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Land Speed Record
« on: February 07, 2011, 07:16:46 AM »
This has traditionally been a 3 horse race, with the French surrendering very early on, as usual.

FRANCE UK USA
Date Record Holder Place MPH
1898 JEANTAUD (Gaston de Chasseloup- Laubat)  Acheres   39.24
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy)     Acheres   41.42
1899 JEANTAUD  (Gaston deChasseloup- Laubat)  Acheres    43.69
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy)      Acheres   49.92
1899 JEANTAUD  (Gaston deChasseloup- Laubat)  Acheres     57.60
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy)      Acheres   65.79
1902 SERPOLLET (L?on Serpollet)   Nice    75.06
1902  MORS (William K.Vanderbilt)   Ablis    76.08
1902  MORS (Henri Fournier)    Ablis    76.60
1902  MORS (Augieres)     Ablis    77.13
1903 GOBRON BRILLI?  (Arthur Duray)   Ostend    83.47
1903 GOBRON BRILLI?  (Arthur Duray)   Dourdan   84.73
1904 FORD  ARROW (Henry Ford)   Lake St. Clair    91.37
1904 MERCEDES (William K Vanderbilt)   Daytona   92.30
1904 GOBRON BRILLI? (Louis Rigolly)   Nice    94.78
1904 MERCEDES (Pierre de Caters)   Ostend    97.25
1904 GOBRON BRILLI? (Louis Rigolly)   Ostend    103.55
1904 DARRACQ (Paul Baras)    Ostend    104.52
1905  NAPIER (Arther E MacDonald)   Daytona   104.65
1905  DARRACQ (Victor H?mery)    Arles-Salon   109.65
1906 STANLEY (Fred Marriot)    Daytona   121.57
1909 BENZ (Victor H?mery)    Brooklands   125.95
1910 BENZ (Barney Oldfield)    Daytona   131.275
1911 BENZ (Bob Burman)     Daytona   141.37
1914 BENZ (L.G.Hornsted)    Brooklands   124.10
1919 PACKARD (Ralph de Palma)    Daytona   149.875
1920  DUESENBERG (Tommy Milton)   Daytona   156.03
1922 SUNBEAM (K.L. Guinness)    Brooklands   133.75
1924 DELAGE (R?ne Thomas)    Arpajon   143.31
1924  FIAT (Ernest Eldridge)    Arpajon   146.01
1924 SUNBEAM (Malcolm Campbell)   Pendine   146.16
1925 SUNBEAM (Malcolm Campbell)   Pendine   150.76
1926 SUNBEAM (Henry Segrave)   Southport   152.33
1926 BABS HIGHAM SPECIAL (Parry Thomas)  Pendine   169.30
1926 BABS HIGHAM SPECIAL (Parry Thomas)  Pendine   171.02
1927 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Pendine   174.883
1927 SUNBEAM (Henry Segrave)   Daytona   203.792
1928 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Daytona   206.956
1928 WHITE TRIPLEX (Ray Keech)   Daytona   207.552
1929 GOLDEN ARROW (Henry Segrave)    Daytona   231.446
1931 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Daytona   246.09
1932 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Daytona   253.97
1933 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Daytona   272.46
1935 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Daytona   276.82
1935 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell)   Bonneville   301.129
1937 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston)   Bonneville   312.00
1938 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston)   Bonneville   345.50
1938 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb)  Bonneville   350.20
1938 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston)   Bonneville   357.50
1939 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb)  Bonneville   369.70
1947 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb)  Bonneville   394.20
1963 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove)  Bonneville   407.45
1964 BLUEBIRD (Donald Campbell)   Lake Eyre   403.10
1964 WINGFOOT EXPRESS (Green)   Bonneville   413.20
1964 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons)   Bonneville   434.02
1964 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove)  Bonneville   468.72
1964 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove)  Bonneville   526.28
1964 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons)   Bonneville   536.71
1965 SPIRIT OF AMERICA. SONIC 1 (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville   555.483
1965 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons)   Bonneville   576.553
1965 GOLDENROD (Summers brothers)   Bonneville  409.277 (wheel driven )
2001 TURBINATOR (Don Vesco) 458.440 (wheel driven)
1965 SPIRIT OF AMERICA. SONIC 1 (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville   600.601
1970 THE BLUE FLAME (Gary Gabelich)   Bonneville   622.407
1983 THRUST 2 (Richard Noble)    Black Rock   633.468
1997 THRUST SSC (Andy Green)    Black Rock   714.144
1997 THRUST SSC (Andy Green)    Black Rock   763.035

The record is currently held by those engineering wizards, the Brits.
However the US are unhappy and so are building this ...

Its aim, to be a bit quicker and reach 808 mph.

But as with Thrust SCC, where humiliating the Americans is not enough so they went for the sound barrier, the Brits are going to try and heap more pain on the merkins.

They are going for the 1000 mph mark. They also have a cool logo.










World leaders in the brains department.

That is all.
EDIT: I should qualify that I wasn't just needlessly spouting off about how wonderful the British are again. It is topical. :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12383551
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Kira-SY

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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 07:42:30 AM »
They really worked hard on that logo.
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 08:20:41 AM »
What new technologies and ideas will going really fucking fast bring us?

Oh wait...nothing. It's just really fucking cool.
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM »
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM »
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
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Thork

Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
Yes, but the answer to that is 'the British'. We can strap a jet engine to a car better than anyone else on the planet. Others have tried. Most notably the Americans, but the British are just better at it.

Quote from: Hazbollah on February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
He wouldn't understand. Only the British are able to master this.

Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.

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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
Yes, but the answer to that is 'the British'. We can strap a jet engine to a car better than anyone else on the planet. Others have tried. Most notably the Americans, but the British are just better at it.

Quote from: Hazbollah on February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
He wouldn't understand. Only the British are able to master this.

Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.

I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery".  I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded. 
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM »
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM
Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.

I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery".  I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.  

Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 12:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP

Spirit of America team may have been well funded, but North American Eagle team is not.
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Re: Land Speed Record
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM »
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP

Spirit of America team may have been well funded, but North American Eagle team is not.
So what? You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful. I have shown you that the Brits managed to claim the last competition with less than a quarter of the budget. North American Eagle Team have yet to achieve anything lest we forget. I have a tiny budget for breaking the land speed record and my Renault is virtually unmodified. No one is taking my challenge seriously because I haven't yet put down a fast time. I will try again the next time I am on the M4. The point is despite the notable handicap of having a small budget the Brits triumphed last time. Who cares what the budget is? I think however the merkins will not be able to pull off the same trick. It reads quite grim for them

Quote from: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/features/article6915705.ece
The contrast between the two teams could not be greater. While the Bloodhound SSC (it stands for supersonic car) is the most advanced streamliner ever built and will cost around 6.3m GBP, Shadle has built his machine out of the rusty remains of a 1957 Lockheed F-104 Starfighter jet, bought for $25,000 (15,000 GBP at today's prices) from a scrapyard in 1998.

If I was a betting man ...

Anyway I would rather focus on the super achievements of the British, over the impending annihilation facing the US. Please note Bloodhound will still be around than half the cost of the failed Spirit of America.

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that?  ???
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 04:34:24 PM »
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that?  ???

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery".  I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 04:58:44 PM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that?  ???

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery".  I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded. 

I said that money is a factor.  I didn't say that it was the only factor.  After all, supersonic travel is expensive regardless of the vehicle.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM »
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:58:44 PM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery".  I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded. 

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I said that money is a factor.  I didn't say that it was the only factor. 
No, the other factors are cleverness and mastery. ::)

Stop trolling my thread and just admit the British are pretty awesome.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 05:55:27 PM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM
No, the other factors are cleverness and mastery. ::)

Actually, the most important factor is determination.   Don't worry, land speed records are made to be broken. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 06:06:31 PM »
Say it ....
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 07:25:41 PM »
It.

Now what?
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 08:04:50 PM »
I heartily support this fine display of British excellence.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2011, 01:15:11 AM »
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM
Stop trolling my thread and just admit the British are pretty awesome.

I would, but you just need to lose that "ew" accent.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2011, 05:05:59 AM »
Isn't this a great chance for someone to kill themself?  Yeh, go Britain.  ::)
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2011, 07:45:36 PM »
Question: do trains count?
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