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June 23, 2010, 10:06:01 PM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 22, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 22, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 21, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on June 21, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 21, 2010, 09:48:31 AM
Also, a white chlorophyl would reflect all visible wavelengths. So it would absorb no energy.
Are you fucking serious, Galvani?
says the man who thinks burnt wood will move on its own to create optical illusions as a part of the conspiracy.
I'd say white pigment genes would be easier than the feat you posed
White pigment genes would be insanely easy. A chemical that absorbs certain wavelengths of light to move an electron along an electron transport chain yet emits all wavelengths equally is what is impossible.
Think before you post.
huh, I was saying how white pigment genes is a lot easier than what Parsifal once said: modifying wood so that when burnt, drawn in a grid of squares, separated by gray margins with white circles at the corners, the color black will spontaneously appear at the corners when the viewer is not looking at that specific location. like this image
Cool.
So you want to put white pigment in with the chlorophyl? That will work out amazingly, the pigment will reflect all the light, and the plant will die from lack of energy.
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June 23, 2010, 11:25:18 PM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Raist on June 23, 2010, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 22, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 22, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 21, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on June 21, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 21, 2010, 09:48:31 AM
Also, a white chlorophyl would reflect all visible wavelengths. So it would absorb no energy.
Are you fucking serious, Galvani?
says the man who thinks burnt wood will move on its own to create optical illusions as a part of the conspiracy.
I'd say white pigment genes would be easier than the feat you posed
White pigment genes would be insanely easy. A chemical that absorbs certain wavelengths of light to move an electron along an electron transport chain yet emits all wavelengths equally is what is impossible.
Think before you post.
huh, I was saying how white pigment genes is a lot easier than what Parsifal once said: modifying wood so that when burnt, drawn in a grid of squares, separated by gray margins with white circles at the corners, the color black will spontaneously appear at the corners when the viewer is not looking at that specific location. like this image
Cool.
So you want to put white pigment in with the chlorophyl? That will work out amazingly, the pigment will reflect all the light, and the plant will die from lack of energy.
I never said that it was practical or smart. I thought Parsifal was talking about the impossibility of your idea. but clearly the guy doesn't know anything about pigments because of they above.
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Quote from: Parsifal on June 09, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
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June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
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June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
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Quote from: Parsifal on June 09, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
North and south are not opposites.
June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
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June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.
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Quote from: Parsifal on June 09, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
North and south are not opposites.
June 27, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
Parsifal
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time.
Write harder.
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Quote from: Muphci on August 30, 2010, 02:56:27 PM
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June 29, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
Are you saying the image you posted doesn't show the same thing?
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June 29, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.
You are retarded. Infrared can't penetrate through cell walls easily, and is a very low energy carrier. As for "manufacturing a white pigment" that is irrelevant, it is the problem of reflecting all wavelengths of light while still absorbing some that is impossible.
You might as well be claiming a batter batted 1000 this year yet he struck out some of the time. Being white and absorbing wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
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June 29, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Raist on June 29, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Being white and absorbing
visual
wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
Fix'd.
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June 30, 2010, 11:38:14 AM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: General Disarray on June 29, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 29, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Being white and absorbing
visual
wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
Fix'd.
Visual wavelengths being the ones that penetrate our atmosphere easily yet interact with small particles on a regular basis.
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July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Raist on June 29, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.
You are retarded. Infrared can't penetrate through cell walls easily, and is a very low energy carrier. As for "manufacturing a white pigment" that is irrelevant, it is the problem of reflecting all wavelengths of light while still absorbing some that is impossible.
You might as well be claiming a batter batted 1000 this year yet he struck out some of the time. Being white and absorbing wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
that's assuming that the only wavelengths are in the visible spectrum.
Lrn2ultraviolet light
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
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Quote from: Parsifal on June 09, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
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July 08, 2010, 12:19:17 AM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: SupahLovah on June 29, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
Are you saying the image you posted doesn't show the same thing?
No, but parsifal is claiming that it moves.
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Quote from: Parsifal on June 09, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
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July 08, 2010, 12:33:55 AM
Parsifal
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
How could they grow if they didn't survive?
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July 08, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 29, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 27, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 26, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on June 26, 2010, 05:47:05 AM
Actually his idea is possible, white chlorophyl is not with out atmosphere.
are you serious? pigment that moves around with no energy source ad infinitum, that only disappears when you are looking at the dot? that means we could be looking at different parts of it, my spot wouldn't be dark for me, but it would for you. also remember the wood is BURNT. And it only does this if you arrange the ashes in a very specific pattern.
Still more likely than chlorophyl that is white.
It's impossible. One person can't view something as existing, while the other person can if they are both staring at the same time for an extended period of time. Also how would the pigment know where you were looking? Are you a wizard?
it could still absorb the UA and infared spectrum.
also it wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a white pigment.
You are retarded. Infrared can't penetrate through cell walls easily, and is a very low energy carrier. As for "manufacturing a white pigment" that is irrelevant, it is the problem of reflecting all wavelengths of light while still absorbing some that is impossible.
You might as well be claiming a batter batted 1000 this year yet he struck out some of the time. Being white and absorbing wavelengths are mutually exclusive, hence impossible.
that's assuming that the only wavelengths are in the visible spectrum.
Lrn2ultraviolet light
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
Ultraviolet light is not a good energy carrier because it doesn't interact regularly with macromolecules. This means that it would pass through the chlorophyll more often that it would hit it.
The visible spectrum consists of wavelengths of light that easily penetrate our atmosphere and can be readily absorbed by large macro molecules (light receptors in our eyes do something not dissimilar to what chlorophyll does). It can be assumed visible light is the best light for photosynthesis.
Also, plants don't grow without functioning chlorophyll.
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July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Parsifal on July 08, 2010, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
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North and south are not opposites.
July 08, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
So because James, Tom and Ichi think something, it's true?
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July 08, 2010, 05:03:47 PM
Thevoiceofreason
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Parsifal on July 08, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
So because James, Tom and Ichi think something, it's true?
no, but since you seem to be rather fond of zetetic meditations, I thought that it might be relevant, that your collegues found this most insightful observation
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July 08, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on July 08, 2010, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myco-heterotrophy
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July 08, 2010, 08:10:56 PM
Raist
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Re: Painting glaciers.
Quote from: John Davis on July 08, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on July 08, 2010, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on July 08, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
Also, I war arguing that forcing plants to grow white would be easier. now, if they survive, that is another story
How could they grow if they didn't survive?
Well seeing as James, Tom, and Ichi think plants don't need light, according to Zeteticism, they'd survive perfectly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myco-heterotrophy
That is awesome, but I guess with the large amount of fungus plant symbiosis at least a few occasions would require the plants getting their energy from the fungus.
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