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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 01:27:56 AM »
Isotopic dating: science or fiction?

http://www.atenizo.org/evolution-c14-kar.htm (must read)


Ice core dating: science or fiction?

http://www.detectingdesign.com/ancientice.html (must read)




http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/dating.html (must read)

http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~do_while/sage/v8i9f.htm (must read)



http://evolutionfacts.com/Ev-V1/1evlch07a.htm

http://evolutionfacts.com/Ev-V1/1evlch07b.htm

http://evolutionfacts.com/Appendix/a07.htm


Here is the dean of the faculty of mathematics/mechanics at the Moscow University, A. Fomenko, explaining to you how the radiodating CANNOT be used at all, EVEN FOR ARTIFACTS THOUGHT TO BE JUST 1000 (OR UNDER 1000 YEARS) YEARS OLD:

http://books.google.ro/books?id=YcjFAV4WZ9MC&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+science+or+fiction&cd=2&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

CHAPTER I, SECTIONS 14, 15, 16, 17, THEY START ON PAGE 71



Thermochronology/geochemical analysis errors:

http://www.tasc-creationscience.org/other/plaisted/www.cs.unc.edu/_plaisted/ce/dating2.html (exceptionally documented)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v4/n1/false-isochrons



http://grazian-archive.com/quantavolution/vol_03/chaos_creation_03.htm (collapsing tests of time)


FAINT YOUNG SUN PARADOX: a complete and devastating blow to all the dating methods and to the theory of evolution in particular:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1312927.html#msg1312927



The extraordinary demonstration and precise proofs that Copernicus was a fictional character invented at least after 1600 AD and the works attributed to him, were actually written by the historical figure known as Johannes Kepler:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1274485.html#msg1274485




We have already seen that the eruption of Vesuvius which destroyed both Pompeii and Herculaneum must have occurred at least after the year 1700 a.d.

Eusebius, Historia Ecclesiastica:

CHAPTER V.
The Last Siege of the Jews after Christ.

AFTER Nero had held the power thirteen years, and Galba and Otho had ruled a year and six months, Vespasian, who had become distinguished in the campaigns against the Jews, was proclaimed sovereign in Judea and received the title of Emperor from the armies there. Setting out immediately, therefore, for Rome, he entrusted the conduct of the war against the Jews to his son Titus.

But E. Johnson was able to prove that the Pauline Epistles were copied and developed from Eusebius' Historia Ecclesiastica, see:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=48357.msg1191856#msg1191856

Historia Ecclesiastica could not have been written before 1720 a.d., since it mentions both Vespasian and Titus:

Perhaps most important thing about the reign of Titus was his handling of the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius. Though the Jews claimed that the disaster that struck was God's vengeance against Rome, Titus' speedy and exhaustive efforts at relief likely went a long way towards winning him a permanent place in the hearts of the people.



Eusebius is an admirer of Josephus...

According to my mind Eusebius, who first cites this passage, was its author. Eusebius himself was a historian who admired Josephus very much and made a thorough study of him...
Eusebius mentions Plinius the Elder:

Eusebius tells us in the name of Tertullian that when Pliny the Younger, governor of Bithynia, wrote to Trajan asking for instructions about the Christian race...

But according to the official chronology, Pliny the Elder (uncle of Pliny the Younger) died in the year 79 AD, at Misenum, right next to mount Vesuvius...

http://www.christianorigins.com/zeitlin.html


Josephus mentions clearly the fact that the eruption which destroyed Pompeii occurred in the year 79 AD:

According to Josephus, the temple was destroyed in August of 70 CE and Vesuvius destroyed Pompeii in August of 79 CE.

 
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/71712928/DrusilladaughterofHerodAgrippaI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusilla_(daughter_of_Herod_Agrippa_I)

Their son perished together with his mother Drusilla, along with noted Roman historian Pliny the Elder plus most of the populations of Pompeii and Herculaneum in the AD 79 eruption of Mount Vesuvius.

Drusilla, eruption of Vesuvius mentioned by Josephus in Antiquities, xx 7.2

http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/index.htm#aoj (Jewish Antiquities by Josephus)

Chapter XX, section 7:

http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/ant-20.htm (Agrippa, Drusilla, eruption of Vesuvius)


Josephus was a fictional character invented at least after the year 1750 AD (see also http://www.revisedhistory.org/classical.htm )


Plutarch mentions the destruction of both Pompeii and Herculaneum in the year 79 a.d.:

http://www.lacma.org/eduprograms/EvesforEds/PompeiiandtheRomanVillaEssay.pdf

In the aftermath of the eruption, Greek historian and biographer Plutarch wrote: “Those who went there by daylight felt ignorance and uncertainty as to where Pompeii and Herculaneum had been situated.”

Isaac Newton mentions Plutarch:

http://www.pereplet.ru/gorm/fomenko/inewton.htm (A SHORT
CHRONICLE From the First Memory of things in Europe to the Conquest of Persia by Alexander the great, paragraf 3)


Georgius Syncellus based his Extract of Chronography on Historia Ecclesiastica and Chronicles written by "Eusebius"..
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06463a.htm

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2004/2004-10-27.html


The work of Eusebius written and invented at least after the year 1500 AD:

http://www.egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm


J. Kepler in the work De Vero Anno (chronology of antiquity), is following the works of Josephus:

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/Dating%20the%20Birth%20of%20Jesus%20of%20Nazareth.htm



http://books.google.ro/books?id=0r68pggBSbgC&pg=PA228&lpg=PA228&dq=kepler+de+vero+anno+chronology&source=bl&ots=UvGKnxjzKK&sig=eNKCwN2jvlP19kP8-zNo50nbr5g&hl=ro&ei=JIwqTvq0BcbDtAa2x8yGDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=kepler%20de%20vero%20anno%20chronology&f=false (pg. 228)


Letters between Galilei and Kepler:

http://www.catholicintl.com/noncatholicissues/personal_lives.htm


Letters between Galilei and F. Bacon (disciple of John Dee):

http://www.sirbacon.org/mcompeer2.htm


Galilei, Kepler, and Newton were fictional characters invented at least after 1750 AD...


This is why the new radical chronology is so important to the flat earth movement/theory: it proves immediately that Copernicus, Galilei and Kepler were fictional characters invented at least after 1750 AD.



Christoph Pfister, one of the very best european historians, has discovered that there was no human settlement prior to 1700 AD in Switzerland, and that all gothic/medieval buildings and all ancients documents pertaining to the period 500 AD - 1600 AD in this country were actually built/created in the 18th Century AD. He also found out that the printing press was invented around 1730 AD, and wrote the exceptional book Matrix of Ancient History:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg969919.html#msg969919




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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2012, 03:35:08 AM »
Like most posts about Levee/shandokhan, this has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.

I am therefore moving it to alternative science where it belongs.

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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2012, 05:45:41 AM »
What does any of this have to do with the shape of the Earth?

Oh, and I get called a permanoob?  ::)
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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2012, 09:02:06 AM »
What does any of this have to do with the shape of the Earth?

Oh, and I get called a permanoob?  ::)
RW is a noob with 39 posts.
You are a permanoob because you have over 2,000 posts.

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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2012, 10:42:59 AM »
What does any of this have to do with the shape of the Earth?

Oh, and I get called a permanoob?  ::)
RW is a noob with 39 posts.
You are a permanoob because you have over 2,000 posts.

Again, I have to go step by step with you:
I quoted YOUR post about relevance to the shape of the earth.
YOU should be aware that NO posts by Levee have any relevance to the shape of the earth, with over twelve thousand posts to your name. You have clearly lurked enuff.

 ::)
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Re: FE Thinking - Pompeian fresco's prove history conspiracy, a Levee classic
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2012, 11:21:50 AM »
What does any of this have to do with the shape of the Earth?

Oh, and I get called a permanoob?  ::)
RW is a noob with 39 posts.
You are a permanoob because you have over 2,000 posts.

Again, I have to go step by step with you:
I quoted YOUR post about relevance to the shape of the earth.
YOU should be aware that NO posts by Levee have any relevance to the shape of the earth, with over twelve thousand posts to your name. You have clearly lurked enuff.

 ::)
Ummmm... Levee has quite a few posts about the shape of the Earth.
I know, I've debated him on the subject a few times.

Also: this thread was started by RW to debate levee's assertion of incorrect history. That has nothing to do with debating the flat earth.
The post levee made was in the believer's section so and thus isn't moderated for Earth Shape content.