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Proof
« on: October 31, 2009, 08:59:28 PM »
Give me your proof that the earth is flat... come on.... hit me.

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Sean

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Re: Proof
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 09:00:03 PM »
Prove the Earth isn't flat.
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Re: Proof
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 09:01:57 PM »
No you didnt understand.... prove to ME the earth is flat.  Your avoiding the subject.

Re: Proof
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 09:02:16 PM »
Look out your window. Looks flat to me. Anyone agree?

Re: Proof
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 09:03:05 PM »
With the size of the earth.  Yes it LOOKS flat.  Prove it is.

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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Proof
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2009, 09:03:48 PM »
Please read the forum-specific rules. Moved.


EDIT: Incredible response times. As I was posting my 'moved' post, one of the other mods (Jack or John I suspect) was moved it. If only Ambulances were this fast.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 09:12:03 PM by Lord Wilmore »
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Re: Proof
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2009, 09:04:16 PM »
lol.  what? can nobody prove this to ME?

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Sean

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Re: Proof
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 09:06:12 PM »
With the size of the earth.  Yes it LOOKS flat.  Prove it is.

It looks flat, so why should we assume otherwise? We should need to prove it is round.
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Re: Proof
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 09:08:55 PM »
One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

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Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Proof
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 09:34:00 PM »
The Earth appears flat from our local area. The burden of proof is on you to prove it is round.

Re: Proof
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 09:41:11 PM »
I believe along with 99% of the world that it(the world) is round. I have seen pictures and videos from space(yes they were government funded). I would like to know why you believe why you guys think that the world is flat. I know you don't care about going out and trying to prove to everyone that it is a FE, but still could you try to explain it to me with a little bit of real proof(this does not mean you looking out your window).

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Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Proof
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 09:51:38 PM »
The book Earth Not a Globe proves the earth is flat.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm

But still, it's not a matter of proving it's flat, it's a matter of proving anything to the contrary.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 10:06:40 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 10:28:02 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 10:30:32 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2009, 10:32:53 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

Everybody lies, I don't see you deeming your fellow FE'ers liars and not trusting them.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2009, 10:34:29 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

Everybody lies, I don't see you deeming your fellow FE'ers liars and not trusting them.

No FE'er has lied to me.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2009, 10:37:46 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

Everybody lies, I don't see you deeming your fellow FE'ers liars and not trusting them.

No FE'er has lied to me.

Name one lie that NASA has told you directly. You have a problem with government and as such a problem with NASA so you choose not to trust them. That's your problem but it doesn't give you the proof that the earth is flat, if you really cared you would try to actually find a way to prove it then making crap up off the top of your heads, instead all you want to do is argue which solves not a darn thing.  Am I wrong?

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2009, 10:45:16 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

Everybody lies, I don't see you deeming your fellow FE'ers liars and not trusting them.

No FE'er has lied to me.

Name one lie that NASA has told you directly.

They lied to me about going to the moon.

http://www.screencast.com/users/tbishop/folders/Jing/media/d5784ce2-2348-40a0-8f9b-0ddf37763b6e
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 10:48:07 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2009, 10:53:24 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence that the earth is a globe.

No no no, you mean you haven't seen any evidence you deem trust worthy.

NASA's a proven liar. Why should we trust anything they show us?

Everybody lies, I don't see you deeming your fellow FE'ers liars and not trusting them.

No FE'er has lied to me.

Name one lie that NASA has told you directly.

They lied to me about going to the moon.

http://www.screencast.com/users/tbishop/folders/Jing/media/d5784ce2-2348-40a0-8f9b-0ddf37763b6e

That proves what? Other than you have WAY too much time on your hands?

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2009, 10:57:44 PM »
That proves what? Other than you have WAY too much time on your hands?

It demonstrates that NASA did not send men to the moon.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2009, 11:00:42 PM »
That proves what? Other than you have WAY too much time on your hands?

It demonstrates that NASA did not send men to the moon.

You gonna keep repeating yourself or are you gonna explain?

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2009, 11:15:22 PM »
You gonna keep repeating yourself or are you gonna explain?

Explain what? That there are no stage lights on the surface of the moon?

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Proof
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2009, 11:24:02 PM »
You gonna keep repeating yourself or are you gonna explain?

Explain what? That there are no stage lights on the surface of the moon?

Where are such stage lights? All I see is an image of the sun that you played with in an image editor.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 11:25:50 PM by Christianrocker90 »

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markjo

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Re: Proof
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2009, 11:53:31 PM »
I haven't seen accepted any evidence that the earth is a globe.

Fixed.
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Re: Proof
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2009, 11:59:57 PM »
They lied to me about going to the moon.

http://www.screencast.com/users/tbishop/folders/Jing/media/d5784ce2-2348-40a0-8f9b-0ddf37763b6e

Tom, until you can show us a photo of what you believe the sun really looks like in a vacuum, you have no basis of comparison between a genuine and a fake picture of the sun in a vacuum.  Adjusting the levels on one photo is inconclusive without a proper reference to compare it to.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Proof
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2009, 12:13:18 AM »
It's certainly worth a raised eyebrow, is it not?
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: Proof
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2009, 01:51:57 AM »
It's certainly worth a raised eyebrow, is it not?

Why?  Again, without a control for comparison, you have no idea what Tom's "analysis" means.  It's all about context. 

That seems to be the primary FE'er debate strategy.  Take one bit of data, remove all context and then claim it as a win for FET while ignoring the bigger picture. 
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Proof
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2009, 03:50:55 AM »
Tom, until you can show us a photo of what you believe the sun really looks like in a vacuum, you have no basis of comparison between a genuine and a fake picture of the sun in a vacuum.

Why, are there stage lights in space?

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Re: Proof
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2009, 03:59:37 AM »
I love the way the flat guys trot out the "it looks flat" line as their reasoning, when in fact it doesn't. If it looked flat you would not see ships sinking over the horizon. They try to explain this with the [now disproved] bendy light theory, but the very fact that they accept the phenomenon is visible means the "it looks flat" statement is rendered untrue.
Anyone who says "it looks flat" must also hold the opinion "ships don't appear to sink over the horizon". Because if you think ships do sink over the horizon, you are admitting the world does not look flat.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.