Painting glaciers.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2010, 11:38:14 AM »
Being white and absorbing visual wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.

Fix'd.

Visual wavelengths being the ones that penetrate our atmosphere easily yet interact with small particles on a regular basis.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM »
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.

Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking?  Are you a wizard?

it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.

You are retarded. Infrared can't penetrate through cell walls easily, and is a very low energy carrier. As for "manufacturing a white pigment" that is irrelevant, it is the problem of reflecting all wavelengths of light while still absorbing some that is impossible.

You might as well be claiming a batter batted 1000 this year yet he struck out some of the time. Being white and absorbing wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
that's assuming that the only wavelengths are in the visible spectrum.
Lrn2ultraviolet light
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
« Last Edit: July 08, 2010, 12:21:27 AM by Thevoiceofreason »

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2010, 12:19:17 AM »
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.

Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking?  Are you a wizard?
Are you saying the image you posted doesn't show the same thing?
No, but  parsifal is claiming that it moves.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2010, 12:33:55 AM »
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

How could they grow if they didn't survive?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2010, 10:23:31 AM »
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.

Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking?  Are you a wizard?

it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.

You are retarded. Infrared can't penetrate through cell walls easily, and is a very low energy carrier. As for "manufacturing a white pigment" that is irrelevant, it is the problem of reflecting all wavelengths of light while still absorbing some that is impossible.

You might as well be claiming a batter batted 1000 this year yet he struck out some of the time. Being white and absorbing wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
that's assuming that the only wavelengths are in the visible spectrum.
Lrn2ultraviolet light
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

Ultraviolet light is not a good energy carrier because it doesn't interact regularly with macromolecules. This means that it would pass through the chlorophyll more often that it would hit it.

The visible spectrum consists of wavelengths of light that easily penetrate our atmosphere and can be readily absorbed by large macro molecules (light receptors in our eyes do something not dissimilar to what chlorophyll does). It can be assumed visible light is the best light for photosynthesis.

Also, plants don't grow without functioning chlorophyll.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM »
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2010, 04:36:07 PM »
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly

So because James, Tom and Ichi think something, it's true?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2010, 05:03:47 PM »
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly

So because James, Tom and Ichi think something, it's true?
no, but since you seem to be rather fond of zetetic meditations, I thought that it might be relevant, that your collegues found this most insightful observation

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2010, 05:29:32 PM »
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myco-heterotrophy
If you can't argue both sides, you trmndnseaud neither

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2010, 08:10:56 PM »
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myco-heterotrophy

That is awesome, but I guess with the large amount of fungus plant symbiosis at least a few occasions would require the plants getting their energy from the fungus.

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Re: Painting glaciers.
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2010, 12:03:23 AM »
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story

How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myco-heterotrophy

That is awesome, but I guess with the large amount of fungus plant symbiosis at least a few occasions would require the plants getting their energy from the fungus.
Indeed.  Its cool, but bound to happen.
If you can't argue both sides, you trmndnseaud neither