The Concave Earth Hypothesis

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The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« on: August 22, 2011, 09:27:08 PM »
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THE CONCAVE EARTH HYPOTHESIS


This hypothesis was first conceptualised in the Cellular Cosmogony of Cyrus R Teed, founder of the Koreshan Religion/Society established in 1886. He stated that the Earth is concave (curving upward), thus we are on the inside of a hollow Sphere. All of the stars and planets are illusions due to refraction of curving light in the atmosphere, of which itself is illusory in the general appearance of its shape. Only one half of the sun radiates light, it rotates on an axis at the centre of the hollow cell, and we only ever see a focalised projection of it through multiple layers of the atmosphere.




Accordingly this cosmology was revealed to Teed during a visionary experience in which a female angel showed him the "true" nature of the cosmos, where the heavens revolve inside the hollow cell of the earth.

Astrology of the Cellular Cosmogony


1.1 Inversion Geometry:

In 1981 Mostafa Abdelkader an Egyptian mathematician from Alexandria, revived and expanded upon Karl E Neupert's Geocosmos version of Cyrus' Ideas, from the year 1900. Unlike Cyrus' model which considers the heavenly bodies entirely as optical illusions, Neupert's model inverts the entire known cosmos into the concave model, stating that space shrinks / implodes via non-euclidean geometry, so as to fit an entire Copernican cosmos (C) into the comparatively finite boundary-envelope of the Geocosmos' (G) concave surface. In his paper that he submitted to the Australian science journal; Speculations in Science and Technology, in 1981 (which then gave a serious peer review of his full hypothesis in its 6th volume edition published in 1983), Abdelkader says:

“The enormous galaxies and other remote objects are mapped inside as microscopic objects, and our moon as by far the largest of the celestial objects, all of which revolve daily around the earth's axis. Straight rays of light are mapped as arcs of circles, so that all celestial phenomena appear to inside observers in G just as they do to outside observers in C. We next consider the hypothesis that, conversely, our actual universe is this finite G." (This idea entails the inversion of all known geo/astro physics.)

The main addition to Neupert's concept which Abdelkader addressed, is that light is eventually pulled toward the centre of the cosmos which shrinks inward. The arcs of light which travel toward the surface of the earth are absorbed, and those that are not continue travelling toward the centre of the cosmos as well as around it to the opposite side of the heavens than the sun. However they never illuminate the other side of the earth or its night sky because the wavelengths of light flow in accordance with the volume of space beyond the earth's surface, and are also subject to the black-hole like inertia of the cosmoses infinitesimal centre. Thus as they converge toward the opposite position of the heavens to where the sun is, they are simultaneously pulled in toward the centre.

Therefore the light which circles round to the opposite side of the heavens, never meets the sight of those who have the centre of the cosmos between them and the sun. Therefore an observer on the surface will experience night without a luminous sky, even though rays of light are actually traversing the space they look out into, this being because the rays are only in space and thus are never received directly into the eye.
 
(for those FES forum explorers who are limited in English terminology, “Geology” is the study of the shape of the Earth, its properties and in some sense its relation to the rest of the cosmos. Hence the name Geocosmos as in this model the Earth is the boundary of the cosmos)


Abdelkader's Concave Earth

 
Abdelkader devised an equation that suggests the phenomena belonging to the perception of the sky-dome and horizon line, are subject to optical illusion, supporting his statement that Light bends in wide arcs through space, rather than travelling in straight paths. As such when we believe we are looking at a luminous astrological object perpendicular to our line of sight, what we are seeing actually lies on the other end of a bent ray of light. Thus ones line of sight is really pointing at nothing, and their eyes are receiving an image of something that is at a position in the sky elsewhere to the direction they are truly looking.

This arcing nature of light therefore would attribute illusion to the perception of phenomena in the sky and space. However it is not just the light alone that produces this illusion, but also the magnetic field of the earth and gravity which causes the light to behave extraordinarily.
Double refraction and re-focalisiation of light was the explanation Teed offered for the sky-dome Illusion. Teed's model however theorised a stationary sun with which he attributed the bizare notion that it were really a focalsied point of light emanating from a rotating luminous double helix at the centre of the cosmos. Abdelkader's model on the other hand requires more elaboration as it entertains an orbiting sun rather than a stationary one.

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1.2 The Mechanics of Gravity/Levity (Earth's EMF) & The Propogation of Light

To fully comprehend the theory of how light behaves in the Geocosmos, one must entertain the notion that the Earth's magnetic field and Gravity are really opposite polarities of the same unified force. This force compounds on itself through the envelope of the Geocosm i.e. the spherical area around the outside of the Geocosmos (within the crust.)

In other words Gravity or Centripetal force as Teed believed it to be, radiates out from the centre of the cosmos and through the earth's concave crust where it then
 folds/compresses against the inside of the concave earth's outer boundary/envelope (below the crust) then, due to it being a continuously flowing force, it therefore flows back outward to the surface at double the frequency (as it has folded/compressed against itself) and becomes the Earth's Levic electromagnetic field EMF.

How this concept of Gravity/Levity is relevant to the behaviour of light in the Geocosmos is that as the light reaches its resonant threshold of the EMF it begins to compress/slow down with friction causing an inverted compression of its wavelength within ratio to the Earths EMF.

A way to help visualise this is to take the example of a blown up rubber glove and how one can push the gloves fingers into the inside of the blown up glove provided the air pressure isn't too high. However this analogy is only outlining the path of the light as in reality it is in constant flow, from both the sun, moon, planets, stars and any other astrological phenomena.

This means: that because one sees what's on the other end of the arcing rays of light, and that the path of light is also folding back on itself against the Earth's EMF, then focalising back down toward the earth before our eyes receive it, the optical information that our eyes receive of the EMF threshold/light resonance layer is therefore reversed. Similar to how the reflection of a spoon is upside down and slightly distorted depending on the angle one views it from.
This accounts for the unexplained phenomena (Dubbed the Moon Illusion) of why objects in the sky look larger on the horizon than they do directly overhead. It also explains why one instead sees the Sky-dome/horizon line as a concave dome-illusion rather than a convexly implied display of concentric atmosphere/void as one would expect it to appear.

Thus when one sees the sun cross below the horizon what it would actually be doing is moving up and around into the zone of the SP's influence where the circular paths of light progressively get pulled into the SP and hence day becomes night. Abdelkader emphatically points out that both his and Einstein's concepts of the properties of light are assumptions as no one has proven either view.

Substantial Evidence That Light Bends (video)


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1.3 The Optical Illusion of the Earth Ball in Space:

In the October 1983 issue, Omni Magazine inquired with H.S.M. Coxter, a maths professor of the University of Toronto , as to whether or not there was any way to prove we aren't living inside a hollow earth. Coxter responded saying he couldn't think of any, and being an expert on inversion geometry went on to say:

“A rocket flight, an eclipse, a Foucault pendulum a Coriolis effect – any observation we can make on the outside of the earth has an exact duplicate version inside. There would be no way to tell which was the truth."

The article continued to relay: “Just as the geometry of space inverts, so do all the laws of physics. Toward the centre of a hollow Earth, light slows down and everything shrinks -- atoms, astronauts, spaceships, and measuring rods. Light travels in circular paths, producing some weird (but lawful) optical effects. Astronauts on the moon looked back on what they thought was a blue sphere in the distance. Actually it was the inside of the earth's shell, seen through sight lines that flared like the bell of a trumpet, producing the illusion of a sphere. The optical distortion is something like the wide angle view through a fish-eye lens”.

The German NASA astronaut & physicist - Werner Von Braun, speaks of this convex spherical illusion of our planet in the (inner) outer space of the concave Earth in one of his papers regarding optical illusions in space. He explains the process by which a “photograph of the Earth ball” ("Convex Earth") occurs, a potentially illusory perception of which our arbitrary physical senses have lead us to believe.



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2.1 Phases of the Moon and Lunar/Solar Eclipses

The Following was harvested from:http://geocosmos.tripod.com/lunar_eclipse.htm

The sketch below shows a horizontal section through the geocosmos. One has to be aware, that in reality the earth envelopes a spherical space which means that any radiation goes in all directions. You can easily do that in your mind by making the drawing rotate around its vertical axis.

[This image is synonymous with the shape of a Torus Field]


The drawing shows the moon in its different phases. If the light hits the moon from the back, the side facing the earth is dark and we have a new moon. If the light hits the moon from the side we half a half moon. At a full moon it is radiated by light from all sides which then return to the celestial sphere.

The moon will reflect any light received back to the earth on certain curved paths, which have been shown earlier. This makes it possible that all the phases of the moon including the crescent can be seen.

Exactly opposite the sun is a funnel like night canal without any light, since it can not be reached by any light beams. Since all the curves of light are equally curved, the cross section of that canal is round. When the moon passes through it then we have a total lunar eclipse. If the moon only touches the canal a little, then we have a partial eclipse. The moon will then show a dark (light less) disk, which, according to the Copernican theory is interpreted as the shadow of the earth.
 
Usually the moon bypasses the night canal, since it does not orbit in the same plane as the sun, thus preventing a lunar eclipse and having a full moon instead. For the same reason we seldom see a solar eclipse. If the new moon would always pass in the direction of the sun, then we would have a solar eclipse any time we have a new moon. However, most the time the moon bypasses the sun so far north or south, that it does not cover the sun.

More details can be found in the book by Johannes Lang: "The Geocosmic Theory" (Not yet available in English.)
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 02:24:15 AM »
This is the Inverted Earth theory...here are the details, more fascinating than any SF novel/story:

http://www.justintimeadventures.com/pipermail/torg/1998-March/012724.html (shape of the cosm section)


Contrary to the general opinion, the Nazis believed from the very beginning in this theory (the inverted earth), AND NOT in the Hollow Earth hypothesis...the Hollow Earth has been used by various secret societies (Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Knights of Malta) to divert attention from the real debate, the shape of the surface of the earth...the principal work is the Hollow Earth by Raymond Bernard...

http://books.google.com/books?id=DoZhZ48Fxo4C&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=rugen+island+nazi+experiments+curvature+of+earth&source=bl&ots=b0wxJb7rEJ&sig=GovXb2NRMg3PFNIbxjdw89knldg&hl=en&ei=qNppTuvoN4Gj8QPwvdUe&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false (rugen island nazi curvature of the earth experiments)
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 03:58:27 AM »
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2014, 12:04:52 AM »
Does anyone have any thoughts on the polar openings ? Do they exist ? If they exist in the concave earth model then they would lead to "the outside". The polar openings are mainly referred to in literature that assume a convex earth where the polar openings connect to the inside of the earth. There is much literature that refer to civilisations living on the inside of this convex earth. Under the concave earth model would these civilisations now be living on "the outside" ??

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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 02:46:37 PM »
Why cant we see the infrared signature of the sun when its not pointed at us? Its the same problem the spotlight Sun has with flat earth.

Furthermore, explain earthquakes and volcanoes in a concave earth.
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2014, 07:16:18 PM »
There is a model that is able to predict all things that we see in the sky as well as things like gravity and the interior of the sun, and it does not require spacial bending, special size properties, or a massive global conspiracy.  The simplest explanation is usually the wright one, just sayin'.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2014, 08:13:55 AM »
Why cant we see the infrared signature of the sun when its not pointed at us? Its the same problem the spotlight Sun has with flat earth.

You misunderstand.  The sun is not a spotlight, it simply acts like a spotlight.  Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too. 

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2014, 09:09:19 AM »
Why cant we see the infrared signature of the sun when its not pointed at us? Its the same problem the spotlight Sun has with flat earth.

You misunderstand.  The sun is not a spotlight, it simply acts like a spotlight.  Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too.
But the sun does not just fade away, it sets below the horizon.  Don't try to tell me that light moves like a drunk mouse unless you have math to prove it.
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2014, 09:18:09 AM »
Why do I need math when you can see it with your own eyes?  You can see something, but if it gets farther away from you, then the air blocks the light.  I thought elementary students even knew this. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2014, 09:39:50 AM »
Why do I need math when you can see it with your own eyes?  You can see something, but if it gets farther away from you, then the air blocks the light.  I thought elementary students even knew this.
But that doesn't explain why the sun sets, which was my question.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2014, 09:42:33 AM »
Why do mountains fade into nothingness?  They disappear with distance, do they not? 

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2014, 09:59:48 AM »
Why do mountains fade into nothingness?  They disappear with distance, do they not?
Maintains do fade into the distance when there is fog but generally they sink below the horizon as you get further because of the curvature of the Earth.  How would that be possible if the Earth were flat?
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2014, 10:09:41 AM »
What about pictures of mountains fading when there is no fog? 

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2014, 10:48:58 AM »
What about pictures of mountains fading when there is no fog?
That happens when it's actually foggy, but not when there are clear skies.  You can see the sun, which we can both agree is further then visable mountains, so why can you see the sun if air blocks so much light?
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2014, 12:26:10 PM »
This seems like a nice clear day to me. 



Also, the sun is much higher than a mountain, and therefore, its light can travel further without being as impacted by higher pressure air like a mountain is. 

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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2014, 12:51:59 PM »
This seems like a nice clear day to me. 



Also, the sun is much higher than a mountain, and therefore, its light can travel further without being as impacted by higher pressure air like a mountain is.
But yet the sun never fades at all no matter where it is in the sky, and it actually sets below the horizon instead of fading away.  That seems like evidence that's strongly in favor of a round Earth.
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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2014, 08:55:00 AM »
Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too.

Erroneous.  Theoretically, light can travel an infinite distance.  We first have to define infinity—which we've yet to do in any practical sense.

But—as science has already proved—light can travel for multiple trillions of kilometres, as from distant stars.

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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2014, 12:11:07 PM »
Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too.

Erroneous.  Theoretically, light can travel an infinite distance.  We first have to define infinity—which we've yet to do in any practical sense.

But—as science has already proved—light can travel for multiple trillions of kilometres, as from distant stars.
Perhaps you simply read too fast and did not see the words through the air?

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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2014, 02:25:20 PM »
Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too.

Erroneous.  Theoretically, light can travel an infinite distance.  We first have to define infinity—which we've yet to do in any practical sense.

But—as science has already proved—light can travel for multiple trillions of kilometres, as from distant stars.
Perhaps you simply read too fast and did not see the words through the air?

Are you claiming that light can only travel a finite distance through air?

If so, can you please define that theoretical distance, ignoring any potential effects of smog/fog or rain, or pollen/dust?

As a starting point, would it be more likely to be 1,000km,  10,000km, or 1 million km?

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Re: The Concave Earth Hypothesis
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2014, 04:01:09 PM »
Light cannot travel infinitely through the air, and IR light is light, too.

Erroneous.  Theoretically, light can travel an infinite distance.  We first have to define infinity—which we've yet to do in any practical sense.

But—as science has already proved—light can travel for multiple trillions of kilometres, as from distant stars.
Perhaps you simply read too fast and did not see the words through the air?

Actually in principal light can travel infinitely through air.  Every x distance the light fades by y%, meaning that every time a given photon travels a certain distance there is a chanse that it will be blocked, but although it's infinitely unlikely that light will travel infinitely far through air it's theoretically possible.  What this means is that a long exposure shit would be able to reveal mountains that are further away if the Earth is flat.  Test it.
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