortion would be visible on both photos? Does the first picture show you a genuine curvature of the earth or not?

Yes, do any RE'ers think that you should see curvature in these pictures of a plane about to land?  Can we all just agree that lens distortion is in effect here?

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2013, 12:07:05 PM »
There is no curvature to the earth, certainly not visible from any airplane. All I ever see is a flat expanse stretching out to the limits of my vision, often around 200 miles. The funny thing, at that distance the earth is supposed to have curved around 3 miles downwards, something that should be immediately and strikingly apparent. Seeing as I, nor anyone else, has ever seen curvature of this nature... I can pretty confidently say the earth is flat.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2013, 12:23:53 PM »
Yes, do any RE'ers think that you should see curvature in these pictures of a plane about to land?  Can we all just agree that lens distortion is in effect here?

Jroa, keep to the facts. I never stated anywhere you were able to see a curvature on the second photo. Quote me on that and you will have a point. If you find you are unable to do so, then I will ignore you completely as you obviously make stuff up and it is not worth my effort spending time on rave out nonsense.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2013, 12:51:22 PM »
There is no curvature to the earth, certainly not visible from any airplane. All I ever see is a flat expanse stretching out to the limits of my vision, often around 200 miles. The funny thing, at that distance the earth is supposed to have curved around 3 miles downwards, something that should be immediately and strikingly apparent. Seeing as I, nor anyone else, has ever seen curvature of this nature... I can pretty confidently say the earth is flat.

The far distance view is proof on its own. You are not able to look the same distance from the ground, because was lies beyond your vision is beneath the horizon. As soon as you start to ascend, you are able to see much further, because you can see 'over' what was previously your horizon. You can't look around corners either, can you?

Edit: Those 3 miles is seen over a distance of 200 miles. That means for every mile you look, the earth is curved by only 3/200 = 0.015 miles, which is the equivalent of 24 meters or about 79 feet. This is a rather small curvature to see clearly. Not impossible, but if clouds cover your view, it becomes a lot harder. Hence we ("Round Earthers") say, in general you will not be able to see it from an airplane, but only from higher altitudes.

But as you can see on the pictures I posted before in this topic, with almost clear blue skies, you are able to see and capture the curvature. And the second photo, from the same person, flight, etc, shows you a straight horizon. Which would be impossible if there were any distortion on the window or camera.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2013, 06:48:34 PM »
There is no curvature to the earth, certainly not visible from any airplane. All I ever see is a flat expanse stretching out to the limits of my vision, often around 200 miles. The funny thing, at that distance the earth is supposed to have curved around 3 miles downwards, something that should be immediately and strikingly apparent. Seeing as I, nor anyone else, has ever seen curvature of this nature... I can pretty confidently say the earth is flat.

So what you're saying is that you can see about 200 miles from an altitude of 30,000 - 40,000 feet (around 6 miles)? You can only see about 3 miles from ground level. If the earth were actually flat, the same 200 mile limit would apply from ground level as well. Don't pull out the "atmosphere obscures sight" excuse either, it doesn't work, the horizon is just too crisp (on a good day). Even on a bad day, I can still see the mountains 20 miles away and more.

EDIT: Rip, you have actually seen firsthand evidence of a round earth. The difference in visible distances between ground level (~3 miles) and altitude (200+ miles) you witnessed is literally impossible on a flat earth.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2013, 07:28:52 PM »
I've seen the curvature from a mere 2500 feet looking at a major city 60 miles away located at sea-level.  Only the top part of the tallest buildings were visible sticking up past the horizon.

I've also seen it from about 1 foot looking at a hillside 12 miles away across an expanse of water.

Also had the rare opportunity to watch the moon set from around 30,000 feet while flying to Korea.  Squashed down flat it did.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2013, 11:03:35 PM »
Yes, do any RE'ers think that you should see curvature in these pictures of a plane about to land?  Can we all just agree that lens distortion is in effect here?

Jroa, keep to the facts. I never stated anywhere you were able to see a curvature on the second photo. Quote me on that and you will have a point. If you find you are unable to do so, then I will ignore you completely as you obviously make stuff up and it is not worth my effort spending time on rave out nonsense.

Both pictures are of a plane about to land.  I am guessing, but the first appears to be from around 3 thousand feet and the second from less than 1 thousand feet.  Clearly, this is not cruising altitude, which would be over 30,000 ft.

Also, both pictures show curvature of the horizon. 

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2013, 11:35:56 PM »
Yes, do any RE'ers think that you should see curvature in these pictures of a plane about to land?  Can we all just agree that lens distortion is in effect here?

Jroa, keep to the facts. I never stated anywhere you were able to see a curvature on the second photo. Quote me on that and you will have a point. If you find you are unable to do so, then I will ignore you completely as you obviously make stuff up and it is not worth my effort spending time on rave out nonsense.

Both pictures are of a plane about to land.  I am guessing, but the first appears to be from around 3 thousand feet and the second from less than 1 thousand feet.  Clearly, this is not cruising altitude, which would be over 30,000 ft.

Also, both pictures show curvature of the horizon.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but you are rotten at guessing altitude from pictures jroa.

Judging by the apparent size of the skyscrapers in the landing pic, you're not too far off with it, it looks more like 2,000 - 3,000 feet though, not 1,000. As for the high pic, with the clouds being so far below the plane, I'd say it's quite a lot more than 3,000 feet! It actually wouldn't be too far off cruising altitude, maybe 20,000 - 30,000 feet. Do some more flying mate, you'll enjoy it! And you might learn something useful. ;)
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2013, 11:44:44 PM »

I don't mean this to be insulting, but you are rotten at guessing altitude from pictures jroa.

Judging by the apparent size of the skyscrapers in the landing pic, you're not too far off with it, it looks more like 2,000 - 3,000 feet though, not 1,000. As for the high pic, with the clouds being so far below the plane, I'd say it's quite a lot more than 3,000 feet! It actually wouldn't be too far off cruising altitude, maybe 20,000 - 30,000 feet. Do some more flying mate, you'll enjoy it! And you might learn something useful. ;)

That's what I said. Perhaps if someone else says it the thruth will slowly get to him.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2013, 07:41:22 PM »
Do any FE's on this forum own any pictures that show clearly the earth is flat?

Thank you.

Most pictures taken from a high altitude show a flat earth. The rest are fakes.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2013, 04:41:36 PM »
Many are obviously not real. At a glance some do look real to me. But then I have never personally seen the Earth from a great distance (have you?). So the only way I can really judge whether it is "real" is by considering the source of the picture and whether it is credible. Of course if you think the Earth is flat to begin with you will likely not consider any of the pictures depicting a round Earth as real. That prejudice is your problem. In other words, who cares if they do not "look real" to you?

With thousands of satellites up there, I find it alarming that all we get are artist concepts and photoshopped pictures of a "globe." That is a huge red flag that hey, maybe there isn't a globe.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2013, 04:52:03 PM »
Do any FE's on this forum own any pictures that show clearly the earth is flat?

Thank you.

Most pictures taken from a high altitude show a flat earth. The rest are fakes.

You do not have to leave the earth's surface to see the earth is curved. Look at this picture for example. The bottom part is below the horizon. Reason? Earth is curved.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2013, 05:03:20 PM »
Do any FE's on this forum own any pictures that show clearly the earth is flat?

Thank you.

Most pictures taken from a high altitude show a flat earth. The rest are fakes.

You do not have to leave the earth's surface to see the earth is curved. Look at this picture for example. The bottom part is below the horizon. Reason? Earth is curved.

The horizon seems to curve in the wrong direction in the photo.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2013, 05:40:41 PM »
Do any FE's on this forum own any pictures that show clearly the earth is flat?

Thank you.

Most pictures taken from a high altitude show a flat earth. The rest are fakes.

You do not have to leave the earth's surface to see the earth is curved. Look at this picture for example. The bottom part is below the horizon. Reason? Earth is curved.
The horizon is curving the wrong way.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2013, 05:41:43 PM »
Do any FE's on this forum own any pictures that show clearly the earth is flat?

Thank you.

Most pictures taken from a high altitude show a flat earth. The rest are fakes.

You do not have to leave the earth's surface to see the earth is curved. Look at this picture for example. The bottom part is below the horizon. Reason? Earth is curved.
The horizon is curving the wrong way.

He wasn't speaking specifically of the horizon but more of the buildings being partially covered by the lake.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2013, 05:44:21 PM »
Did you actually make a direct comparison to a straight line? Or are you just going off what it looks like as usual?
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2013, 05:58:57 PM »

The horizon seems to curve in the wrong direction in the photo.

No, no, no....I mean the buildings!
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2013, 05:59:57 PM »

He wasn't speaking specifically of the horizon but more of the buildings being partially covered by the lake.

That is right.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2013, 11:09:44 PM »

The horizon is curving the wrong way.

No, it isn't. There is no noticeable curve on the horizon in this picture. The bright area around the Sun is giving you that impression. Try drawing a horizontal line on the horizon, that's how you check for curvature.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2013, 11:21:23 PM »

The horizon seems to curve in the wrong direction in the photo.

No, no, no....I mean the buildings!

It is hard to believe that a photo proves something when it obviously does not show the world as we see it.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2013, 01:52:21 PM »
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2013, 01:59:46 PM »
looks like a planar disc to me. thanks for sharing.

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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2013, 02:08:45 PM »

You can't see much of the horizon on your picture. Here is another for you
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2013, 02:21:16 PM »
looks like a planar disc to me. thanks for sharing.

It's from the ISS. There's a difference between flat and a very large oblate spheroid. To humans that walk the earth, it is flat. On a cosmological scale, the earth is round. Zetetics do not expand their mind enough to grasp this concept.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2013, 02:59:30 PM »

You can't see much of the horizon on your picture. Here is another for you
My point was that pictures considered credible FE pictures are from the same source as credible RE pictures.
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Re: Are there any pictures depicting a flat earth?
« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2013, 04:08:36 PM »

You can't see much of the horizon on your picture. Here is another for you
My point was that pictures considered credible FE pictures are from the same source as credible RE pictures.

Some things would have to be taken into consideration, but I can see your point.

FE claim the pictures depicting a curved horizon are a mock up, cgi, fake, while pictures depicting a flat horizon are totally true. For the same reason they could think these pictures are fake, but some how they just aren't able to realise that.

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