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August 21, 2009, 09:10:12 AM
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Every refugee that can reach a boat or swim will head for an island, especially one so close to the shore. Zombies can drift/walk along the bottom, refugees will completely wipe out everything edible like a swarm of locusts and if you don't have the materials/ability to make your own equipment then you'll starve as soon as it breaks. The more desolate your haven, the safer you are.
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August 21, 2009, 09:31:37 AM
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My plan is a yatch in the local freshwater resevoir. With plenty of fish swimming below in crystal clear waters the situation would be liveable. I'd have a dinghy to swiftly return to shore if need be.

when you're on the move the best gear to wear would be full motorcycle riding leathers and helmet. I'd arm myself with one of these from my archive at work. A fascine knife (Except our one has a blade along it's broad side too.) nice and heavy with a broad, chunky blade for running battles or against several zombies and that nasty hook end for piercing the brains of individual zombies.
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August 21, 2009, 09:43:32 AM
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One problem with the island. If they did get there you couldn't touch them til they were on the island infecting it. Water is bulletproof. Something even 6 feet underwater is nearly impossible to hit with a bullet.
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August 21, 2009, 10:03:15 AM
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On Mythbusters they ended up saying about three feet of water on average, i think.
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August 21, 2009, 10:06:08 AM
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Meh, I'll believe them when they actually use their brains. Though in truth the percussion from a bullet missing you in water will still injure you pretty well.
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August 21, 2009, 10:21:07 AM
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But at 3 feet it becomes incredibly accurate anyway.  If it hits you, it'll hurt, but that's if.
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August 21, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
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But it doesn't need to hit you. Have you ever gone rifle fishing? The object isn't to hit the fish, you intentionally miss and allow the percussion of the bullet to kill the fish.

The mythbusters also confirmed that the percussion of a bullet can kill fish from a distance. They just lack the ability to logically connect these things.
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August 21, 2009, 11:02:46 AM
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This is another problem. People think that guns are the best weapons for zombies. They are not. The average person is probably going to use like 4-5 rounds per zombie. Highly inefficient. BLunt objects or blades with a long reach are your best bets. I'd go to the medieval times about 10 minutes away from me and pillage all the axes and swords I could carry (probably like...1).

Now people think that you're going to get bit from that close, but if you just wear some thick clothing you should decrease your chances of them breaking your skin by a lot. Now I don't know how strong zombies will be, but I know that human teeth probably can't get through leather or denim that easily.

Every refugee that can reach a boat or swim will head for an island, especially one so close to the shore. Zombies can drift/walk along the bottom, refugees will completely wipe out everything edible like a swarm of locusts and if you don't have the materials/ability to make your own equipment then you'll starve as soon as it breaks. The more desolate your haven, the safer you are.

VERY true. But you have to balance desolation with resources. A desert may ensure that no zombies are going to be there, but for the same reason, you shouldn't be there either.
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August 21, 2009, 11:14:01 AM
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A good bolt action rifle or crossbow is likely to serve you better than a sword, unless it breaks the skull and destroys the brain the zombie survives. Beheading a zombie will only cripple it, it can still bite. Leather, denim and neoprene are probably the best accessible materials, sharkmail's probably the best of the lot. A desert will not slow the zombie, it will only mean they can survive for far longer. It's possible to survive in any climate, we've been doing it for as long as we could reach the climates in question. We can build a structure that allows us to live in space in relative comfort, we can build a desert home.
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August 21, 2009, 11:18:37 AM
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This is another problem. People think that guns are the best weapons for zombies. They are not. The average person is probably going to use like 4-5 rounds per zombie. Highly inefficient. BLunt objects or blades with a long reach are your best bets. I'd go to the medieval times about 10 minutes away from me and pillage all the axes and swords I could carry (probably like...1).

Now people think that you're going to get bit from that close, but if you just wear some thick clothing you should decrease your chances of them breaking your skin by a lot. Now I don't know how strong zombies will be, but I know that human teeth probably can't get through leather or denim that easily.

Every refugee that can reach a boat or swim will head for an island, especially one so close to the shore. Zombies can drift/walk along the bottom, refugees will completely wipe out everything edible like a swarm of locusts and if you don't have the materials/ability to make your own equipment then you'll starve as soon as it breaks. The more desolate your haven, the safer you are.

VERY true. But you have to balance desolation with resources. A desert may ensure that no zombies are going to be there, but for the same reason, you shouldn't be there either.


The problem with blunt weapons is risk of infection increases as proximity increases. A gun is the best bet because it keeps them away from you.

A blunt weapon may kill them quicker but one bite and you are fucked.
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August 21, 2009, 11:24:09 AM
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This is another problem. People think that guns are the best weapons for zombies. They are not. The average person is probably going to use like 4-5 rounds per zombie. Highly inefficient. BLunt objects or blades with a long reach are your best bets. I'd go to the medieval times about 10 minutes away from me and pillage all the axes and swords I could carry (probably like...1).

Now people think that you're going to get bit from that close, but if you just wear some thick clothing you should decrease your chances of them breaking your skin by a lot. Now I don't know how strong zombies will be, but I know that human teeth probably can't get through leather or denim that easily.

Every refugee that can reach a boat or swim will head for an island, especially one so close to the shore. Zombies can drift/walk along the bottom, refugees will completely wipe out everything edible like a swarm of locusts and if you don't have the materials/ability to make your own equipment then you'll starve as soon as it breaks. The more desolate your haven, the safer you are.

VERY true. But you have to balance desolation with resources. A desert may ensure that no zombies are going to be there, but for the same reason, you shouldn't be there either.


The problem with blunt weapons is risk of infection increases as proximity increases. A gun is the best bet because it keeps them away from you.

A blunt weapon may kill them quicker but one bite and you are fucked.

He did mention that. And the need for ammo makes guns an unwise choice in an extended conflict.
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August 21, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
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Yeah, guns are too inefficient. I mean unless you're trained with a gun half of your shots are going to be in the ground and not in a zombie's face. Wearing thick, thick clothing decreases the risk of being bitten at close range. Of course if we're talking about an all out brawl with hundreds of zombies, it doesn't matter if you miss one because you're going to hit SOMETHING. That's where, the holy grail comes into play, the SHOTGUN.
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August 21, 2009, 11:38:05 AM
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The shotgun wouldn't really do that well at any range. You'd miss with most of the shot, and it would hardly cause the supreme brain damage necessary to kill a zombie.

I'd want a high powered rifle which would take the head clean off. As for there being hundreds, it wouldn't matter what blunt weapon you had, they would kill you anyways.
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August 21, 2009, 11:49:22 AM
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Well, let's not say hundreds, let's say tens. If you're anywhere near hundreds of zombies, you're screwed even if they don't even see you.

And I don't care if shotguns don't work like they do in video games, I want one. It'll make me feel secure.
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August 21, 2009, 11:51:27 AM
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From security comes confidence, from confidence bravado, and from bravado death. You're better off in a permanent state of shitting yourself, you stay on guard.
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August 21, 2009, 11:53:04 AM
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No, your best state of mind is realizing that you are already dead. Then you can function again.

As for the shotgun, I've shot quite a few, and they kick like sons of bitches, and then do an inaccurate pattern of damage. Your only chance of killing zombies with it is using a slug, and then your accuracy is shot.
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August 21, 2009, 11:57:40 AM
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This is another problem. People think that guns are the best weapons for zombies. They are not. The average person is probably going to use like 4-5 rounds per zombie. Highly inefficient. BLunt objects or blades with a long reach are your best bets. I'd go to the medieval times about 10 minutes away from me and pillage all the axes and swords I could carry (probably like...1).

Now people think that you're going to get bit from that close, but if you just wear some thick clothing you should decrease your chances of them breaking your skin by a lot. Now I don't know how strong zombies will be, but I know that human teeth probably can't get through leather or denim that easily.

Every refugee that can reach a boat or swim will head for an island, especially one so close to the shore. Zombies can drift/walk along the bottom, refugees will completely wipe out everything edible like a swarm of locusts and if you don't have the materials/ability to make your own equipment then you'll starve as soon as it breaks. The more desolate your haven, the safer you are.

VERY true. But you have to balance desolation with resources. A desert may ensure that no zombies are going to be there, but for the same reason, you shouldn't be there either.


The problem with blunt weapons is risk of infection increases as proximity increases. A gun is the best bet because it keeps them away from you.

A blunt weapon may kill them quicker but one bite and you are fucked.

hence, this is me in the post-zombie world. Though I'd be slightly fatter and be wearing black.

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August 21, 2009, 11:58:19 AM
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Guys I have been preparing myself for the inevitable zombie uprising since my uncle showed me 'resident evil' when I was 7. I have mentally gone through thousands of scenarios of what could happen and how I'll deal with it.

My state of mind won't be a problem.
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August 21, 2009, 11:58:53 AM
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hence, this is me in the post-zombie world. Though I'd be slightly fatter and be wearing black.



You, sir, are ready.

EDIT: Replace the paddle with a gun though. It's too heavy for one hand, you wouldn't be able to do any real damage.
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August 21, 2009, 12:06:25 PM
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Paddle? Paddle?! That, sir is a fine Willow Cricket Bat, I live in Britain so chances of me coming across a gun and enough ammo are slim to bupkiss, the cricket bat is a relatively light object to batter them out of the way if I need to make a break for it.
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