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 Fact - In the state of TX you can carry a handgun in your vehicle, as long as it is completely concealed, without a permit. For all you military folk, this does not apply on base. Exercise your second amendment rights, and protect yourself. BTW I have a number for a good Concealed Handgun Class for TX if anyone wants it. By the end of the class you have everything you need and just have to mail your package in.

If the United States is invaded I'm moving to Texas.

In Michigan you can carry an unconcealed handgun without a permit.

I mean, the Handgun needs to be legal... but, yeah. You can carry a registered firearm out in the open so long as you follow the rules about staying away from schools and such.

Michigan is open carry?  Inside the city limits?

FACT: Texans are gun-crazed lunatics. Next...

Michigan is open carry?  Inside the city limits?

Michigan is a state silly. But yes. Their was just an open carry gathering at a park last summer. Cops were NOT happy about it. it's one of those laws they try to discourage us from using to our benefit.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/michigan-discussion-firearm-news/2792-open-carry-legal-michigan.html

Downtown Detroit must be a brutal place to be in at night.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on January 25, 2010, 04:56:58 AM

Michigan is open carry?  Inside the city limits?

Michigan is a state silly. But yes. Their was just an open carry gathering at a park last summer. Cops were NOT happy about it. it's one of those laws they try to discourage us from using to our benefit.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/michigan-discussion-firearm-news/2792-open-carry-legal-michigan.html

I know its a state, goofy.    Montana is open carry as well, you just can't do it inside any city limits.  I think Arizona may be the same way.  I didn't know about Michigan.

FACT: Texans are gun-crazed lunatics. Next...

Spoken like a true government oppressed person.  I feel sorry for you.

Downtown Detroit must be a brutal place to be in at night.

Dowtown Detroit at Night is nice. Its the rest of Detroit at night that sucks. But i dont go there.

My only concern with Detroit is where i work in the winter when its dark at 5:00 and im walking alone or with one other person in the lot. Otherwise, i just know where not to go. It's just like any other city. Most of the crime is black on black by the city dwellers.

Spoken like a true government oppressed person.  I feel sorry for you.

The only difference between us is that I know I'm the subject of an oppessive government.

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Spoken like a true government oppressed person.  I feel sorry for you.

The only difference between us is that I know I'm the subject of an oppessive government.

The difference between us is that I exercise the freedoms the are given to me.

I understand and respect the Second Amendment, but I don't get why carrying a gun without a permit is a good thing.  Wardogg, do you have to have a general firearm permit to have a gun in the first place in Texas, or can anyone just hide a gun in their car?

I understand and respect the Second Amendment, but I don't get why carrying a gun without a permit is a good thing.  Wardogg, do you have to have a general firearm permit to have a gun in the first place in Texas, or can anyone just hide a gun in their car?

It has to be a lawfully registered Firearm. Other than that, just carry it in accordance to law.

I personally love that michigan is an open carry state. I find it to be more of a deterrent than a CPL.

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Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on January 25, 2010, 04:56:58 AM

Michigan is open carry?  Inside the city limits?

Michigan is a state silly. But yes. Their was just an open carry gathering at a park last summer. Cops were NOT happy about it. it's one of those laws they try to discourage us from using to our benefit.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/michigan-discussion-firearm-news/2792-open-carry-legal-michigan.html

I know its a state, goofy.    Montana is open carry as well, you just can't do it inside any city limits.  I think Arizona may be the same way.  I didn't know about Michigan.

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on January 25, 2010, 05:57:02 AM

FACT: Texans are gun-crazed lunatics. Next...

Spoken like a true government oppressed person.  I feel sorry for you.

Open carry isn't illegal anywhere is it? I mean if you can possess a firearm you have to be able to transport it around and they prefer you do that in the open.

As a kid I used to walk through my town with my .22 to go target shoot in the country, the cops never said a word to me as I walked by.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on January 25, 2010, 06:09:23 AM

Quote from: theonlydann on January 25, 2010, 06:00:03 AM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on January 25, 2010, 04:56:58 AM

Michigan is open carry?  Inside the city limits?

Michigan is a state silly. But yes. Their was just an open carry gathering at a park last summer. Cops were NOT happy about it. it's one of those laws they try to discourage us from using to our benefit.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/michigan-discussion-firearm-news/2792-open-carry-legal-michigan.html

I know its a state, goofy.    Montana is open carry as well, you just can't do it inside any city limits.  I think Arizona may be the same way.  I didn't know about Michigan.

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on January 25, 2010, 05:57:02 AM

FACT: Texans are gun-crazed lunatics. Next...

Spoken like a true government oppressed person.  I feel sorry for you.

Open carry isn't illegal anywhere is it? I mean if you can possess a firearm you have to be able to transport it around and they prefer you do that in the open.

As a kid I used to walk through my town with my .22 to go target shoot in the country, the cops never said a word to me as I walked by.

Not if it's in a vehicle. And, i know some states have outlawed open carry. I just don't know which ones. Generally they would prefer you carry it in a locked container with ammo separate. Unlike open carry, which is putting your loaded gun in a holster and walking down the street with it.

Open carry isn't illegal anywhere is it? I mean if you can possess a firearm you have to be able to transport it around and they prefer you do that in the open.

As a kid I used to walk through my town with my .22 to go target shoot in the country, the cops never said a word to me as I walked by.

I think long guns and hand guns are often treated differently regarding laws?

Ah, I know in ohio you can't have a loaded gun in a car without a concealed carry permit. Separate locked containers and all that deal.

Downtown Detroit must be a brutal place to be in at night.

It isn't the person that went to the trouble of obtaining a weapons permit, being placed on a registry, buying a weapon, taking the proper safety training and earning the right to carry a weapon in the open that I would be worried about.

I would. Bat shit crazy people definitely can get guns. I personally know someone that is clearly insane that has a concealed carry permit.

I would. Bat shit crazy people definitely can get guns. I personally know someone that is clearly insane that has a concealed carry permit.

Still, I'd be more worried about the person that has no physical and documented link to the weapon who could dump it in the river and get another one than the person with a connection through the state.

Quote from: Raist on January 25, 2010, 08:36:38 AM

I would. Bat shit crazy people definitely can get guns. I personally know someone that is clearly insane that has a concealed carry permit.

Still, I'd be more worried about the person that has no physical and documented link to the weapon who could dump it in the river and get another one than the person with a connection through the state.

Lesson in Ghetto  survival.

Stay the fuck out. Once again, most crime in Detroit is black on black.

it's only dangerous if you live there, are doing dumb shit there, and yes, you can get unlucky and die, but it isnt what is causing a murder a day. Its the bolded part.

Fact - In the state of TX you can carry a handgun in your vehicle, as long as it is completely concealed, without a permit. For all you military folk, this does not apply on base. Exercise your second amendment rights, and protect yourself. BTW I have a number for a good Concealed Handgun Class for TX if anyone wants it. By the end of the class you have everything you need and just have to mail your package in.

There are many states in which you are allowed to do that.  As far as I know, Wyoming and Montana are both like that as well--Wyoming, at least, definitely allows carrying of unconcealed weapons in every case except in an establishment that serves alcohol.  In California, from what my uncle tells me (he is and ex Sheriff's depute in the Sacramento area of 30+ years), although there are restrictions on what weapons you can carry and there's a waiting period and all that, you can still carry an unconcealed weapon around with you.  Also you can buy any of them at 18.

In Wyoming you can buy just about anything without any restrictions, besides the federal restrictions on automatic weapons and military grade artillery.  I used to work the gun shows with my ex girlfriend in Cheyenne, and you could walk in and buy all sorts of guns and walk out with them without any kind of waiting or paperwork.  Only real catch I noticed in Wyoming is that you have to be 21 to buy handguns, however you only need to be 18 to buy any long barreled weapon (shotguns, rifles, etc.)--however you can possess any long barreled weapon at any age, you just have to be 18 to buy them.

Quote from: Raist on January 25, 2010, 08:36:38 AM

I would. Bat shit crazy people definitely can get guns. I personally know someone that is clearly insane that has a concealed carry permit.

Still, I'd be more worried about the person that has no physical and documented link to the weapon who could dump it in the river and get another one than the person with a connection through the state.

I'd be more worried about the psycho with 6 months to live.

Wyoming sounds alot like Texas' gun laws.  There is no permit to purchase here, no law for registration, but you cannot open carry a handgun.  You can for a long rifle.  And vehicle law just changed back in Sept of '07

I understand and respect the Second Amendment, but I don't get why carrying a gun without a permit is a good thing.  Wardogg, do you have to have a general firearm permit to have a gun in the first place in Texas, or can anyone just hide a gun in their car?

If you are qualified to actually purchase a gun from a dealer you can carry it in your vehicle concealed.  IE 21 yrs old, not a convicted felon.  Oh and you cannot have it in there if you are commiting a crime or are part of a street gang.  Those two are stated specifically in the law.

I am not alowed to get a CPL/CCW for like 5 more years.

Or is it 6?

In TX its 5 years for a Class A or B misdemeanor.

Well here its 8 years for my particular problem.

If you are qualified to actually purchase a gun from a dealer you can carry it in your vehicle concealed.  IE 21 yrs old, not a convicted felon.  Oh and you cannot have it in there if you are commiting a crime or are part of a street gang.  Those two are stated specifically in the law.

Makes sense.  A car is like your castle.

A castle that now has a cannon.

Gad, I once transported a small pile of guns all the way to Montana.  No telling how many laws I flouted along the way. I was a complete ignoramus.