Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live

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I'm on my way to Welney to conduct my own Bedford Level Experiment. I'll be posting a detailed step by step account of it in a couple days but today I'll be blogging it from my phone. I'll have pictures and text updates as it progresses. It'll all be on my facebook page:

facebook.com/theflatearthsociety

Wish me luck!
« Last Edit: August 18, 2009, 05:45:31 AM by Daniel »

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 05:34:35 AM »
Good luck.
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 05:36:09 AM »
Good luck.
Indeed. We want some nice Daniel myspace poses too
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 05:56:42 AM »
Good luck Daniel!
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 06:28:45 AM »
Good luck Daniel.  Although there is one thing that I've been wondering about.  How many hours was Rowbotham in the water up to his neck while someone rowed out 6 miles?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 06:29:41 AM »
have fun.

I hope you get a line of sight with all the water plants growing there.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 06:49:05 AM »
They're all over at the side, it should be fine.
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 07:10:37 AM »
have fun.

I hope you get a line of sight with all the water plants growing there.

so do I. We left the main street bridge about 15 minutes ago because the bank of the canal was blocked off as private land and the edges of the canal were heavily covered with plants. Down at Welch's Dam now. Best I can do is stand on the dam but that's 6-7 feet above water level. May have to
improvise a bit

Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2009, 07:13:59 AM »
Preparing the excuses already for when the experiment fails to prove the earth is flat?

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 07:17:50 AM »
It wouldn't disprove FE, just the perspective effect theory.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2009, 07:20:05 AM »
Good luck!
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2009, 07:21:27 AM »
Daniel, just out of curiosity, what were you planning on using for a target at the other end?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 07:22:38 AM »
So, Douchebag, if it fails, it doesn't disprove FE, but if its a success, it proves FE?

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 07:30:06 AM »
To be fair, if it fails, then it would depend on why it failed.  Error analysis is just as vital as the actual collection of the data.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 07:43:22 AM »
So, Douchebag, if it fails, it doesn't disprove FE, but if its a success, it proves FE?

Pretty much. But whether it fails or succeeds the EA/perspective debate will be over.
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 07:46:45 AM »
So, Douchebag, if it fails, it doesn't disprove FE, but if its a success, it proves FE?

Pretty much. But whether it fails or succeeds the EA/perspective debate will be over.

LOL.

The strongest piece of proof FE claims to have, and if it works, it proves FE is correct!

But if it doesn't work out, it doesn't disprove it?

Are you listening to yourself?

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 08:10:44 AM »
There are two different theories, one which predicts either outcome. If perspective is proven, RET will also be totally disproved as well.
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 08:17:26 AM »
So this experiment will either prove the earth is flat, not round...


OR


the earth is flat, not round, but slightly different to the other flat and not round.

It's amazing this isn't on the news or something, i'm sure BBC would love to come down, take a few pics, little interview.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 08:30:00 AM »
You sound like you have a ground-breaking career in journalism ahead of you.


Anyway, Daniel put some pics up on facebook now- this is all very exciting! =)
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 08:33:14 AM »
Was that supposed to be funny or something?

I await the results, proving the earth is round, which will of course be tweaked every way possible to prove FE.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 08:46:28 AM »
Was that supposed to be funny or something?

I await the results, proving the earth is round, which will of course be tweaked every way possible to prove FE.

The results on an FE with EA will be identical to RE, and if they weren't and proved RE we, I at least, would accept RE as fact.
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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 01:50:11 PM »
I await the results, proving the earth is round, which will of course be tweaked every way possible to prove FE.
I don't wait any results but only some descriptions about Daniel doings. As far as I know he doesn't have any equipment with him there. At least it wasn't mentioned here.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 04:09:31 PM »
I await the results, proving the earth is round, which will of course be tweaked every way possible to prove FE.
I don't wait any results but only some descriptions about Daniel doings. As far as I know he doesn't have any equipment with him there. At least it wasn't mentioned here.

I would have posted in more detail today but my mobile's internet connection in the middle of nowhere was very unreliable.  Anyway, I did have some equipment with me (I uploaded some pictures on Facebook during the experiment).  I'd actually made a big marker pole with bright orange blocks but ended up not being able to use it because of how the canal is blocked off on one end and overrun with plants along pretty much the entirety of both shores.  So that didn't end up being used.  I did, however, have a reasonably powerful telescope and a digital SLR camera:



It's not professional surveying equipment by a long shot but it did the job reasonably well.  Looking through the telescope, I was able to see cars passing by on the bridge 6 miles away.  And the cars were elevated well above the surface of the canal -- far more than they would have been with the anticipated drop over the 6 miles due to the earth's supposed curvature..

I'll post a more detailed account of the experiment with illustrations and higher-quality images taken through the telescope in the next few days.  Then everyone can decide for themselves.


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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2009, 04:38:42 PM »
Any condoms floating past in the canal?

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2009, 05:05:16 PM »
Any condoms floating past in the canal?

None that I saw. There were plenty of flying ants, though.

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Re: Reconducting the Bedford Level Experiment.. and blogging it live
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2009, 05:06:23 PM »
Any condoms floating past in the canal?

None that I saw. There were plenty of flying ants, though.

I bet if there were any you'd be able to see them from six miles away.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 12:14:38 AM »
I would have posted in more detail today but my mobile's internet connection in the middle of nowhere was very unreliable.  Anyway, I did have some equipment with me (I uploaded some pictures on Facebook during the experiment). 
I guess I must have a facebook account to view these?
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 01:39:13 PM »

Anyway, Daniel put some pics up on facebook now- this is all very exciting! =)

Pictures are invalid evidence. Accept Daniel's pictures, you have to accept those from space that show The Earth Not A Disc.  :P

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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 01:43:59 PM »
Any diagrams or anything other than those few pictures?

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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 01:47:22 PM »
Any diagrams or anything other than those few pictures?

I'm working on that now.  There will be detailed diagrams and descriptions of the whole thing in the next couple of days.