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THE FE challenge
« on: September 15, 2011, 06:54:29 PM »
it doesn't matter how much you say the logic supports a fe logic say you can't except a claim until there is sufficient evidence where is the empirical evidence for a fe. A challenge to all you Fe'rs show me the tests that prove it.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 07:12:25 PM »
Please familiarize yourself with our FAQ.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 07:19:15 PM »
I have an nothing on there constitutes as valid experimental evidence chose your best and I will tell you why
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 07:38:19 PM »
I have no interest in debating the shape of the earth with someone who just stated the earth had to be round because lead shot and raindrops are round in one thread and misapplied a false dichotomy claim in another.
If you'd like to engage in puerile sophistry, Willmore, who has a great deal more patience than I, may be willing to try to teach you something.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 07:41:49 PM »
Poisoning the well!  Give me testable verifiable peer reviewed evidence that the earth is flat. Or can you not do that if so there is no reason to believe your claim
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 07:44:21 PM »
And as for your strawmen of my arguments I must say you seem to know little of constructing a logical argument
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 07:55:12 PM »
Quote from: logicalskeptic on September 15, 2011, 07:41:49 PM
Poisoning the well!  Give me testable verifiable peer reviewed evidence that the earth is flat. Or can you not do that if so there is no reason to believe your claim
I'm not poisoning the well; you've poisoned your own. My observation of your "scientific knowledge" is highly pertinent to the discussion at hand. You simply have no idea of what you are talking about. Several people, even fellow globularists tried to help you, but you have no interest in learning. You only want to jump up and down. I don't care if you believe the earth is a sphere; I'm not seeking converts.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 07:58:45 PM »
Haha why yes you were you were using previous strawmen of what I said in an attempt to invalidate what I am currently saying by definition poisoning the well
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:28 PM »
As well they were also irrelevant to the current thread I asked for evidence of a fe u simPly threw out previous things I had said refuting a fe which isn't evidence or relevant to evidence
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 08:14:30 PM »
Quote from: Ski on September 15, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
I have no interest in debating the shape of the earth with someone who just stated the earth had to be round because lead shot and raindrops are round in one thread and misapplied a false dichotomy claim in another.
If you'd like to engage in puerile sophistry, Willmore, who has a great deal more patience than I, may be willing to try to teach you something.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 08:26:22 PM »
And with that I must say since you have failed to produce any evidence of your claim that it is to be assumed irrational and false until such time as you provide evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof my friend and a flat earth is just that extraordinary. It would require extraordinary amounts of evidence that contradict our current best explanation in order to even be considered as true and scientific. You are irrational and unjustified in your beliefs and continue to poison society. The earth was flat until we proved it wrong just as the earth was the center of the universe and bleeding medicinal. You are wrong my friends wake up and see the truth before your eyes.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 08:29:20 PM »
Quote from: Ski on September 15, 2011, 07:55:12 PM
I don't care if you believe the earth is a sphere; I'm not seeking converts.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 08:36:32 PM »
You may not be but I am. Some may say that beliefs are outside the realm of questioning that someones beliefs are just beliefs. But our beliefs inform our actions and actions form our lives. Irrational beliefs can poison and distort the lives of people everyday. So yes I am seeking converts, and so should the rest of the sane world. This is our world too and we have a say in changing the ills of society.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2011, 12:33:02 AM »
Quote from: logicalskeptic on September 15, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
it doesn't matter how much you say the logic supports a fe logic say you can't except a claim until there is sufficient evidence where is the empirical evidence for a fe. A challenge to all you Fe'rs show me the tests that prove it.

I beg to differ, many people except many things without empirical evidence, its what is known as having a belief; in fact much of the foundations of science are based on beliefs that cannot be veritably proven.   
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 12:40:15 AM »
Quote from: logicalskeptic on September 15, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
it doesn't matter how much you say the logic supports a fe logic say you can't except a claim until there is sufficient evidence where is the empirical evidence for a fe. A challenge to all you Fe'rs show me the tests that prove it.
If you were familiar with site etiquette, we are in fact the believers here.  As stated above our reasons are in the FAQ and through searching the fora.  It is up to you to try present evidence that we may be wrong.  Judging by what you have said above I don't think you could.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 04:20:17 AM »
No it isn't my job that's a burden of proof shift.
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Re: THE FE challenge
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 04:49:00 AM »
And yes some people do believe without evidence. But this is not correctly applied skepticism and logic. Logic and skepticism say that you must have sufficient evidence for a claim and the one making the claim must provide the evidence for it. It is not accepted until disproven that's not how it works it's not accepted until proven.
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