Sinking Ship experiment Results

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Sinking Ship experiment Results
« on: August 16, 2008, 08:37:03 PM »
Time of day ~10am Western Australia Time (GMT+8)?
Temp ~ 19celcius
Ground height ~ 1.5 metres including the beach and scope.
Elevation ~ I guess around 4m maybe 6
edit: Target is Rottnest Island from Scarborough Beach. Closest point ~18000m
Ships are unknown

Equipment setup





Showing the elevated roadway


Tanker at ground


Tanker at elevation


Lighthouse at ground


Lighthouse at elevation


Wind generator at ground


Wind generator at elevation


Yacht


Comms tower at ground


Comms tower at elevation


Ship 2 at ground


Ship 2 at elevation



Please discuss. I'd be interested in people's opinions.

Ski, I'd like to hear from you in particular.

I have some more shots of the same things as well. I took enough images to make a stitched mosaic of the island as well i think.
Oh and all the images are available in 3008x2000 pixel RAW format as well if you want them. I don't know where I can upload them though.

EDIT:
cropped image of ships taken with the D70s at 70mm. I didn't have my 300mm lens so it was this then up to the telescope


cropped image of the island
« Last Edit: June 09, 2009, 04:20:35 AM by dyno »

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narcberry

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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 08:43:56 PM »
Another victory for FE!!!

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 08:50:10 PM »
A victory for FE?
it just showed that the world is curved due to having to go to an elevation to see the whole thing. . . the ground pics showed that it disappears behind the horizon
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 08:50:45 PM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 09:04:25 PM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.
The only beding light does is over the curvature of the earth

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 09:05:56 PM »
Time of day ~10am Western Australia Time (GMT+8)?
Temp ~ 19celcius
Ground height ~ 1.5 metres including the beach and scope.
Elevation ~ I guess around 4m maybe 6

Equipment setup





Showing the elevated roadway


Tanker at ground


Tanker at elevation


Lighthouse at ground


Lighthouse at elevation


Wind generator at ground


Wind generator at elevation


Yacht


Comms tower at ground


Comms tower at elevation


Ship 2 at ground


Ship 2 at elevation



Please discuss. I'd be interested in peoples opinions.

Ski, I'd like to hear from you in particular.


Using your ETX-125 near a ocans beach isnt a good idea. Salt particles can get on your corrector plate and eat away at the coatings on the lens.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 09:07:21 PM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.
Now I thought You had performed this experiment yourself and got different results, so how can you say that light bends upwards?
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2008, 09:09:15 PM »
And Dyno, Bravo on completing the experiment.
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 09:13:34 PM »
I believe light would have significant issues bending that far at an elevation of 20-50metres above sea level.

How do these results compare with Rowbotham?

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2008, 09:16:48 PM »
Light doesnt bend. it is against the laws of physics which were basically written before anyone would even have the right mind to make a "conspiracy"

actually it was known before people even grasped the idea that the earth was round. . .

light can only turn after reflecting, even then its not turning, it is changing angles
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2008, 09:22:38 PM »
Why do people quoe Rowbotham as a god when his experiments have been dsproven. and light DOES ben Oka Nieba, it bends over the curve of the Earth. Also  light from other stars is bent by gravity of other stars as it travels to Earth, as  discovered by Einstein. light does bend, light easily bends as it has no mass.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2008, 09:31:29 PM »
Sorry for that. slip up, there are circumstances where it does bend. but it bends with the curve not upwards
"Bridge boy"

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2008, 09:45:53 PM »
yep. the Only way to bend light straight up or down is with a prism.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2008, 09:47:31 PM »
Sorry for that. slip up, there are circumstances where it does bend. but it bends with the curve not upwards
It can curve up, light will always look for the path of least resistance and since it is a hight pressure closer to ground light will tend to curve up
but it will curve in a very predictable manner so I doubt that that is the case here. and also if Rowbotham did indeed do these experiments then it would stand to show that he must have falsified the results either because the earth is round, or the light bent.
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 09:47:43 PM »
yep. the Only way to bend light straight up or down is with a prism.

thank you...

its like chess... i know their next move so ill answer for them

No particles in the atmosphere dont bend light up, it destorts it barely but in all random directions which is why it is blurry on the horizon
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2008, 09:49:41 PM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.

GIVE IT UP.  You have no proof for bending light. 
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 09:51:29 PM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.

GIVE IT UP.  You have no proof for bending light. 

Light bends, just now how FE'ers say it does. EInstein and others showed that light bends long ago.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 10:25:24 PM »
Nicely taken photographs there.  You took them all zoomed in as far as possible I am assuming.

The only thing that would make this experiment a little more complete would be if you included the zoomed-out shots as well, something to use as a control you know?
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 10:26:48 PM »
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GIVE IT UP.  You have no proof for bending light.

We can clearly wee more of the ship's hull when we increase our altitude. This is evidence that light bends upwards.

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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2008, 10:27:48 PM »
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GIVE IT UP.  You have no proof for bending light.

We can clearly wee more of the ship's hull when we increase our altitude. This is evidence that light bends upwards.
Or real physics. 
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2008, 10:33:35 PM »
The bending light light theory  (Bedford Levels Experiment) purportedly shows that in practice light curves upward from the ground at about 6 inches per mile traveled. Normally you would not notice this effect. Over long distances, light rays passing through the atmosphere bend gradually away from the earth and up into the sky, giving the appearance of a "horizon" beyond which objects are no longer visible.

So the theory goes that when looking down at the flat Earth we see what appears to be a round Earth because the light is being bent to make it appear that way.

This may actually be true. It doesn't matter because it has a negligible difference when you're looking at the earth from a satellite in geostationary orbit. GEOS satellites are around 22,000 to 25,000 miles above the Earth. The Earth's atmosphere is only about 25 miles thick. If light bends 6 inches for every mile that means the light passing from the earth to my eye will bend about 12.5 feet. I don't care which way the light is bending, 12.5 feet of offset on a 22,000 mile line of sight is going to do nothing.

Sure they say, but that is assuming you are looking straight down onto the Earth. At the edges, you are looking through more atmosphere.

Fine. So let's assume the atmosphere was 8,000 miles thick. That's the equivalent of the entire planet being made of atmosphere and this would still only calculate out to just under a mile (4,000 feet) of offset.
 
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2008, 10:53:58 PM »
hmm... why is it that every time i reply with solid evedence the earth is a sphere all the FE folks STFU???
"Bridge boy"

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2008, 12:14:50 AM »
That's what I'd like to know....

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2008, 01:06:33 AM »
still waiting...

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2008, 01:30:30 AM »
Nice experiment. But you should have taken some pics on ships even further away. All the ships where at horizon when at the beach.. It would be nice with pics of ships beyond the horizon, just the very tops showing at first. I know how it looks, Ive seen it many times myself, but I havent got the equipment for good photos.

The pics on islands, lighthouses etc gets the point across though.
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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2008, 01:36:43 AM »
This seems to be further evidence that light bends upwards. Thanks dyno.

This quote seems to be further evidence that Tom rather invents his own theories to fit his believes, than believing his own senses.

The signs of a lunatic.
Ooompa ooompa

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2008, 01:39:00 AM »
Yup.  If anyone ever goes to Southern California, visit Huntington Beach.  Catalina can be seen..about 28 miles away.  No matter how powerful the gear is that you use, you can't see Avalon Harbor.  Because it is below the horizon.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2008, 01:43:13 AM »
...Tanker at ground

I think the interesting part of this picture is the sail boat to the right of the bulker Progress II's bow.  According to ENaG, and other FE literature, the hull of the sail boat should have been brought back into view.  I can clearly see the sails and the magnification is great enough that I can make out the mast.  Since a structure as small as the mast is visible, I should be able to make out the hull since it is larger.

Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2008, 01:46:27 AM »
I agree...and given the clarity of the picture, atmospheric haze has to be ruled out.  Gotta be a curve..

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Re: Sinking Ship experiment Results
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2008, 02:16:57 AM »
Yup.  If anyone ever goes to Southern California, visit Huntington Beach.  Catalina can be seen..about 28 miles away.  No matter how powerful the gear is that you use, you can't see Avalon Harbor.  Because it is below the horizon.

Yes, because the light coming from it bends upwards.
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