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sherlok11

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In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« on: January 20, 2012, 07:51:31 AM »
So are the images sent back from space a Satanic deception?

This is the biggest conspiracy of mankind's entire existence! It's a good thing we don't use those satellites to communicate on this here world-wide web...oh wait a minute...
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Rushy

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 07:53:44 AM »
Only James states any sort of belief in a "Satanic" conspiracy and hes just trollin'.


What this effectively means is you can't determine the real information from the garbage. Guess what? Lurk moar.
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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 08:15:59 AM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on January 20, 2012, 07:53:44 AM
Only James states any sort of belief in a "Satanic" conspiracy

So does Lord Wilmore. Lurk moar.
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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 08:18:06 AM »
Quote from: sherlok11 on January 20, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
So are the images sent back from space a Satanic deception?

This is the biggest conspiracy of mankind's entire existence! It's a good thing we don't use those satellites to communicate on this here world-wide web...oh wait a minute...
Yes it is a satanic deception.

It is only part of the total conspiracy.
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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 08:18:46 AM »
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on January 20, 2012, 07:53:44 AM
Only James states any sort of belief in a "Satanic" conspiracy

So does Lord Wilmore. Lurk moar.

Incorrect.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 08:31:23 AM »
The patches and logos NASA uses are undoubtedly oriented with with religion/paganism, if not Satanism. There is no denying that crucifixes and other symbols appear in the logos.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.msg744540#msg744540
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ClockTower

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 08:54:03 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 08:31:23 AM
The patches and logos NASA uses are undoubtedly oriented with with religion/paganism, if not Satanism. There is no denying that crucifixes and other symbols appear in the logos.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.msg744540#msg744540
Since that thread was not available to discussion or refutation, it's a horribly one-sided and as such worthless.
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Quote from: Tausami on March 13, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 08:57:27 AM »
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 08:31:23 AM
The patches and logos NASA uses are undoubtedly oriented with with religion/paganism, if not Satanism. There is no denying that crucifixes and other symbols appear in the logos.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.msg744540#msg744540
Since that thread was not available to discussion or refutation, it's a horribly one-sided and as such worthless.

No one is stopping you from discussing that thread on these forums.
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ClockTower

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 08:58:52 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 08:31:23 AM
The patches and logos NASA uses are undoubtedly oriented with with religion/paganism, if not Satanism. There is no denying that crucifixes and other symbols appear in the logos.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.msg744540#msg744540
Since that thread was not available to discussion or refutation, it's a horribly one-sided and as such worthless.

No one is stopping you from discussing that thread on these forums.
If you'd like to defend the thread, please open an appropriate topic. Otherwise, without an active FE champion there is no one to discuss that one-sided thread with.
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Quote from: Tausami on March 13, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 09:00:43 AM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on January 20, 2012, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on January 20, 2012, 07:53:44 AM
Only James states any sort of belief in a "Satanic" conspiracy

So does Lord Wilmore. Lurk moar.

Incorrect.

Lurk moar.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 09:01:51 AM »
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 08:58:52 AM
If you'd like to defend the thread, please open an appropriate topic. Otherwise, without an active FE champion there is no one to discuss that one-sided thread with.

The topic of Satanism/symbolism is the present topic of this thread. Why would I need to start another one to talk about this?
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 09:10:58 AM »
So you're volunteering to defend James' psychosis?
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 09:14:50 AM »
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
So you're volunteering to defend James' psychosis?

Religious imagery is clearly depicted in the patches.







How can this be interpreted as anything other than crucifix stars?
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ClockTower

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 09:18:22 AM »
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/19961119143115/http://www.sincity.com/penn-n-teller/pcc/wingding.html
This, however, is playing a nut's game - once you're crazy and know nothing about numbers, the chances of finding something psychotic and hateful in a scrabble factory explosion are hovering just around 100%".
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Quote from: Tausami on March 13, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 09:19:28 AM »
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/19961119143115/http://www.sincity.com/penn-n-teller/pcc/wingding.html
This, however, is playing a nut's game - once you're crazy and know nothing about numbers, the chances of finding something psychotic and hateful in a scrabble factory explosion are hovering just around 100%".

The stars are clearly intended to be crosses. Why would different artists draw the stars like that?

When people draw stars they make them look like this



or this:



Not like this:

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ClockTower

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 09:22:34 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
So you're volunteering to defend James' psychosis?

Religious imagery is clearly depicted in the patches.

How can this be interpreted as anything other than crucifix stars?
Yes. I interpret your seeing a 'crucifix' as 1) wrong and 2) neurotic. Since when does a star burst become a pointy-ended crucifix?

Are you saying the NASA is trying to let us know about the conspiracy?
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Quote from: Tausami on March 13, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards
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ClockTower

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 09:24:42 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 09:19:28 AM
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/19961119143115/http://www.sincity.com/penn-n-teller/pcc/wingding.html
This, however, is playing a nut's game - once you're crazy and know nothing about numbers, the chances of finding something psychotic and hateful in a scrabble factory explosion are hovering just around 100%".

The stars are clearly intended to be crosses. Why would different artists draw the stars like that?
1) Please tell us who these 'different' artists are. 2) Please tell us how you determined that pointy-ended objects are crucifixes. 3) Please tell us how you determined the intend of the artists.
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Quote from: Tausami on March 13, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 09:34:53 AM »
Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
So you're volunteering to defend James' psychosis?

Religious imagery is clearly depicted in the patches.

How can this be interpreted as anything other than crucifix stars?
Yes. I interpret your seeing a 'crucifix' as 1) wrong and 2) neurotic. Since when does a star burst become a pointy-ended crucifix?

Are you saying the NASA is trying to let us know about the conspiracy?

NASA is letting us know that its members have some sort of religious tie. The stars appearing as crucifixes is clearly intentional.

Quote from: ClockTower on January 20, 2012, 09:24:42 AM
1) Please tell us who these 'different' artists are. 2) Please tell us how you determined that pointy-ended objects are crucifixes. 3) Please tell us how you determined the intend of the artists.

1) Please use Google before asking me to waste my time for what is easy to find: http://genedorr.com/patches/Intro.html

2) I've seen a crucifix. I know what a crucifix looks like.

3) The intent is obvious to any child of five. Perhaps if it were common for stars to be drawn in that manner you would have an argument. But it's not common and you don't have an argument that the stars look like christian crosses by 'chance'.
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 09:45:43 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Perhaps if it were common for stars to be drawn in that manner you would have an argument. But it's not common and you don't have an argument that the stars look like christian crosses by 'chance'.

Okay.





Look at all those crucifixes. Or maybe they're just stars.

Oh and Tom, I thought you said they were Satanists? Satanists make a point of drawing their crucifixes upside-down, you know. There's an upside-down crucifix in the top right corner of the painting above. Is Johanna Bohoy a Satanist Tom? None of NASA's cruci-stars are upside-down.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2012, 09:50:04 AM »
Quote from: zarg on January 20, 2012, 09:45:43 AM
Look at all those crucifixes. Or maybe they're just stars.

The artist in the first one clearly intended to put religious imagery into the image. No one would draw a star as a huge christian cross in the sky without implying some kind of implies religious symbolism.

Disney does the same thing for its stars. They like to imply that they're a happy family-oriented christian organization.

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/star-laura-rispoli.html

Look what the image is tagged as:

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Tags: bethlehem paintings, holy paintings, star paintings, sky paintings, christmas paintings, bethlehem canvas prints, holy canvas prints, star canvas prints, sky canvas prints, christmas canvas prints
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markjo

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 10:02:35 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 08:31:23 AM
The patches and logos NASA uses are undoubtedly oriented with with religion/paganism, if not Satanism. There is no denying that crucifixes and other symbols appear in the logos.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.msg744540#msg744540

Utility poles.  Religious symbolism or form following function?
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 10:09:28 AM »
Turns out you might be right about the first image actually. It's supposed to be the star over Bethlehem.

I've seen many pictures like the second though. It has no religious basis. Yet the NASA-esque crucifixes are clearly visible. Do you have an explanation for those?
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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 10:12:40 AM »
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2012, 10:02:35 AM
Utility poles.  Religious symbolism or form following function?
http://www.freefoto.com/images/13/20/13_20_72---Electricity-Transformer-mounted-on-a-Utility-Pole_web.jpg

Stars don't look like crucifixes. Anyone who would draw a star as a crucifix is clearly trying to portray a crucifix. Unless they are extremely naive to symbolism they are deliberately inserting religious symbolism into their work.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if city planners were fully aware they they are putting up giant christian crosses everywhere and are fine with it. The telephone pole would function just as well if it looked like a big T.

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Turns out you might be right about the first image actually. It's supposed to be the star over Bethlehem.

I've seen many pictures like the second though. It has no religious basis. Yet the NASA-esque crucifixes are clearly visible. Do you have an explanation for those?

The artist of the second one, Johanna Bohoy, is also likely a religious person. Her "tribute" painting for 9/11 is a big christian cross that happened to be standing in the rubble.

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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2012, 10:13:45 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 09:50:04 AM
The artist of the second one, Johanna Bohoy, is also likely a religious person. Her "tribute" painting for 9/11 is a big christian cross that happened to be standing in the rubble.

Then why did she paint a Satanist crucifix in the top right? Her sky painting has nothing to do with religion. Prove otherwise. Or are you going to claim that Johanna is keeping it secret like NASA? And when are you going to make up your mind whether NASA is Christian or Satanist?
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2012, 10:15:54 AM »
More crucifixes:



I could do this all day. Are you prepared to claim that every single painting that renders stars in such a manner is religious symbolism?
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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM »
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I could do this all day. Are you prepared to claim that every single painting that renders stars in such a manner is religious symbolism?

You would have to be pretty naive if you paint a star looking like a crucifix and don't know what it is or what you're doing. At least some of these artists are trying to be ambiguous about it.

NASA is not ambiguous. ALL of the stars in those patches are crucifixes.

It's not a vague or ambiguous matter.

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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2012, 10:24:41 AM »
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2012, 10:28:42 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
You would have to be pretty naive if you paint a star looking like a crucifix and don't know what it is or what you're doing.

Wait a minute...

Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
...pretty naive if you paint a star looking like a crucifix...
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
...if you paint a star looking like...
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
...a star...
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star

What are you trying to tell us Tom?
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Tom Bishop

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2012, 10:30:37 AM »
Picking out things and random objects and saying "that looks like a crucifix" is not a valid debating style.

NASA took something which is not a crucifix and turned it into a crucifix.

If you can't see how the examples are completely and absolutely different and how one is intentional then you are a lost cause, sorry.
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zarg

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Re: In response to the thread "Challenge the Round Earth Model"
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2012, 10:31:21 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
At least some of these artists are trying to be ambiguous about it.

"Trying"? So you ARE saying that they all insert religious symbolism deliberately?
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